WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.630 --> 00:00:15.750 John Compton: Where's everybody? 2 00:00:39.270 --> 00:00:40.560 John Compton: Where's everybody? 3 00:00:47.900 --> 00:00:48.880 John Compton: Aye. 4 00:01:07.210 --> 00:01:09.479 John Compton: well, Peter's supposedly here. 5 00:01:13.590 --> 00:01:16.909 John Compton: He's a non video he's connecting to audio. 6 00:01:19.100 --> 00:01:19.930 John Compton: Alright. 7 00:01:20.590 --> 00:01:21.980 John Compton: let's get this. 8 00:01:23.230 --> 00:01:24.200 John Compton: Can hear. 9 00:01:46.720 --> 00:01:48.759 Kathy Lehman: Are those your trees in the front yard. 10 00:01:49.260 --> 00:01:51.376 John Compton: Yeah, this is just the 11 00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:54.829 John Compton: practically. Now. Yeah. A few days ago. 12 00:01:54.830 --> 00:01:56.090 Kathy Lehman: They're beautiful. 13 00:01:56.090 --> 00:01:56.690 John Compton: Yeah. 14 00:01:57.460 --> 00:02:04.459 John Compton: yeah, every year I take this picture. I probably they don't look all that different year to year. But 15 00:02:05.160 --> 00:02:08.170 Kathy Lehman: You should show them one after the other, and see if it it. 16 00:02:08.690 --> 00:02:13.769 John Compton: Right movie, right? A movie through the years front yard through the years. 17 00:02:15.530 --> 00:02:17.220 John Compton: Yeah. Hi, Rob. 18 00:02:20.770 --> 00:02:22.719 John Compton: alright, what else do I need 19 00:02:23.010 --> 00:02:25.649 John Compton: transfer report? Thank you very much. 20 00:03:08.450 --> 00:03:09.880 John Compton: Hi, Christine. 21 00:03:10.460 --> 00:03:11.190 Christine Dibble: Hello! 22 00:03:34.390 --> 00:03:35.450 Peter Nagrod: Hey! Everybody. 23 00:03:37.700 --> 00:03:38.070 Kathy Lehman: Peter. 24 00:03:39.230 --> 00:03:43.089 Peter Nagrod: I don't think John's ever started the meeting earlier than 7 30. 25 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:46.739 Peter Nagrod: Well, since the meeting started. Well. 26 00:03:46.740 --> 00:03:48.339 John Compton: Well, we don't have a quorum. 27 00:03:48.340 --> 00:03:52.943 Peter Nagrod: Well, since the meeting started Monday. This is actually, you know, actually pretty late dude. 28 00:03:54.270 --> 00:03:57.179 John Compton: Oh, right, that's right, that's right. The agenda was. 29 00:03:57.180 --> 00:03:57.820 Peter Nagrod: I need a. 30 00:03:58.153 --> 00:03:58.820 John Compton: Put! Dash. 31 00:03:58.820 --> 00:04:00.180 Peter Nagrod: Monday, the sixteenth. 32 00:04:02.030 --> 00:04:06.919 Peter Nagrod: We screwed up the Irs because they are now totally confused of when tax day was. 33 00:04:08.820 --> 00:04:09.830 Peter Nagrod: All is in. 34 00:04:09.830 --> 00:04:12.150 John Compton: Yes, tax day was on 35 00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:14.039 John Compton: Tuesday, the fifteenth. 36 00:04:17.100 --> 00:04:21.249 Peter Nagrod: You can, I'll I'll ask you to come in and testify at my trial. Thank you. 37 00:04:23.789 --> 00:04:24.819 John Compton: Right? 38 00:04:26.420 --> 00:04:28.830 John Compton: Join? Chat. Okay? 39 00:04:31.523 --> 00:04:33.690 John Compton: What else? Go ahead. Here. 40 00:05:04.250 --> 00:05:05.280 Paula Puglisi: Hello! 41 00:05:05.790 --> 00:05:06.490 John Compton: Aye. 42 00:05:06.990 --> 00:05:07.910 Kathy Lehman: Hello! 43 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.119 Paula Puglisi: I'm looking to be inspired by new recipes. 44 00:05:13.210 --> 00:05:16.289 John Compton: New recipes for disaster or food. 45 00:05:17.150 --> 00:05:18.430 Paula Puglisi: New rest, of. 46 00:05:18.430 --> 00:05:19.110 John Compton: Okay. 47 00:05:19.110 --> 00:05:21.060 Paula Puglisi: Food. Good, of course. 48 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.740 Paula Puglisi: Food. The great escape. 49 00:05:23.980 --> 00:05:24.570 John Compton: Yep. 50 00:05:36.370 --> 00:05:37.429 Kathy Lehman: That's lovely. 51 00:05:40.750 --> 00:05:41.460 Kathy Lehman: Huh? 52 00:06:00.860 --> 00:06:01.520 John Compton: I remember 53 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:26.300 John Compton: well, where are the 70 people interested in the basic resolution recommendations? 54 00:06:28.350 --> 00:06:29.419 John Compton: There's one 55 00:06:30.540 --> 00:06:31.160 John Compton: do. 56 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.750 Kathy Lehman: They took one look at the agenda and ran away. 57 00:06:33.750 --> 00:06:35.099 John Compton: Well, I know. 58 00:06:38.910 --> 00:06:40.360 Kathy Lehman: It's that time. 59 00:07:08.250 --> 00:07:10.100 Peter Nagrod: So we're just missing Eva. 60 00:07:10.830 --> 00:07:11.580 Peter Nagrod: Right. 61 00:07:14.610 --> 00:07:16.129 Kathy Lehman: Barbara. Oh, there she is! 62 00:07:16.130 --> 00:07:16.959 Peter Nagrod: Efforts here. 63 00:07:21.590 --> 00:07:22.610 Kathy Lehman: Is Mary. 64 00:07:23.610 --> 00:07:23.950 Peter Nagrod: Yep. 65 00:07:23.950 --> 00:07:24.550 John Compton: Yep. 66 00:07:24.850 --> 00:07:25.439 John Compton: raise it. 67 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:26.020 Kathy Lehman: And I. 68 00:07:31.030 --> 00:07:34.000 Peter Nagrod: Kathy, I have an extra monitor you can have if you want. 69 00:07:36.320 --> 00:07:36.950 Kathy Lehman: But. 70 00:07:37.410 --> 00:07:38.970 Peter Nagrod: So you can actually see. 71 00:07:38.970 --> 00:07:42.469 Kathy Lehman: Oh, yeah, I can't see. No, I have one. I just didn't know I could do that. 72 00:07:42.730 --> 00:07:43.300 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 73 00:07:44.010 --> 00:07:45.690 Peter Nagrod: I'm trying to get rid of it. 74 00:07:53.830 --> 00:07:56.000 Peter Nagrod: Here she is, hey? You know. 75 00:07:57.620 --> 00:07:59.289 John Compton: What am I looking for? Here? 76 00:08:08.330 --> 00:08:09.880 John Compton: See what I have here. 77 00:08:29.300 --> 00:08:31.459 John Compton: We got a few people coming in here. 78 00:08:46.820 --> 00:08:51.610 Peter Nagrod: So, John, can you? Make this meeting end at 8 o'clock, so we can see the end of the cap skin. 79 00:08:53.390 --> 00:08:55.379 John Compton: I thought you said you had an extra monitor. 80 00:08:57.010 --> 00:08:58.500 Christine Dibble: On the zone. 81 00:09:02.380 --> 00:09:03.090 Kathy Lehman: Huh! 82 00:09:03.800 --> 00:09:04.680 John Compton: Right. 83 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.539 John Compton: Alright! Another minute or so. 84 00:09:11.300 --> 00:09:12.100 Peter Nagrod: Good. 85 00:09:51.170 --> 00:09:52.850 John Compton: And Dave. Okay. 86 00:09:56.610 --> 00:09:58.137 John Compton: alright, I guess it's 87 00:09:59.680 --> 00:10:03.730 John Compton: that time has come. So welcome everybody to the 88 00:10:03.800 --> 00:10:07.620 John Compton: April sixteenth meeting of the Town Council. 89 00:10:08.642 --> 00:10:11.597 John Compton: First item of a business is 90 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.229 John Compton: to approve the agenda. 91 00:10:15.670 --> 00:10:17.119 John Compton: if someone will move. 92 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.540 Peter Nagrod: No mo motion to approve the agenda. 93 00:10:20.180 --> 00:10:23.570 John Compton: Okay, thank you, Peter. Anybody else. Second, please. 94 00:10:24.920 --> 00:10:25.980 John Compton: I'll second. 95 00:10:27.040 --> 00:10:27.480 Kathy Lehman: Was that. 96 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.743 John Compton: I can do alright. You should see it on your screen. 97 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:31.820 Peter Nagrod: English. 98 00:10:32.670 --> 00:10:40.269 John Compton: it was MoD mildly modified from the first posting for one. The date is now correct. 99 00:10:41.650 --> 00:10:42.699 John Compton: For today. 100 00:10:44.920 --> 00:10:53.904 John Compton: I just. You know. I I claim I put it to see if anybody ever read the agenda. But I I I actually just screwed up 101 00:10:54.440 --> 00:11:04.940 John Compton: and it's otherwise. I think unchanged one of the appointments has been stripped from administrative matters from the original one. 102 00:11:05.568 --> 00:11:11.189 John Compton: If you're looking at the copy we're going to get. David Stok 103 00:11:11.350 --> 00:11:14.239 John Compton: is not David Stoak booer 104 00:11:14.670 --> 00:11:21.142 John Compton: and we. I did not get you all the minutes from March. 105 00:11:21.820 --> 00:11:25.059 John Compton: I'm sorry this is wrong. Good! 106 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:26.160 John Compton: Wow! 107 00:11:26.980 --> 00:11:27.810 John Compton: Brilliant! 108 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:32.679 John Compton: I did not get you the minutes from 109 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.156 John Compton: my for February 20, seventh 110 00:11:38.070 --> 00:11:39.490 John Compton: and 111 00:11:39.880 --> 00:11:42.170 John Compton: for March 20 fifth. 112 00:11:44.030 --> 00:11:46.140 John Compton: okay, so I'm trying to. 113 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:46.700 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 114 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.349 John Compton: Prepare this there, that 115 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.480 John Compton: this is the one we'll be doing. 116 00:11:52.590 --> 00:11:57.849 John Compton: Okay. Anybody else have any comments or suggestions for the agenda. 117 00:12:01.030 --> 00:12:06.109 John Compton: alright, and all in favor of approving the agenda. As now shown. 118 00:12:08.430 --> 00:12:10.030 John Compton: any opposed 119 00:12:10.210 --> 00:12:11.519 John Compton: Jen has proved 120 00:12:12.260 --> 00:12:13.040 John Compton: right. 121 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.749 John Compton: So, starting in at the top. 122 00:12:15.780 --> 00:12:25.020 John Compton: public appearances, do we have any public appearances by anyone on a matter that is not on the agenda. 123 00:12:28.630 --> 00:12:33.399 John Compton: Okay? If not, we'll move along. I can let Tom into the meeting 124 00:12:33.530 --> 00:12:34.495 John Compton: and 125 00:12:36.250 --> 00:12:39.939 John Compton: go on to the treasurer's report, so 126 00:12:39.970 --> 00:12:42.510 John Compton: I'll let Jane take it from here. 127 00:12:43.540 --> 00:12:44.679 John Compton: She will. 128 00:12:45.250 --> 00:12:52.180 Jean Moyer: I will. I don't have a lot of comments that we're not on the report itself. 129 00:12:52.640 --> 00:12:59.850 Jean Moyer: and I know we've got a packed agenda, so I don't want to spend a lot of time, but if I'm certainly open to any 130 00:12:59.950 --> 00:13:04.970 Jean Moyer: questions, revenue is doing well as usual. 131 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.830 Jean Moyer: So much of our revenue is tax based. So 132 00:13:09.890 --> 00:13:16.459 Jean Moyer: we don't have a lot of fluctuations there. And as is the norm, we are 133 00:13:17.415 --> 00:13:19.650 Jean Moyer: down in spending 134 00:13:19.800 --> 00:13:23.910 Jean Moyer: down versus the budget which is the norm. 135 00:13:25.660 --> 00:13:28.869 Jean Moyer: So we're well ahead for the year. 136 00:13:32.020 --> 00:13:35.611 Jean Moyer: we're doing quite well in interest, thanks to the 137 00:13:36.310 --> 00:13:43.449 Jean Moyer: market. I, the money that sits at the Sandy Spring Bank is in 2 different Cds. 138 00:13:43.640 --> 00:13:46.679 Jean Moyer: both at 4 something percent. 139 00:13:47.040 --> 00:13:48.412 Jean Moyer: and they are 140 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:58.900 Jean Moyer: both 15 and 17 month long Cds from what I understand, the interest rate market will be dropping in the coming year. 141 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:03.879 Jean Moyer: So I went for longer Cds to keep that 4% there. 142 00:14:07.420 --> 00:14:13.110 Jean Moyer: and that that's the the high point, really, that I think needs explaining. Out of revenue. 143 00:14:14.140 --> 00:14:16.330 Jean Moyer: With the expenses. 144 00:14:16.790 --> 00:14:19.760 Jean Moyer: There's there's certainly not 145 00:14:20.223 --> 00:14:31.339 Jean Moyer: a lot that needs explaining other than what's in the notes we have had in the last week, as most people know, some tree work had to be done 146 00:14:31.660 --> 00:14:41.789 Jean Moyer: so, I expect by year end the tree removal will be more over budget than was put in the 147 00:14:42.330 --> 00:14:44.290 Jean Moyer: year end projection. 148 00:14:44.430 --> 00:14:55.609 Jean Moyer: But there are other categories within that that department. So I think we'll be good at the at the bottom line. 149 00:14:59.160 --> 00:15:01.999 Jean Moyer: So that is the highlights of what I would. 150 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:03.080 John Compton: Question for Jane. 151 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:08.449 Jean Moyer: Yeah, I you know, I think we want to save more time for other topics. So I'm not gonna belabor this. 152 00:15:08.450 --> 00:15:08.960 Peter Nagrod: No. 153 00:15:16.580 --> 00:15:18.560 John Compton: Okay, any any questions. 154 00:15:18.560 --> 00:15:19.240 Peter Nagrod: No. 155 00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:26.917 John Compton: That case need a motion to accept the April. Well, the march? 156 00:15:28.880 --> 00:15:30.790 John Compton: yeah. Treasures report. 157 00:15:30.950 --> 00:15:32.460 Barbara: So moved. Barbara. 158 00:15:32.850 --> 00:15:33.780 Barbara: Okay. Yeah. 159 00:15:34.380 --> 00:15:35.210 Barbara: Second, by. 160 00:15:35.210 --> 00:15:35.680 marywarfield: Second. 161 00:15:35.680 --> 00:15:36.640 John Compton: All of them. 162 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:39.470 Kathy Lehman: But Mary. 163 00:15:39.470 --> 00:15:40.430 John Compton: I think. 164 00:15:40.615 --> 00:15:40.800 marywarfield: Yeah. 165 00:15:41.047 --> 00:15:42.779 John Compton: Beat you, Mary. Now you got it. 166 00:15:42.780 --> 00:15:43.994 marywarfield: Okay, who's Rob 167 00:15:45.580 --> 00:15:47.270 marywarfield: at a timer? There. 168 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:49.797 John Compton: Yeah, now, he just, you know. 169 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:50.740 marywarfield: Fine. 170 00:15:52.190 --> 00:15:54.819 John Compton: so okay, all in favor. 171 00:15:56.020 --> 00:15:58.580 John Compton: Raise your hands. Okay. Any opposed? 172 00:15:58.940 --> 00:16:00.046 John Compton: Alright. The 173 00:16:00.890 --> 00:16:03.850 John Compton: treasures report is accepted. 174 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.625 John Compton: So we go on to 175 00:16:07.930 --> 00:16:09.260 John Compton: the 176 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:10.570 John Compton: my report. 177 00:16:11.062 --> 00:16:17.120 John Compton: I didn't have any specific kudos probably because I just didn't know anything. 178 00:16:17.640 --> 00:16:20.270 John Compton: any anybody's major contributions. 179 00:16:20.540 --> 00:16:22.810 John Compton: If anybody else has anybody thing they want to. 180 00:16:22.810 --> 00:16:29.299 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I have. I have one author out there, and it's not specific. But I just want to say that Steve words 181 00:16:29.780 --> 00:16:55.919 Peter Nagrod: is under the radar because he does, you know, guide rj, but but but on his own time he is help, I know, putting up the nets at the best of courts is the most recent thing. But there's been a lot of maintenance type things that he's given us advice on, or he's helped throughout the year, and I just wanna you know, recognize him or John, have you kudo him for what he's done? His contributions to the town 182 00:16:56.170 --> 00:16:58.140 Peter Nagrod: as Steve works. Yeah. 183 00:16:59.020 --> 00:17:25.647 John Compton: Okay, no, it's it. Yeah, it's okay. It's a regular, a regular regular. Steve has really. Ever since he retired from you know as being a town employee is. Probably probably he. He's not doing the routine stuff, but he is stepping up for all sorts of smaller and even a few more larger 184 00:17:27.609 --> 00:17:28.179 John Compton: at 185 00:17:29.330 --> 00:17:32.639 John Compton: problems. And then things that have come up so we can't. 186 00:17:33.070 --> 00:17:40.543 John Compton: you know, you can't say it often enough when you have someone like that. You know he's he's he's still a great asset to the town. 187 00:17:40.820 --> 00:17:44.441 Peter Nagrod: And we can't take him for granted. Is, I guess what you're saying. 188 00:17:44.760 --> 00:17:45.880 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that's true. 189 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:46.550 John Compton: So 190 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:48.760 John Compton: right? 191 00:17:49.970 --> 00:17:52.850 John Compton: Okay, then. 192 00:17:54.180 --> 00:18:01.420 John Compton: let me continue. With the report. The first. The next item is the Gaithers rogue, old town shared. Use path 193 00:18:02.018 --> 00:18:10.779 John Compton: as everyone knows, they have been engaged in planning a shared use path from Old Town up to Washington Grove. 194 00:18:11.354 --> 00:18:22.955 John Compton: Where they have engaged us in discussing with their plans. And most recently. We got an update from Mark Kyle, who is the planner 195 00:18:23.610 --> 00:18:23.850 Christine Dibble: Me. 196 00:18:24.350 --> 00:18:26.350 John Compton: Involved in that project. 197 00:18:27.056 --> 00:18:35.203 John Compton: They are applied, or have just applied for a grant from the 198 00:18:37.501 --> 00:18:41.560 John Compton: Sha Maryland Department of transportation. 199 00:18:42.307 --> 00:19:04.300 John Compton: To continue planning and engineering studies on the project. As you know, the the importance of this to Washington Grove is that they are including in the project. They're not stopping at the Gatesburg boundary there, including the small segment, the small but very important segment from the commercial corner to Brown Street. 200 00:19:04.600 --> 00:19:07.130 John Compton: so I provided them a letter of support. 201 00:19:08.296 --> 00:19:22.340 John Compton: and montgomery County is cooperating as well, because Montgomery County is responsible for the intersection, so hopefully they'll get that those funds. And we moving along 202 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:28.820 John Compton: on on that the bath the bath shared. Use path on that side 203 00:19:29.638 --> 00:19:32.381 John Compton: alright whole bunch of announcements. 204 00:19:33.410 --> 00:19:41.820 John Compton: which seem to be appropriate here. The annual, like cleanup scheduled for Saturday, April twentieth. There's a rain date. 205 00:19:41.850 --> 00:19:49.150 John Compton: It's going to be again focused on the West Woods. All this is sponsored by the Woods Committee. 206 00:19:49.840 --> 00:20:07.100 John Compton: No. The Lake Committee is sponsoring the lake, you know the Woods Committee is sponsoring the spring. Woods cleanup where which is at the Westwoods. The lake hasn't changed. It's still in the West Woods also. 207 00:20:09.090 --> 00:20:21.349 John Compton: And the the Woods Committee spring clean up is on the 20 seventh it also is roughly around Arbor Day. I think arbor Day is the 20 fourth or the I mean the 20, sixth or fifth 208 00:20:23.253 --> 00:20:23.920 John Compton: So 209 00:20:24.450 --> 00:20:31.668 John Compton: dove dovetail with that, recognizing the importance of trees. 210 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:33.540 John Compton: I don't know. 211 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:47.119 John Compton: There dog park cleanup. The Dog Park committees scheduled to clean up for also for Saturday, April twenty-seventh. So there will be a bunch of people in the West Woods hopefully, a lot of A lot of us will be there. 212 00:20:49.360 --> 00:20:57.878 John Compton: Raysk and the Amory Grove community are co-sponsoring. The, I think it's the first of several 213 00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:06.410 John Compton: sessions. The joint community event. The first one will be in person in Emory Grove 214 00:21:06.650 --> 00:21:08.410 John Compton: on the 20. First. 215 00:21:08.450 --> 00:21:15.679 John Compton: where participants will. The the intention is, the participants will share stories 216 00:21:15.750 --> 00:21:21.200 John Compton: from their experiences. over in the past. 217 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:26.701 John Compton: and maybe current of course, on racial issues. 218 00:21:28.050 --> 00:21:35.600 John Compton: and the idea, of course, is to foster continuing cooperation and understanding. And this subsequent event. 219 00:21:35.810 --> 00:21:41.969 John Compton: I don't have those dates, but the next one will be here in Washington grove at the Women's Club. I believe. 220 00:21:42.450 --> 00:21:44.530 Christine Dibble: John. They're on the website on the homepage. 221 00:21:44.790 --> 00:21:47.909 John Compton: Yeah, yeah, of course, always will be in the Bulletin. 222 00:21:47.910 --> 00:22:03.799 Paula Puglisi: And there'll be posters up soon, and I just wanna clarify, though, and I'm sorry the to interrupt. But the audience will not be telling stories, but they will be listening and doing written comments and subsequent sessions. There'll be more audience participation. 223 00:22:03.800 --> 00:22:04.700 John Compton: Thank you. 224 00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:09.789 John Compton: Right. I'm only announcing the things in April. Those other things. 225 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:12.573 John Compton: Okay? And 226 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:25.154 John Compton: So 3 of our committees, the forestry, munification, sustainability, and the woods committees have us have are are sponsoring a 227 00:22:25.670 --> 00:22:30.099 John Compton: presentation by Master Gardener Janet, Hostedler. 228 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:33.490 John Compton: Hope the name is right. It's been spelled about 3 different ways. 229 00:22:33.490 --> 00:22:34.050 Peter Nagrod: Lee. 230 00:22:35.166 --> 00:22:36.960 John Compton: Various communications. 231 00:22:37.543 --> 00:22:43.680 John Compton: The title is there using locally native plants to solve common landscape challenges in Washington grow? 232 00:22:44.343 --> 00:22:48.580 John Compton: I'm sure the deer will be present at this discussion. 233 00:22:48.780 --> 00:22:53.710 John Compton: because they're always interested to know what so called gear proof 234 00:22:53.820 --> 00:22:56.349 John Compton: plannings are coming along. 235 00:22:58.310 --> 00:23:13.900 John Compton: So also on that day, and not listed here and remind I had just pick. I can't announce everything, but Peggy is throwing it into the chat, Peggy, Peggy Moore, that. There will be a meatless pot luck. 236 00:23:14.498 --> 00:23:20.229 John Compton: On the 20 eighth, starting at 6 pm. The first one of these was last year. 237 00:23:21.051 --> 00:23:24.119 John Compton: It apparently was a great success. 238 00:23:24.190 --> 00:23:29.060 John Compton: And so they're hoping to continue that and get more participation. 239 00:23:30.030 --> 00:23:31.309 John Compton: With that. 240 00:23:31.410 --> 00:23:34.970 John Compton: the I guess the bottom, the 241 00:23:35.340 --> 00:23:43.149 John Compton: the the relationship to sustainability is that the meat production is 242 00:23:44.190 --> 00:23:47.340 John Compton: accounts for quite a bit of the 243 00:23:48.310 --> 00:23:55.729 John Compton: methane gases and and and other things that are contributing 244 00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:57.153 John Compton: to our 245 00:23:57.790 --> 00:24:00.099 John Compton: our effects on the 246 00:24:00.210 --> 00:24:03.479 John Compton: climate and and and other aspects of 247 00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:06.669 Christine Dibble: Some water, too. 248 00:24:06.670 --> 00:24:07.340 John Compton: Feature. 249 00:24:07.340 --> 00:24:13.939 Christine Dibble: It takes it takes it takes like 100 gallons of water or something to make one hamburger padding. 250 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:19.939 John Compton: Yeah. So when they say, drink more water, they don't mean eat a hamburger. 251 00:24:23.470 --> 00:24:32.210 John Compton: Right? Okay, that's the end of my report. Everything else is part of the agenda pretty much. 252 00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:35.150 John Compton: okay. 253 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:39.608 John Compton: So we come on to administrative matters. 254 00:24:40.520 --> 00:24:46.940 John Compton: and at the top of that is, of course the annual meeting is is on May eleventh 255 00:24:47.857 --> 00:24:51.880 John Compton: and will be the next meeting that we've scheduled. 256 00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:53.739 John Compton: or the town 257 00:24:54.784 --> 00:24:59.460 John Compton: in the in in the last, ever since Covid with that meeting has been 258 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:16.300 John Compton: conducted virtually. So the Council needs to once again. Weigh in and decide. Are we going to do it again virtually, or go back to the Town Hall? I will point. I will comment that 259 00:25:17.008 --> 00:25:19.000 John Compton: given the state of 260 00:25:19.620 --> 00:25:28.469 John Compton: our technology. Capabilities having a hybrid meeting for the town meeting. 261 00:25:29.037 --> 00:25:34.740 John Compton: Really isn't feasible. We we would need to. We need to practice that 262 00:25:34.780 --> 00:25:37.180 John Compton: with the town Council before we would 263 00:25:37.590 --> 00:25:40.940 John Compton: extend that to. I would think I think the 264 00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:50.689 John Compton: the town meeting, or any other meeting, so I'd like to take a hybrid meeting off the table. It's either in person or virtual. 265 00:25:50.780 --> 00:25:53.650 John Compton: You may have a different opinion. So 266 00:25:55.310 --> 00:25:56.700 John Compton: What does everybody think. 267 00:25:58.620 --> 00:26:00.730 Peter Nagrod: I like an I would like an in person meeting. 268 00:26:01.980 --> 00:26:04.330 Christine Dibble: I would also like an in person meeting. 269 00:26:05.560 --> 00:26:11.739 Christine Dibble: I think, I think, especially if we continue to meet as a town council on zoom which 270 00:26:12.723 --> 00:26:19.220 Christine Dibble: I would support. I think it's nice once a year to meet face to face. 271 00:26:22.560 --> 00:26:23.389 Robert Gilmore: Yeah, I agree. 272 00:26:23.390 --> 00:26:33.249 marywarfield: The the only thing with that is there are still some people that are concerned about being in larger groups, and if you can't do hybrid, then that will definitely eliminate people who. 273 00:26:33.560 --> 00:26:36.589 marywarfield: you know, who would otherwise like to be there. 274 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.499 John Compton: Yeah, we we should have done a made a request 275 00:26:42.520 --> 00:26:46.860 John Compton: in the Bulletin, or maybe by grove, alert 276 00:26:48.690 --> 00:26:50.400 John Compton: to hear from people who 277 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:52.339 John Compton: would attend 278 00:26:53.050 --> 00:27:06.070 John Compton: wouldn't attend a town, a town meeting in person, but would virtually, because I know, Mary, I you know I I have a feeling you're right, but how many that is, and you know how many 279 00:27:06.100 --> 00:27:10.870 John Compton: of the actual participants virtually are in that 280 00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:13.820 John Compton: have that, you know. 281 00:27:14.853 --> 00:27:15.726 John Compton: Restriction. 282 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:18.450 John Compton: it was big. 283 00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:24.610 marywarfield: And in in per, in person. Events have been pretty well attended, I guess, or increasing attendance. 284 00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:25.580 Robert Gilmore: Yeah. 285 00:27:25.580 --> 00:27:27.830 marywarfield: Like the movie. So yeah. 286 00:27:27.830 --> 00:27:29.440 Robert Gilmore: Yeah, we have a lot of people. 287 00:27:30.080 --> 00:27:32.529 Robert Gilmore: a holiday show. There are a lot of people. 288 00:27:32.650 --> 00:27:34.210 Robert Gilmore: Few months ago. 289 00:27:34.560 --> 00:27:42.021 Robert Gilmore: John, do we have any numbers on how many people attended the past couple of years of 290 00:27:42.860 --> 00:27:45.979 Robert Gilmore: zoom town halls versus the last 291 00:27:46.010 --> 00:27:50.560 Robert Gilmore: couple in person town halls. I I do get the sense. 292 00:27:50.790 --> 00:27:59.800 Robert Gilmore: My my preference is to kind of restore normality and and have in person. But I do get the sense that it seemed like more people 293 00:27:59.850 --> 00:28:03.677 Robert Gilmore: may have attended town the the zoom town halls. 294 00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:06.279 Robert Gilmore: and and you know. 295 00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.390 Robert Gilmore: I think that's an important consideration. If we know. 296 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:10.200 Peter Nagrod: Who? 297 00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:32.479 Peter Nagrod: I think that's important. But our our town, you know, our history. We're a community and you know. I I spent I spent the last 4 years. My job teaching people over Zoom. And it is. You know, it isolates people. I mean, it's great. It's a great tool. It got us through, Covid. But I like what you said about getting back to normal, and I think that there's a real sense of 298 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:47.669 Peter Nagrod: the community when we all get together, which zoom doesn't do, and you know all of our but my experience within all of our events, that we've had, like the 1 50 at the event, which is a while ago, a year ago. They're all very well attended. 299 00:28:48.094 --> 00:28:51.010 Peter Nagrod: so I mean, I would really like to see this in person again. 300 00:28:51.030 --> 00:28:52.110 Peter Nagrod: But 301 00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:54.470 Peter Nagrod: you know, it's up to you guys. 302 00:28:55.950 --> 00:29:01.746 John Compton: I mean. But regarding attendance, just responding to to rob's 303 00:29:02.510 --> 00:29:03.304 John Compton: question. 304 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.210 John Compton: we. We have had 305 00:29:07.320 --> 00:29:10.880 John Compton: significantly more than a quorum every year. 306 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:18.030 John Compton: And if everyone can remember that far back there have been years where we've had to. 307 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:20.465 John Compton: beat the bushes 308 00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:37.380 John Compton: not not recently. That's unfair to, you know. In order to make sure that 50 50 voting residents were present. I don't necessarily expect that would happen, but if it does, we'll have a we'll be 309 00:29:38.570 --> 00:29:39.574 John Compton: challenged. 310 00:29:40.780 --> 00:29:41.850 John Compton: so 311 00:29:44.230 --> 00:29:48.520 John Compton: You know what we can. I mean, if you really want to get a 312 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.119 John Compton: the pulse of the town. 313 00:29:51.800 --> 00:29:54.130 John Compton: I can issue a grab, a larger. 314 00:29:54.790 --> 00:29:58.380 John Compton: and we can. We can 315 00:29:58.901 --> 00:30:01.869 John Compton: get a response. I I have no doubt 316 00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:08.440 John Compton: we can either just have people email. And you know, we we wouldn't get that many. I mean, we got 100 emails. It's easy to. 317 00:30:09.100 --> 00:30:12.388 John Compton: It's easy to Co. You know. 318 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:19.134 John Compton: correlate all all of those, or Christine, or whoever is an ace at these 319 00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:20.750 John Compton: at these 320 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.630 John Compton: polls, you know. 321 00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:25.469 Christine Dibble: No survey like survey, monkey. 322 00:30:25.470 --> 00:30:31.977 John Compton: Survey Monkey that would take care of the the thing we could do all of that 323 00:30:32.450 --> 00:30:37.679 John Compton: in time for the final announcement which the notice has to be given. 324 00:30:38.870 --> 00:30:42.379 John Compton: I've forgotten 10 days. 325 00:30:44.050 --> 00:30:46.580 Christine Dibble: I think that even if 326 00:30:46.670 --> 00:30:52.229 Christine Dibble: Covid had never happened, or you know, even if we're talking like 5 years from now, you're always going to have 327 00:30:52.440 --> 00:31:00.429 Christine Dibble: somebody who says, Either you know I'm immunocompromised, or there's some other reason I cannot attend the meeting in person. 328 00:31:00.580 --> 00:31:01.489 Christine Dibble: I mean, it's 329 00:31:01.870 --> 00:31:07.170 Christine Dibble: this seems to me to be an ongoing issue, that if 330 00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:16.100 Christine Dibble: if let's say we do a poll, and we find out that there are 5 people who say they'd like to attend, but they're not going to attend 331 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:22.400 Christine Dibble: at the meetings in person. What kind of accommodation do we give that? And that is 332 00:31:23.010 --> 00:31:27.976 Christine Dibble: true now, and it's true. Any year in the future, you know. 333 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:39.199 Christine Dibble: And there might have been people before in in town meetings before Covid, who felt like they didn't want to come because they didn't want to expose themselves to all the people in the room. 334 00:31:40.190 --> 00:31:43.560 Christine Dibble: To me this, this is not a Covid specific issue. 335 00:31:46.760 --> 00:32:10.969 John Compton: So the best. So, of course, the general solution is to find a way, you know, or or or set up our technology to have a hybrid meeting hybrid meaning, meaning, you know, the requirements are that anybody participating virtually would have to be able to hear everything that is said, and you know, and who's speaking. 336 00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:14.409 John Compton: and have an opportunity to contribute 337 00:32:15.560 --> 00:32:20.459 John Compton: as as well. And you know it. This isn't really rocket science. It's merely. 338 00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:25.220 Peter Nagrod: No, it's not. I mean, what? What if we? What if we done? We've been talking about this for a long time? 339 00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:26.239 John Compton: I know we have never. 340 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:31.479 Peter Nagrod: Everybody everybody's able to do with except us. Why don't we just bring somebody in and get it done? 341 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:44.730 John Compton: Well, okay. And on that score the Maryland the Montgomery municipal cable has has helped several towns set up hybrid meetings. Kensington, Garret Park 342 00:32:45.070 --> 00:33:07.829 John Compton: and somebody else. They record their meetings. They're available by Youtube. They are hybrid meetings. They have good have experience, and they could E. They've offered to help set it up, so if we were to commit to do that, and once again I would I would do it by starting with the Town Council to get that. Yeah, you know we got it. We can. We can. We can work it out with the council meetings. 343 00:33:08.263 --> 00:33:11.429 John Compton: Which means the Council would have to go back to in person. 344 00:33:11.530 --> 00:33:15.449 John Compton: and and everybody else can come or 345 00:33:15.760 --> 00:33:28.580 John Compton: use the hybrid system. So so maybe we should, you know, commit to doing that, and maybe set up, you know. Try and get our act together for the next town meeting, and this one we will do one or the other 346 00:33:29.304 --> 00:33:30.876 John Compton: and I guess 347 00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:43.290 John Compton: I mean, I think that's where we are. So maybe. Do we need to have a vote? Or do we have a consensus? So I've heard Peter, Rob, and Christine have have spoken out that they feel 348 00:33:43.785 --> 00:33:47.978 John Compton: they'd like to go and do it in person. 349 00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:54.280 John Compton: Mary has. Well, so we need to hear from Mary Ava and Barbara. 350 00:33:54.870 --> 00:34:20.470 Eva: Yeah, I just. I don't have a real strong opinion, because I never attended a town meeting in person, so I don't have anything, you know at all. My experience has been with Zoom Meeting, so I don't have anything to compare it to. You know I do like that. I can wear my pajama pants for Zoom Meetings, but that's not enough of a reason to keep it on, Zoom. So I I will go with whatever the majority wants to do. 351 00:34:22.690 --> 00:34:25.290 Barbara: Yeah, this is Barbara. I mean. 352 00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:29.379 Barbara: I I see Peter's point about, you know, meeting in person. But 353 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:46.209 Barbara: I I do re worry about excluding people, and some people who might not feel comfortable, really speaking up and say, Well, have the meeting on zoom cause of me, cause you know people don't like to do that, so I feel it's more inclusive to keep it on zoom. 354 00:34:46.670 --> 00:34:48.980 Barbara: so that would be my preference. 355 00:34:51.100 --> 00:34:57.910 marywarfield: And although it's an ongoing issue, I agree with you, Christine. I think it's much more. People are much more aware after Covid. 356 00:34:58.220 --> 00:34:58.980 Christine Dibble: Yeah, let's turn. 357 00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:08.125 marywarfield: Dangers are of being in large. You know large meetings that they would not have thought of before, not necessarily being scared of Covid, but just the other stuff. 358 00:35:08.430 --> 00:35:14.284 Paula Puglisi: It's not all. It's not access. Just because of Covid. There are other reasons. People don't come to. 359 00:35:14.610 --> 00:35:15.610 Christine Dibble: Exactly. Yeah. 360 00:35:15.610 --> 00:35:16.830 marywarfield: Other infectious diseases. 361 00:35:16.830 --> 00:35:18.039 Paula Puglisi: Well, not even in. 362 00:35:18.040 --> 00:35:19.339 Eva: Well, yeah, I mean. 363 00:35:19.615 --> 00:35:19.889 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. 364 00:35:19.890 --> 00:35:22.880 Eva: There's like childcare issues, things like, you know. 365 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:37.520 Paula Puglisi: No, no, I mean health issue, mobility, or whatever, or being it, you know, having the stamina and so until it can be hybrid. I'm sorry to speak that term, but I'm just glad that you're having this discussion about access. 366 00:35:37.700 --> 00:35:41.050 Paula Puglisi: because so until it can be hybrid, it seems like 367 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.610 Paula Puglisi: more people have access via zoom. 368 00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:49.450 John Compton: Right? 369 00:35:51.920 --> 00:36:03.036 John Compton: yeah. I see Jean has slipped into the chat which I I don't recommend as a way of making statements to to this meeting but that 370 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.439 John Compton: and that 371 00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:11.539 John Compton: because the meeting is in the evening and now in in the past, it is gone 372 00:36:11.860 --> 00:36:18.169 John Compton: a long, long time people are, at least when you're it's virtual. You have the ability to 373 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.200 John Compton: to leave, which 374 00:36:20.390 --> 00:36:22.590 John Compton: may not be a positive thing. 375 00:36:23.929 --> 00:36:35.509 John Compton: We always wait to vote on the tax rate till the end, and then we do need to have a quorum at that time. So you know, while people can leave we need. To be sure, there's there remains 376 00:36:35.530 --> 00:36:38.339 John Compton: the quorum when votes are taken. 377 00:36:38.340 --> 00:36:49.289 Jean Moyer: John. My point was mostly that if it's in person and it's going late, people would be more apt to leave early than they would if it was virtual 378 00:36:50.570 --> 00:36:51.720 Jean Moyer: that that was. 379 00:36:51.720 --> 00:37:16.470 John Compton: I actually think that happens. In my experience. Well, at least I haven't noticed an exit. But I mean, you may write some people, but some people may come knowing they can leave. You see, that's a yeah, it's whereas you could do the same thing that happened virtually. Oh, well, I'll listen in, and when I you know when I get tired, and I'll just tune out. 380 00:37:17.630 --> 00:37:23.750 John Compton: Okay, we, as always, we've beaten this to death. I'm sorry I didn't start this a month ago. We might have been able to 381 00:37:24.588 --> 00:37:31.290 John Compton: cobble together. Something that might at least you know, make possible 382 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.670 John Compton: some attendance, virtually 383 00:37:34.575 --> 00:37:39.930 John Compton: unless somebody else has a comment. Let's move to a vote looks like we have to take a vote on this. 384 00:37:41.380 --> 00:37:46.380 John Compton: so let's let's vote on whether or not 385 00:37:46.470 --> 00:37:47.679 John Compton: to hold the 386 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.769 John Compton: town meeting. Annual town meeting 387 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.260 John Compton: in person 388 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:53.410 John Compton: this year 389 00:37:53.440 --> 00:38:00.000 John Compton: you're voting on in person in favor is in person opposed is virtual, because that's the option. 390 00:38:01.250 --> 00:38:06.140 John Compton: Alright, all in favor of holding the meeting this year in person. 391 00:38:07.390 --> 00:38:15.729 John Compton: I see 3 are those opposed to holding it in person, therefore, in favor of virtual. 392 00:38:16.310 --> 00:38:17.719 John Compton: I see? 3. 393 00:38:18.200 --> 00:38:22.989 John Compton: Oh, boy, okay, so that means I get to vote to break this. 394 00:38:23.460 --> 00:38:23.900 Peter Nagrod: Ha! 395 00:38:25.510 --> 00:38:26.535 John Compton: yeah, 396 00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:31.540 John Compton: You know, I I think I'm gonna have to go with virtual 397 00:38:32.134 --> 00:38:34.430 John Compton: because we need to. 398 00:38:35.279 --> 00:38:40.829 John Compton: I think we need to, just, you know, start early for next year, and and 399 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:47.299 John Compton: once again prepare and do it in person. I think I said the same thing last year we didn't do it. 400 00:38:47.991 --> 00:38:50.750 John Compton: And here we are again. 401 00:38:50.850 --> 00:38:54.230 John Compton: But I I will say I think the virtual town meetings. 402 00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:02.950 John Compton: notwithstanding the loss of the community. Aspect from Peter is a hundred percent. Dan Rob's 100% correct 403 00:39:03.130 --> 00:39:08.419 John Compton: that we've we've we've lost that. But I think the participation has been substantial. 404 00:39:09.010 --> 00:39:17.290 John Compton: Everybody seems to you know, show up because it is partly because it's convenient and 405 00:39:17.672 --> 00:39:25.500 John Compton: I'm sure that will happen again this year. So I'm gonna break the tie in favor of virtual once again. 406 00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:26.840 John Compton: But 407 00:39:27.770 --> 00:39:32.279 John Compton: I I don't know who to throw this to, and maybe it's me I will try. And 408 00:39:32.947 --> 00:39:35.570 John Compton: what what I'm going to do 409 00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:47.319 John Compton: with the new Council. This is the old council. The new council is we'll we'll commit to to to doing at least one or more council meetings hybrid 410 00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:50.260 John Compton: in order to work out any kinks 411 00:39:50.300 --> 00:39:51.075 John Compton: in 412 00:39:51.870 --> 00:39:54.420 John Compton: and the technology to make that possible. 413 00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:58.975 John Compton: Alright, so 414 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:04.340 John Compton: That was a very good discussion, and you know it's a tough thing to 415 00:40:04.680 --> 00:40:05.880 John Compton: decide on. 416 00:40:05.890 --> 00:40:17.470 John Compton: Alright. So now we're on to review the procedures for the town election, and we have Nick Susan here, who is the spokesperson chairman of the Board of Supervisors of Elections? 417 00:40:18.135 --> 00:40:23.800 John Compton: So, Nick, if you're welcome I'd like you to just state. 418 00:40:23.850 --> 00:40:29.540 John Compton: you know, if there are any. Any new wrinkles. Remind everybody of what the drill is for the election. 419 00:40:30.730 --> 00:40:32.360 John Compton: and you have to unmute 420 00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:41.090 John Compton: you. There. 421 00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:42.810 Peter Nagrod: I see you. Oh, there he is! 422 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:44.650 John Compton: Yeah, he's there. He's just being. 423 00:40:44.650 --> 00:40:45.300 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 424 00:40:46.620 --> 00:40:48.939 John Compton: If you're trying to speak, Nick, you're muted. 425 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.320 John Compton: and 426 00:40:52.940 --> 00:40:54.149 John Compton: we can't see you. 427 00:40:56.240 --> 00:41:01.360 John Compton: Alright. Tell you what we'll we'll come back to Nick. I'll I'll I'll ping him 428 00:41:01.430 --> 00:41:04.931 John Compton: while we're move through the rest of these items. 429 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:07.325 John Compton: okay, 430 00:41:09.954 --> 00:41:20.200 John Compton: alright. The next item is I'd like to schedule the May I mean I can schedule it, but 5 of you will will. 431 00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:24.044 John Compton: Well, not 5 of you 4 of you will be back 432 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:32.410 John Compton: after the town after the election. I'd like to schedule the town meeting town meeting. Be a a May Council meeting. 433 00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:40.320 John Compton: and I'm looking at the calendar. So the course, the town meeting is on the eleventh 434 00:41:42.590 --> 00:41:50.360 John Compton: Part of the reason I'm want to do it tonight is because we need to announce the meeting, and if it's going to be on the thirteenth, which is the Monday following 435 00:41:50.540 --> 00:41:54.309 John Compton: the I. We can't do it. On the thirteenth I have to get sworn in 436 00:41:55.265 --> 00:41:58.120 John Compton: and that would leave me one day to get people. 437 00:41:58.120 --> 00:42:00.150 Peter Nagrod: What makes you think you're going to get elected. 438 00:42:00.656 --> 00:42:01.670 John Compton: You're right 439 00:42:02.279 --> 00:42:02.840 John Compton: right? 440 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:03.846 Peter Nagrod: Let's wait. 441 00:42:04.350 --> 00:42:06.080 John Compton: Is elected has to get. 442 00:42:06.080 --> 00:42:09.499 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, taking all the drama drama out of this. Nobody's gonna show up now. 443 00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:10.640 John Compton: Tell me. 444 00:42:11.350 --> 00:42:12.360 John Compton: Okay. 445 00:42:12.380 --> 00:42:15.789 John Compton: Point taken. Whoever is elected will have to get marked 446 00:42:16.405 --> 00:42:19.780 John Compton: so I'm gonna propose the twentieth Monday, the twentieth 447 00:42:21.710 --> 00:42:26.458 John Compton: which is the Monday, the second Monday following the the 448 00:42:27.870 --> 00:42:28.890 John Compton: town meeting 449 00:42:29.640 --> 00:42:31.250 John Compton: any objections? 450 00:42:33.090 --> 00:42:52.410 John Compton: Alright done so we'll we'll we are scheduling a town council meeting for May twentieth as as most of you know, that is, we all we do the organization of the of the Town Council, but in recent years. We have well, 2 things we do, the organization 451 00:42:52.550 --> 00:42:53.550 John Compton: of the 452 00:42:54.670 --> 00:43:01.690 John Compton: of the of the of the Council for the for the New year, and we also have to pass the ordinance which will be introduced 453 00:43:01.950 --> 00:43:08.300 John Compton: further on in tonight's meeting the ordinance adopting our tax rates. 454 00:43:08.630 --> 00:43:11.180 John Compton: and which is required by Maryland law. 455 00:43:11.470 --> 00:43:13.999 John Compton: So that's why we have to have this meeting. 456 00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:26.750 John Compton: For those things and other business. Which I can already tell you will likely will will certainly include any any hopefully will include. 457 00:43:26.900 --> 00:43:36.930 John Compton: Might have to wait till the June meeting. Road repair plans, finalizing road repair plans. Prior to the end of the fiscal year. 458 00:43:40.140 --> 00:43:41.670 John Compton: okay, so may twentieth 459 00:43:43.060 --> 00:43:49.773 John Compton: Alright. Next administrative matter. We put out our leaf collection 460 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:56.410 John Compton: Rfp, and got 2 responses. 461 00:43:56.640 --> 00:43:57.569 John Compton: So 462 00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:02.340 John Compton: we want to award a contract tonight. 463 00:44:02.370 --> 00:44:03.335 John Compton: And 464 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:09.221 John Compton: I I summarize that the the 2 bids we received. 465 00:44:09.730 --> 00:44:16.787 John Compton: I'm happy to say we got 2 bids, and I've just summarized them here we 466 00:44:18.150 --> 00:44:19.160 John Compton: We 467 00:44:19.780 --> 00:44:21.020 John Compton: RJ. 468 00:44:21.620 --> 00:44:24.057 John Compton: Again bid and 469 00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:28.949 John Compton: Their bid was 18,005, 50, 470 00:44:29.540 --> 00:44:34.136 John Compton: and green Earth came back again. They've been our lease collectors for 471 00:44:35.110 --> 00:44:38.950 John Compton: quite a few years now at 16 7 40. 472 00:44:40.620 --> 00:44:47.600 John Compton: So there are no wrinkles to this. You know the the contracts pretty well. 473 00:44:48.091 --> 00:44:54.389 John Compton: Pretty pretty much the same as it. The. We will be pretty much the same as it's been. 474 00:44:55.624 --> 00:44:58.001 John Compton: It is renewable for 475 00:44:59.940 --> 00:45:01.930 John Compton: 4 additional years. 476 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:04.250 John Compton: so 477 00:45:05.300 --> 00:45:09.750 John Compton: There you have it. Any any discussion of these bids or questions. 478 00:45:11.470 --> 00:45:13.269 Peter Nagrod: No, I I would just say that 479 00:45:13.290 --> 00:45:21.280 Peter Nagrod: working with Rj. Is a delight, and they do a great job. But Green Earth has been with us, as you said, for quite a while. 480 00:45:21.290 --> 00:45:26.125 Peter Nagrod: and I think they do a great job, and all the all their workers are very polite. 481 00:45:26.570 --> 00:45:30.035 Peter Nagrod: and I I feel I personally feel a sense of loyalty. 482 00:45:30.420 --> 00:45:33.910 Peter Nagrod: so what they've done over the years in my experience. 483 00:45:36.740 --> 00:45:38.950 John Compton: Okay. Anybody else have any 484 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:39.815 John Compton: comment. 485 00:45:41.820 --> 00:45:42.650 marywarfield: Agree. 486 00:45:45.560 --> 00:45:46.470 John Compton: Right and. 487 00:45:46.470 --> 00:45:51.720 Christine Dibble: So, John, we're not bound to take the lowest bid. 488 00:45:52.250 --> 00:45:52.570 Peter Nagrod: No. 489 00:45:52.570 --> 00:46:00.149 Christine Dibble: I assume we can. We can take, for example, you know, best value for the town. However, we define that. 490 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:01.030 John Compton: Yes. 491 00:46:01.765 --> 00:46:05.859 John Compton: we usually have our in our Rfps. That caveat 492 00:46:06.080 --> 00:46:17.749 John Compton: that you know there are. There are intangible or unspecific reasons. There might be a preference we'd have to be justified. I would never recommend taking a 493 00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:19.969 John Compton: a higher bid 494 00:46:21.710 --> 00:46:27.149 John Compton: unless there was some some defensible reason 495 00:46:27.410 --> 00:46:29.100 John Compton: to to do so. 496 00:46:30.030 --> 00:46:30.700 Peter Nagrod: And we. 497 00:46:30.700 --> 00:46:34.820 John Compton: Have done that fairly recently. We did it. Think I'm trying to remember. 498 00:46:34.820 --> 00:46:35.450 Christine Dibble: Right. 499 00:46:35.450 --> 00:46:41.210 John Compton: Since that was, and maybe it was the refuse collection, the previous contract, not the current one. 500 00:46:41.450 --> 00:46:56.308 John Compton: the one we just awarded. We we had that I will say that green earth Kathy can. You know, Kathy, get here. Here's the complaints about our you know service personnel like this, and. 501 00:46:56.700 --> 00:46:58.359 Kathy Lehman: They're less money this time. 502 00:46:58.680 --> 00:47:00.150 John Compton: Well, they're less money. I was just gonna. 503 00:47:00.150 --> 00:47:00.470 Kathy Lehman: To you. 504 00:47:00.470 --> 00:47:00.810 John Compton: Like to. 505 00:47:00.810 --> 00:47:01.830 Kathy Lehman: And cute thing. 506 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:10.949 John Compton: I wanna point out Peter's Peter's pretty spot on, and what what supports that is I know not this year. But last year 507 00:47:11.130 --> 00:47:24.889 John Compton: there were issues there were some residents who felt that they the leaf collection, was leaving, very, you know, too much leaves from from windrow pickup. 508 00:47:24.910 --> 00:47:32.909 John Compton: and we we discussed that with Green Earth, and they they improved their procedures, and I don't know of any complaints 509 00:47:33.150 --> 00:47:34.570 John Compton: from last fall 510 00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:45.265 John Compton: of that kind. So that speaks to them being responsive. And you know, basically doing a a good job around town. Okay, we don't need to belabor this. 511 00:47:46.817 --> 00:47:51.190 John Compton: it's been proposed. We accept the low bid all in favor 512 00:47:52.630 --> 00:47:54.109 John Compton: any post. 513 00:47:54.450 --> 00:47:57.680 John Compton: Alright, so we've ordered a contract to Green Earth. 514 00:47:58.270 --> 00:48:03.440 Jean Moyer: John, this is a quick question. Would you want the budget adjusted? Accordingly? 515 00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:04.620 John Compton: Yes. 516 00:48:04.810 --> 00:48:05.480 Jean Moyer: Okay. 517 00:48:05.600 --> 00:48:08.630 Jean Moyer: that was 7, 16, 7, 50. 518 00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:09.670 John Compton: Oh, yeah, I just. 519 00:48:09.670 --> 00:48:10.270 Kathy Lehman: Yeah. 520 00:48:10.270 --> 00:48:12.480 John Compton: Of course. 16, 7, 40, 521 00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:13.720 John Compton: 7. 522 00:48:14.330 --> 00:48:16.300 Jean Moyer: I mean 7, 40 got it? 523 00:48:18.350 --> 00:48:21.250 John Compton: Yeah, I truncated the sense off of that. 524 00:48:21.250 --> 00:48:22.876 Jean Moyer: That's fine! 525 00:48:24.307 --> 00:48:26.159 John Compton: Now. Alrighty. 526 00:48:29.300 --> 00:48:37.370 John Compton: okay. So my next item on administrative matters. There were, was a suggestion made. 527 00:48:37.420 --> 00:48:43.096 John Compton: Well, first of all, there was an incident or 2 that that rose to the level of 528 00:48:43.610 --> 00:48:48.082 John Compton: of some discussion among people in the 529 00:48:49.242 --> 00:48:54.197 John Compton: who were aware of it about the about tennis court. 530 00:48:54.760 --> 00:49:01.282 John Compton: The dogs on the tennis court. I think this particular one was, or maybe it was roller 531 00:49:02.950 --> 00:49:04.060 John Compton: skateboarding 532 00:49:04.742 --> 00:49:14.560 John Compton: on the tennis on the on the hard service tennis court. And so as these things, you know the the the idea that 533 00:49:15.565 --> 00:49:34.590 John Compton: this activity is prohibited, and that this can damage the tennis courts. And we have posted that. Things are prohibited. The idea is. Well, maybe once again, maybe we should lock the tennis courts. 534 00:49:35.406 --> 00:49:42.920 John Compton: To prevent just just advantageous, you know. Use for things that shouldn't be done 535 00:49:43.530 --> 00:50:04.153 John Compton: alright, so is me. So Mered Meredith was part of this discussion. She's here, but I don't necessarily. We don't necessarily need her to contribute. There was I would like to hear from a few of the Council. their thoughts. I think. Is Linda here? 536 00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:08.189 John Compton: I know. She she just sent out her opinion 537 00:50:08.210 --> 00:50:14.244 John Compton: to hopefully the whole council. But maybe not. I can. I can provide hers if she's not here. 538 00:50:15.080 --> 00:50:19.220 John Compton: yeah, I think she's in morning. Linda may be in morning over her car. 539 00:50:19.230 --> 00:50:19.770 marywarfield: One. 540 00:50:20.694 --> 00:50:21.620 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 541 00:50:22.220 --> 00:50:22.819 Christine Dibble: But 542 00:50:24.030 --> 00:50:24.420 John Compton: Local. 543 00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:28.299 marywarfield: So are are the tennis courts. They're open to the public right? 544 00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:29.939 marywarfield: So locking. 545 00:50:29.940 --> 00:50:30.410 Peter Nagrod: No. 546 00:50:30.410 --> 00:50:31.600 marywarfield: And make some excuses. 547 00:50:31.600 --> 00:50:32.259 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, no, they're not. 548 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:34.130 marywarfield: They're only for they're only for town. 549 00:50:34.210 --> 00:50:37.950 marywarfield: I thought it was only the clay courts. They're both. They're all for town. 550 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.060 marywarfield: Oh, okay. I didn't know that. 551 00:50:39.060 --> 00:50:44.309 Peter Nagrod: The clay ones are all the other I've ever heard that the hard ones is that's 552 00:50:44.890 --> 00:50:46.310 Peter Nagrod: that doesn't say 553 00:50:47.110 --> 00:50:52.779 Peter Nagrod: it doesn't. That's just the hard ones. Let's just the clay courts say town residents, only 554 00:50:52.790 --> 00:50:56.829 Peter Nagrod: I don't think I'm not sure that sign, I think, doesn't say 555 00:50:57.320 --> 00:50:59.340 Peter Nagrod: doesn't prohibit out of counters. 556 00:50:59.340 --> 00:51:02.060 horan: Town. The courts are for town people. 557 00:51:03.140 --> 00:51:05.600 Peter Nagrod: But the signage we're asking, what does the signage say? 558 00:51:05.600 --> 00:51:07.120 horan: I think it does. 559 00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:07.700 Peter Nagrod: Has. 560 00:51:07.700 --> 00:51:09.019 horan: I think it does. 561 00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:09.740 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 562 00:51:09.740 --> 00:51:14.010 marywarfield: Not on the tennis courts. I don't think I mean it says it on the, on the play courts. 563 00:51:14.010 --> 00:51:14.636 Peter Nagrod: Like Owens. 564 00:51:14.950 --> 00:51:18.260 marywarfield: But the signs on the tennis court say, close the gate, or something. 565 00:51:21.090 --> 00:51:26.089 Peter Nagrod: It has a list of no skateboarding, no dogs. It has a list of all the things you shouldn't do on. There. 566 00:51:26.220 --> 00:51:26.730 John Compton: No guard. 567 00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:35.750 marywarfield: My my only point being, if it's not just for town residents, then we can't be locking it up, because how would other people get in. But if it's only for town residents. 568 00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:38.070 horan: Yeah, town residents. 569 00:51:38.870 --> 00:51:40.980 horan: It's always been town residents. 570 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:46.575 Eva: I mean, I'll so I'll just put in a couple of thoughts. I I'm conflicted about this. 571 00:51:46.910 --> 00:51:56.510 Eva: but I did. I did see a town resident with their dog in the tennis courts. So locking it, and ever all residents have. 572 00:51:56.580 --> 00:52:00.749 Eva: The the combination is not necessarily going to stop. I mean. 573 00:52:00.820 --> 00:52:12.430 Eva: I will admit that I once took my kids on there with their scooters before I realized that wasn't allowed cause I just didn't read the sign. So the problem is, people don't read signs. 574 00:52:12.470 --> 00:52:16.140 Eva: and town residents do things they're not supposed to. So 575 00:52:16.350 --> 00:52:19.460 Eva: I I think there's not really going to be a perfect solution 576 00:52:19.500 --> 00:52:21.080 Eva: either way. 577 00:52:21.940 --> 00:52:28.509 Eva: that. So yeah. So that's so. I'm kind of conflicted about it, because I know the community garden 578 00:52:28.640 --> 00:52:36.579 Eva: members would perhaps like to see it locked, because now the garden is there too, and it might prevent people from messing with the garden. 579 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.220 Eva: But again, town residents 580 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.549 Eva: can do things, you know. It's not just like. 581 00:52:42.550 --> 00:52:43.179 marywarfield: Yeah, like. 582 00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:45.800 Eva: Sniders are bringing their dogs on the tennis courts like 583 00:52:45.820 --> 00:52:47.649 Eva: I I don't. I don't think that 584 00:52:47.860 --> 00:52:49.300 Eva: you know what I'm saying. 585 00:52:49.799 --> 00:53:00.339 Eva: I think maybe the thing to do is to just make people more. Make people in town more aware that the tennis courts are really only for tennis. Please don't bring your dogs on. 586 00:53:00.530 --> 00:53:08.785 Eva: Please don't bring your kids, scooters and bikes on, and you know, maybe we can talk about other signage 587 00:53:09.580 --> 00:53:25.839 Eva: but it it might just be more of like we need to pee again like people don't always read signs. I think the problem with blocking it is that then people are gonna constantly be like, what's the combination? And there's gonna be, you know. 588 00:53:26.232 --> 00:53:27.600 Eva: and then we're it's 589 00:53:27.680 --> 00:53:36.619 Eva: but we could try that and see. I? You know I I don't know. I know there's there's some feeling that more signage is. 590 00:53:36.830 --> 00:53:41.619 Eva: It looks unwelcoming. But also locking something also looks unwelcoming. So. 591 00:53:41.950 --> 00:53:46.499 Eva: yeah, I just, I feel like, really, there's no good solution here. So. 592 00:53:46.500 --> 00:53:49.799 John Compton: I I I have a statement, and then I want to let Georgette 593 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:51.700 John Compton: say something because 594 00:53:52.197 --> 00:53:56.400 John Compton: she has has offered a point of view which 595 00:53:56.490 --> 00:53:59.209 John Compton: I'd like her to express 596 00:53:59.330 --> 00:54:08.320 John Compton: as well. But first of all, this is one of those situations where you know you have a couple of incidents 597 00:54:08.390 --> 00:54:12.039 John Compton: which you we don't like. Just just this week 598 00:54:12.220 --> 00:54:24.949 John Compton: we had trash cans left out behind the commercial corner, a new pickup place, a whole new new trash pickup. And and you know people are up in arms over that. 599 00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:32.800 John Compton: Well, the fact is that this that's a new service, and it's a hiccup. If that was happening regularly it would be something else. 600 00:54:33.350 --> 00:54:36.820 John Compton: Incidents on the tennis court don't happen regularly 601 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:53.630 John Compton: so far, I'm not aware. No doubt there have been, but I haven't. I'm not aware of any recent ones where there's been damage due to inappropriate use of the tennis courts. So, taking action to prevent a hypothetical 602 00:54:55.805 --> 00:54:56.760 John Compton: issue. 603 00:54:57.865 --> 00:55:01.400 John Compton: Is always pro problematic, in my opinion. 604 00:55:01.700 --> 00:55:05.169 John Compton: Secondly, and this is why I want Georgia to speak up. 605 00:55:05.697 --> 00:55:12.109 John Compton: Locking the court. Well, no before that. Secondly, it's a it's a it's a nightmare. 606 00:55:12.210 --> 00:55:22.600 John Compton: not a nightmare. It's like the lake. The combinations be changed all the time, and management ish management of this is can become a burden. 607 00:55:22.700 --> 00:55:25.490 John Compton: smaller or larger, as the case may be. 608 00:55:26.170 --> 00:55:33.429 John Compton: But there's another, and probably maybe the most important reason. Georgia, why don't you address that? I know you know what I'm talking about? 609 00:55:33.490 --> 00:55:34.914 John Compton: If you will. Yeah. 610 00:55:35.625 --> 00:55:35.980 Georgette Cole: Lot. 611 00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.420 Georgette Cole: Okay. So 612 00:55:38.540 --> 00:55:51.969 Georgette Cole: I did talk to Meredith about this, and she told me about a couple of incidents that she had experienced one with people who had their dog inside of the tennis court. 613 00:55:52.190 --> 00:55:53.680 Georgette Cole: and 614 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.969 Georgette Cole: some kids with skateboards. 615 00:55:56.492 --> 00:56:03.370 Georgette Cole: And I think particularly with the people with the dog. She spoke to them, and they basically said. 616 00:56:03.470 --> 00:56:06.580 Georgette Cole: Well, it's for tennis. 617 00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:07.650 Georgette Cole: But 618 00:56:08.890 --> 00:56:15.999 Georgette Cole: what's the problem? My dog can come in here, too. And she said, No, and they didn't really believe her. So 619 00:56:16.110 --> 00:56:20.010 Georgette Cole: I just thought that a sign that said specifically 620 00:56:20.230 --> 00:56:22.569 Georgette Cole: what we don't want on the courts. 621 00:56:23.510 --> 00:56:25.910 Georgette Cole: dogs, skateboards. 622 00:56:26.120 --> 00:56:34.110 Georgette Cole: rollerblading, whatever would be a better solution than a lock, because here the gateway committee has been working for 623 00:56:34.210 --> 00:56:47.649 Georgette Cole: several years now to make Washington grow seem more welcoming, and I don't find locks on the tennis courts very welcoming. I I think you know a reasonable sign that 624 00:56:48.620 --> 00:56:59.679 Georgette Cole: if you went to someone at the tennis court and said, see, there's a sign right here that says you're not supposed to have dogs in here. Could you please take your dog back out would be better than trying to lock it. 625 00:56:59.970 --> 00:57:01.250 Georgette Cole: So that's. 626 00:57:02.890 --> 00:57:08.619 Peter Nagrod: So, Jack, there is. There is a sign on the you're you're really talking about. The hard surface is the one 627 00:57:09.019 --> 00:57:18.510 Peter Nagrod: there's there's a sign. The sign is there? It says, no skateboard. It's lists, no skateboards, no dogs. It specifically says that it's been there. 628 00:57:18.510 --> 00:57:18.940 Georgette Cole: So. 629 00:57:18.940 --> 00:57:19.940 Peter Nagrod: Forever. Yeah. 630 00:57:19.940 --> 00:57:25.579 Georgette Cole: So when when Meredith said to these people, the sign says, no dogs, and they said. 631 00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:28.699 Georgette Cole: No, that doesn't apply to us. 632 00:57:29.150 --> 00:57:31.678 Georgette Cole: Okay, I I did not. 633 00:57:32.790 --> 00:57:39.580 Georgette Cole: I did not have the impression that there was actually a sign there that she could cite, and they were still saying, basically 634 00:57:39.860 --> 00:57:43.969 Georgette Cole: tough. We don't care. But at that point, honestly. 635 00:57:44.270 --> 00:57:53.490 Georgette Cole: I'd be. I'd be going back to the other side of fence and saying, Well, I'm calling 9 1 one now for the Montgomery County police 636 00:57:54.121 --> 00:58:00.988 Georgette Cole: and hope that that would be motivational. I I still, don't think locks are a great idea. 637 00:58:02.450 --> 00:58:11.670 Barbara: So. So this is Barbara. Can I ask a very naive question? I I get. You know you don't want skateboards and dogs, but 638 00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:22.149 Barbara: do they do any real damage? I mean on the Clay court? I could see that they would damage that. But on the other court it's as I understand it. It's blacktop, right? So is there any 639 00:58:22.550 --> 00:58:25.699 Barbara: damage? It's done with a dog, or 640 00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:26.330 Barbara: I will. 641 00:58:26.330 --> 00:58:26.910 Peter Nagrod: Picking. 642 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:27.440 Barbara: We're. 643 00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.189 Peter Nagrod: Picking up dog poop is. 644 00:58:29.190 --> 00:58:52.169 Barbara: No, no, no, no, but we know, but we already have a law against leaving your dogs poop, and we know people don't follow that law. But I mean so I guess I'm trying to find like, think in my mind, like, how big is this problem, you know, and is, you know a dog walking across the tennis courts once in a while really gonna harm the tennis courts, and if not, then 645 00:58:52.340 --> 00:58:54.980 Barbara: I'm not as concerned about it. 646 00:58:55.300 --> 00:58:56.330 Barbara: I don't know. 647 00:58:56.330 --> 00:59:22.410 Peter Nagrod: Well, Lind, Linda would tell you that any on any like, you know, John and John knows this. any tennis, you know good tennis surface, and we just spent a lot of money resurfacing ours. You are required to wear tennis shoes, not running shoes, not boots, because the surface gets damaged. Dog nails, skateboard wheels. Anything like that does damage the surface of the tennis courts. 648 00:59:22.410 --> 00:59:22.740 Barbara: Spoken. 649 00:59:22.740 --> 00:59:28.390 Peter Nagrod: That's why, if you go into almost any community that has tennis courts, they're usually locked. 650 00:59:28.740 --> 00:59:33.599 Peter Nagrod: and I'm not advocating locking it. But I just had since you brought it. Since this came up. 651 00:59:33.680 --> 00:59:48.199 Peter Nagrod: I just. I had a situation 6 months ago where there was a te some teenagers skateboarding on the tennis courts, and I went in nicely and asked them to stop their skateboarding, because, as it said in the sign, I pointed it out, it's not allowed. 652 00:59:48.550 --> 01:00:14.600 Peter Nagrod: and then an altercation te the teenagers. So then they started, you know, sassing and blah blah blah blah, and then about their buddies. There was about 12 of them were playing basketball, and they all come running over into the court surrounding me. And you know, it's like, yeah what you know, what you. You can imagine what's going on. I called the mayor to get advice, and I was told to call the police. 653 01:00:14.810 --> 01:00:25.759 Peter Nagrod: and I kind of walked away and thought about, and I was very upset. And you know. And so I was told, John, this comes down to enforcement of when things happen within the courts, you know. 654 01:00:25.940 --> 01:00:37.159 Peter Nagrod: You always have to call the police call the police call the police, you know. It's it's, you know. This is this is, we talk about enforcement, that the houses this comes up a lot, and this is part of, I guess, being a small town. 655 01:00:37.250 --> 01:00:40.520 Peter Nagrod: and you know, considering all the other things that we're dealing with. 656 01:00:40.590 --> 01:01:00.129 Peter Nagrod: What we do here isn't yeah. I kind of agree that these things do happen once in a while. I think that we have to. You just like, you know, keep our com, and if it's not doing too much damage, be nice, and just ask the people not to do it, and I will not want to see more signs. I'll say that I do not want to see cause they're not welcoming, as George said. 657 01:01:02.450 --> 01:01:05.670 Christine Dibble: I actually like the idea of having 658 01:01:05.730 --> 01:01:13.669 Christine Dibble: signs that are in the right place, meaning on the doors or gates whatever you call them to the ports. 659 01:01:14.107 --> 01:01:20.880 Christine Dibble: They're they shouldn't be like in the middle of the court at knee level. I don't know where they are now, so 660 01:01:21.317 --> 01:01:24.100 Christine Dibble: but they need to be where people 661 01:01:24.690 --> 01:01:25.600 Christine Dibble: can't. 662 01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.160 Christine Dibble: cannot say I didn't see the sign. 663 01:01:29.842 --> 01:01:33.059 Christine Dibble: Also the sign should include the word, please 664 01:01:33.590 --> 01:01:40.689 Christine Dibble: please don't do these things. And, thirdly, it should include the police non-emergency number. 665 01:01:40.790 --> 01:01:42.179 Christine Dibble: so that 666 01:01:42.290 --> 01:01:52.790 Christine Dibble: people can make the connections in their minds like, Okay, if I do skateboard here and somebody sees me. They're going to see that police non-emergency number and call that number. 667 01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:58.220 Christine Dibble: So I think if you have signs that say all the necessary things. 668 01:01:58.220 --> 01:01:58.640 Peter Nagrod: And. 669 01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:04.400 Christine Dibble: And are polite, and have that number that that should take care of the issue. 670 01:02:07.510 --> 01:02:29.250 Peter Nagrod: So we should just look at the sign that's there, and it's it's it's fading. Anyway. It could be re. It could be Redone and we and that would yeah. And the the signs at the Clay Courts are. They're low, like you say, it's it's very low. You don't. You can't really say, don't stick out. So we could really look at, you know, basically getting we need 4 signs. Basically. 671 01:02:30.110 --> 01:02:37.329 marywarfield: Cause there's there's no sign in the the gate that's near the road. All it says is close the gate, but there are no instructions on that one. 672 01:02:38.830 --> 01:02:39.750 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, there is. 673 01:02:40.490 --> 01:02:41.560 John Compton: I. 674 01:02:41.560 --> 01:02:43.039 marywarfield: If it is there, I don't see it. 675 01:02:43.040 --> 01:02:44.480 Peter Nagrod: Yes, we. 676 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:45.350 John Compton: Yeah. 677 01:02:45.613 --> 01:02:46.930 marywarfield: You need a better sign. 678 01:02:46.930 --> 01:02:47.530 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 679 01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.899 John Compton: I'm in agreement that that a tasteful 680 01:02:51.460 --> 01:02:54.220 John Compton: visible, not in any print 681 01:02:54.350 --> 01:02:59.290 John Compton: sign with with coach and information. You don't need to write a volume 682 01:03:00.083 --> 01:03:03.000 John Compton: is is is the the 683 01:03:03.100 --> 01:03:15.212 John Compton: the best way to approach this, for now, if there was routine, you know egregious violations of of these these prohibitions. That would be something else to deal with. 684 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:21.350 John Compton: But you know, the point is taken that you know, maybe we're not making it clear enough. 685 01:03:21.430 --> 01:03:38.979 John Compton: What was what's not, what should not happen on these courts, and we can certainly improve that if it's a resident, by the way, one of the approaches would be to say, Look, we currently prohibit. Do you know, use for this reason? If you would like to see that change. 686 01:03:39.060 --> 01:03:42.590 John Compton: please go to the Council, I mean you have. 687 01:03:42.590 --> 01:03:44.729 Christine Dibble: Like. That's what public appearances are for. 688 01:03:44.730 --> 01:03:57.300 John Compton: Exactly. So, you know, if you're a resident, you know, just flouting the town rules is you know you're not taking advantage of your your right to object so. But. 689 01:03:57.300 --> 01:03:57.760 Peter Nagrod: It's a. 690 01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:58.559 John Compton: Present. We haven't. 691 01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:08.069 Peter Nagrod: I'll volunteer if he gets assigns made, and maybe 2 other Council people would be interested in working on the wording. Who would that be Mary. And how about one other person? 692 01:04:08.300 --> 01:04:10.150 Peter Nagrod: And Christine? There we go, John. 693 01:04:10.160 --> 01:04:11.229 Peter Nagrod: we're all set. 694 01:04:11.553 --> 01:04:39.410 Eva: I would also recommend, too, that somebody type up something for to go out on the list, serve and the bulletin, because I mean, it may be like we're talking about residents coming in. They just don't know. Like, you know, Barbara was like, well, you know, is this really a problem like they may just not know why it's a problem and why they shouldn't do it. So you know, just friendly reminder. Don't bring your dogs and skateboards. Blah blah! Here's why. 695 01:04:39.780 --> 01:04:45.410 Eva: So that you know that people some people might read their email more than they read assign. I don't know. 696 01:04:45.420 --> 01:04:47.723 Eva: You get. Get a few more people that way. 697 01:04:47.980 --> 01:04:48.420 John Compton: Okay. 698 01:04:49.460 --> 01:04:52.099 John Compton: Alright, thank you. I'd like to move along. 699 01:04:52.100 --> 01:04:52.800 Peter Nagrod: Athletes. 700 01:04:53.170 --> 01:04:57.006 John Compton: Nick, Nick, Nick is here. He can mute and 701 01:04:57.510 --> 01:05:05.009 John Compton: and provide a you know a summary of how the election will be handled this year. Nick. 702 01:05:05.630 --> 01:05:09.549 Nick Suzich: And then my apologies for being technologically 703 01:05:10.250 --> 01:05:15.339 Nick Suzich: sufficient. I didn't realize that I had to acknowledge the recording 704 01:05:15.530 --> 01:05:17.980 Nick Suzich: to unmute and 705 01:05:18.600 --> 01:05:21.110 Nick Suzich: started the video. I was, in fact, here 706 01:05:21.130 --> 01:05:22.909 Nick Suzich: rather than with the keyboard. 707 01:05:23.070 --> 01:05:28.959 Nick Suzich: We're prepared. The the Board of Election Supervisors is a veteran group. 708 01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:30.920 Nick Suzich: We've been 709 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.379 Nick Suzich: doing it for a while now, and 710 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.680 Nick Suzich: instituted the first year of Covid. 711 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:43.910 Nick Suzich: a procedure to get people ballots, when I believe, the first year we did no in person, voting 712 01:05:43.930 --> 01:05:45.850 Nick Suzich: maybe for 2 years. 713 01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:48.460 Nick Suzich: and then we 714 01:05:48.500 --> 01:05:50.930 Nick Suzich: started to do in person voting, but 715 01:05:50.940 --> 01:05:55.379 Nick Suzich: left a policy in place for absentee ballots 716 01:05:55.680 --> 01:05:57.060 Nick Suzich: at a lot 717 01:05:57.200 --> 01:05:58.050 Nick Suzich: that 718 01:05:58.390 --> 01:06:02.739 Nick Suzich: was taken advantage of more heavily than previously. 719 01:06:02.770 --> 01:06:04.760 Nick Suzich: I like to say that 720 01:06:05.340 --> 01:06:08.829 Nick Suzich: it's just another way of encouraging participation. 721 01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:12.319 Nick Suzich: because there are people who aren't available that 722 01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:15.070 Nick Suzich: yeah. Always people were out of town 723 01:06:15.140 --> 01:06:23.580 Nick Suzich: are not available to vote in person, in addition to the people who might still be hesitant to do so for health reasons. 724 01:06:23.850 --> 01:06:33.180 Nick Suzich: So we're doing what we've done the last several years. We're having in person voting 4 to 7 o'clock, which is what's in the charter. 725 01:06:34.163 --> 01:06:36.939 Nick Suzich: We'll get if if 726 01:06:37.650 --> 01:06:41.910 Nick Suzich: if the pattern holds, we'll get more votes that way than we will 727 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:47.540 Nick Suzich: through the absentee process. But the absentee process is the same. It's very 728 01:06:47.690 --> 01:06:49.170 Nick Suzich: straightforward. 729 01:06:49.450 --> 01:06:53.690 Nick Suzich: It. It requires a couple of steps, but there haven't really been. 730 01:06:53.730 --> 01:06:56.440 Nick Suzich: I haven't heard objections from people. 731 01:06:56.590 --> 01:06:58.639 Nick Suzich: It requires them to 732 01:06:58.660 --> 01:07:01.180 Nick Suzich: fill out a request for a ballot 733 01:07:01.570 --> 01:07:06.670 Nick Suzich: which is available on the website, and having spoken to Kathy today. 734 01:07:06.730 --> 01:07:10.690 Nick Suzich: I know she'll have will have some copies of the request 735 01:07:11.250 --> 01:07:13.509 Nick Suzich: available in the office as well. 736 01:07:13.590 --> 01:07:17.630 Nick Suzich: and she's in the process of producing the ballot. 737 01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.969 Nick Suzich: and I have a couple of requests for ballots already. 738 01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:22.769 Nick Suzich: What we do is 739 01:07:23.050 --> 01:07:26.419 Nick Suzich: have a series of envelopes. I I won't. 740 01:07:26.690 --> 01:07:28.729 Nick Suzich: father to illustrate it, but 741 01:07:29.680 --> 01:07:32.709 Nick Suzich: anyone can get a request for a ballot 742 01:07:33.386 --> 01:07:40.120 Nick Suzich: from Kathy, or printed from the website where Christine has posted it in a couple of places. 743 01:07:40.350 --> 01:07:45.400 Nick Suzich: and get that to the office, either through the Us. Mail or in person. 744 01:07:45.490 --> 01:07:49.079 Nick Suzich: and we will turn around within 24 h or so. 745 01:07:49.240 --> 01:07:51.069 Nick Suzich: and get them a ballot 746 01:07:51.330 --> 01:07:52.690 Nick Suzich: through the mail 747 01:07:53.553 --> 01:07:57.270 Nick Suzich: and then we have a series of envelopes that 748 01:07:57.290 --> 01:08:05.370 Nick Suzich: allow us to keep the ballot anonymous, and still have a signature attached to it long enough to 749 01:08:05.750 --> 01:08:10.259 Nick Suzich: to check it against the voting world, to make sure that it's a ballot ballot. 750 01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:15.390 Nick Suzich: It's something that we've done for a number of years now, and we haven't had any 751 01:08:15.410 --> 01:08:20.939 Nick Suzich: problems, and I anticipate it going the way it's gone again this year. 752 01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:26.400 Nick Suzich: So there are any questions. I think everybody's familiar with what we've been doing. 753 01:08:31.510 --> 01:08:32.822 John Compton: Thank you. Nick. 754 01:08:33.330 --> 01:08:38.859 John Compton: yeah, I think the elections have gone very smoothly. They've got it down good procedure. 755 01:08:39.069 --> 01:08:52.175 John Compton: So we're in good hands and appreciation to the Board of Supervisors of elections. Who, indeed have been a consistent some consistent individuals. 756 01:08:53.170 --> 01:08:55.907 John Compton: What we talking about, Margo? And who else? 757 01:08:56.250 --> 01:09:09.090 Nick Suzich: Hey, Vict? And Mary Blake is the observer, he said. It's an easy one, because you really only have to. You get to seem as if you're pitching in. But you're only pitching in for a day here. 758 01:09:11.459 --> 01:09:12.059 John Compton: And. 759 01:09:12.060 --> 01:09:17.139 Nick Suzich: So. So that's why they've all. Everybody's been happy to stay in their positions for a long time. 760 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:22.370 John Compton: Well, nevertheless, it's it's appreciated. 761 01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:24.350 Kathy Lehman: Yeah. That's why it's great. 762 01:09:24.350 --> 01:09:28.179 John Compton: By by all of the town, and certainly by me and the council. 763 01:09:29.229 --> 01:09:30.139 Nick Suzich: Okay. 764 01:09:30.489 --> 01:09:31.379 Nick Suzich: Thanks. 765 01:09:32.029 --> 01:09:40.829 John Compton: Alrighty. So next item on the administrative matters are some appointments. To the Historic Preservation Commission. 766 01:09:41.644 --> 01:09:58.939 John Compton: The first one are 2 reappointments. Bob Brewer's term ends at the in June, and I am proposing to reappoint Bob for another 3 year term ending May in in 767 01:09:59.849 --> 01:10:01.469 John Compton: may 30. First, 768 01:10:02.589 --> 01:10:04.439 John Compton: 2,026. 769 01:10:08.549 --> 01:10:12.449 John Compton: I throw it any any comments on that. Bob, of course, has been the chairman 770 01:10:12.549 --> 01:10:20.349 John Compton: pretty much since the inception of the Hpc. So that we're now talking almost, if not, we may be more than 20 years. 771 01:10:22.289 --> 01:10:24.912 John Compton: I, personally, and I was mayor back now, 772 01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.900 John Compton: or worse, I had a 10 year gap. I wrote. 773 01:10:30.297 --> 01:10:31.490 Peter Nagrod: I remember that. 774 01:10:33.240 --> 01:10:37.919 John Compton: yeah, but that the you know I I I think this is the right time. 775 01:10:38.040 --> 01:10:44.729 John Compton: because he's been chairman. And, by the way, the next reappointment is Dave Stow Packet. He's been on practically as long. 776 01:10:45.490 --> 01:11:02.299 John Compton: The Hpc. Was established in connection with our efforts to deflect the the high density went along Ridge Road and in the in the field and elsewhere, and 777 01:11:04.650 --> 01:11:11.329 John Compton: for those of you who were there, you know, convincing the town to adopt a another 778 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.030 John Compton: regulate commission. 779 01:11:14.472 --> 01:11:18.700 John Compton: Is not is not something you go into lightly. 780 01:11:18.740 --> 01:11:19.893 John Compton: So the 781 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:28.359 John Compton: The commission hour was established with no no actual power 782 01:11:28.420 --> 01:11:32.890 John Compton: to enforce historic preservation in any way whatsoever. 783 01:11:35.050 --> 01:11:38.020 John Compton: But we believed that 784 01:11:38.788 --> 01:11:53.470 John Compton: with historic preservation, being such an of such great importance and part of the the town's character, that a even a body that that could be persuasive to residents and advocate 785 01:11:53.630 --> 01:12:07.920 John Compton: for historic preservation would be a value. And it's been basically Bob and the early members and the continuing members of the of the Commission have who have created a a really significant credibility 786 01:12:07.970 --> 01:12:28.740 John Compton: for the Hpc you know, there are periods where you know their their recommendations, their participation in the process was criticized, or, you know, frustrating because it adds another layer. But but the vast majority of of people have been 787 01:12:29.030 --> 01:12:47.630 John Compton: recipients of the Hpc's activities have been very impressed, and I, I believe, felt on their individual projects, their internal renovations. Up to the you know, the the comprehensive plan. Revisions. 788 01:12:47.850 --> 01:12:49.300 John Compton: So this is 789 01:12:49.310 --> 01:12:55.459 John Compton: all the credit of all the Hpc. Commissioners. But Bob 790 01:12:55.670 --> 01:12:58.000 John Compton: Boer has been leading the charge. 791 01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:58.450 Peter Nagrod: The. 792 01:12:58.450 --> 01:13:07.059 John Compton: And you can't say enough about how how important he has been. So his willingness to continue in this role is 793 01:13:07.090 --> 01:13:08.260 John Compton: is 794 01:13:08.270 --> 01:13:09.670 John Compton: is 795 01:13:09.790 --> 01:13:11.360 John Compton: very good for the town. 796 01:13:12.910 --> 01:13:13.520 John Compton: Yeah. 797 01:13:14.590 --> 01:13:22.389 John Compton: okay, if there are no comments, let's move to a vote on the Council supporting my reappointment of Bob. All in favor. 798 01:13:23.220 --> 01:13:34.189 John Compton: any opposed. I won't let anybody be opposed. Alright. The second one is Dave Stow pack. His term also is up in the same same way. Dave's been on the Hvc. Quite a while. 799 01:13:34.911 --> 01:13:40.239 John Compton: He's, you know, again made huge contributions. Great consistency. 800 01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:42.112 John Compton: He's been active. 801 01:13:42.860 --> 01:13:45.399 John Compton: ever since we had the 802 01:13:45.510 --> 01:13:48.970 John Compton: the the challenge of a development. 803 01:13:49.110 --> 01:13:50.570 John Compton: So 804 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.569 John Compton: any, any, any comments from a 805 01:13:54.060 --> 01:13:55.979 John Compton: council on that reappointment. 806 01:13:56.730 --> 01:13:59.620 John Compton: if not all, in favor of reappointment of David. 807 01:14:00.620 --> 01:14:03.340 John Compton: any opposed? Okay. 808 01:14:03.650 --> 01:14:15.069 John Compton: alright. And now we have a very pleased to propose an alternate Hpc. Commissioner appointment to Samantha Susick 809 01:14:16.013 --> 01:14:25.786 John Compton: who is a pretty new resident of Washington Grove. She is a is a 810 01:14:26.790 --> 01:14:34.909 John Compton: you know. Now, a member of the susic family. I provided a brief bio that she provided to everyone if you took a look at that 811 01:14:35.566 --> 01:14:49.703 John Compton: and she has been it been involved in some of the Hpc activity, and has spoken extensively with Bob, and, as you know, the alternate position is is is 812 01:14:50.340 --> 01:14:57.989 John Compton: In addition to being a time commitment to actually pay attention and and participate. It's not a voting position unless 813 01:14:58.740 --> 01:15:02.590 John Compton: unless one of the Commissioners isn't present in which 814 01:15:02.620 --> 01:15:05.595 John Compton: I believe they're then allowed to vote 815 01:15:07.500 --> 01:15:10.519 John Compton: to fill out to fill out the 5 members. 816 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:32.441 John Compton: So I you know, this is a you know I I have to say this to this group. I mean, you know, this is a a new blood, not only new blood, potentially, but a young, young, younger, younger generation, and getting anybody interested and involved is a huge plus for the town. So 817 01:15:34.700 --> 01:15:38.910 John Compton: okay. Any comments on this appointment? 818 01:15:40.900 --> 01:15:44.200 John Compton: Alright favor. Queen Samantha Suzik. 819 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:46.570 John Compton: No opposed thanks. 820 01:15:47.040 --> 01:15:48.035 John Compton: Alrighty. 821 01:15:49.040 --> 01:15:59.909 John Compton: that's the end of the administrative business and takes us to a discussion of the remaining basic recommendations. 822 01:16:00.110 --> 01:16:03.330 John Compton: Having having the 823 01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:05.607 John Compton: already acted on the 824 01:16:06.370 --> 01:16:09.849 John Compton: the renaming of Mccatherine Hall. 825 01:16:10.100 --> 01:16:15.479 John Compton: I I put into the into the agenda the 4 remaining 826 01:16:16.391 --> 01:16:20.539 John Compton: remaining recommendations. The Council agreed to 827 01:16:21.006 --> 01:16:25.110 John Compton: address each one individually, and so here we are. 828 01:16:25.130 --> 01:16:41.270 John Compton: and in the order, in, in in order of the way they're listed, and I didn't list them in any particular order. Well, I did sort of the first one was the recommendation to collaborate with neighboring communities regarding the shared use path. 829 01:16:42.590 --> 01:16:43.460 John Compton: So 830 01:16:46.360 --> 01:16:48.010 John Compton: anyone who wishes to. 831 01:16:48.010 --> 01:16:48.610 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. 832 01:16:49.180 --> 01:16:51.770 Paula Puglisi: I'll I I'm what. 833 01:16:51.770 --> 01:16:53.689 Peter Nagrod: Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. 834 01:16:54.134 --> 01:17:00.700 Peter Nagrod: Doesn't, is I? I may maybe I'm wrong, but don't the council members get to speak first. 835 01:17:00.900 --> 01:17:02.120 John Compton: Absolutely. I'll. 836 01:17:02.120 --> 01:17:03.410 Paula Puglisi: Oh, I thought we were gonna. 837 01:17:03.410 --> 01:17:03.970 John Compton: Oh, yeah. 838 01:17:03.970 --> 01:17:06.239 Peter Nagrod: I apologize for saying, I apologize. 839 01:17:06.240 --> 01:17:17.237 John Compton: Oh, no, I I I was about to say the same thing. I think you know. If you want to preempt Paula's Paula's 840 01:17:18.410 --> 01:17:19.220 Paula Puglisi: Presentation. 841 01:17:19.220 --> 01:17:22.127 John Compton: Explanation as to why and what this is about. 842 01:17:22.450 --> 01:17:23.830 Peter Nagrod: Just okay, so 843 01:17:24.910 --> 01:17:34.896 John Compton: I I think. But I think Peter's right. I think we've already had some comments in past meetings a. A about this, and perhaps perhaps we can get to the gist of it. 844 01:17:35.563 --> 01:17:38.919 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I'm like a little bit confused and disappointed. 845 01:17:38.990 --> 01:17:46.119 Peter Nagrod: and it's probably my fault. But at the last, at the meeting where I propose rejecting all the callers. 846 01:17:46.565 --> 01:17:57.639 Peter Nagrod: Like we had the discussion, Rob, save this the day. And I was under the impression that these these 4 suggestions that we're gonna talk about tonight. 847 01:17:57.910 --> 01:18:10.639 Peter Nagrod: We don't really understand how they're gonna be carried out and what the involvement of the Council is in that, and that we would have been given that information before this meeting tonight. 848 01:18:11.230 --> 01:18:18.699 Peter Nagrod: I mean, that's just that's that was my, and I've looked. I've tried to. I've tried to see if I missed something, and I don't know if I have. 849 01:18:18.810 --> 01:18:31.210 Peter Nagrod: And so I thought I think it would have been more advantageous to race it if we had a little bit of time to see what the strategy is for the implementation of these 4 sub gestures. That's all. 850 01:18:31.570 --> 01:18:33.099 Paula Puglisi: I ask. I know you're actually, I know. 851 01:18:33.100 --> 01:18:37.819 Peter Nagrod: How are you dying to talk, Paul? But maybe somebody else wants to contradict me first. 852 01:18:38.730 --> 01:18:57.429 Eva: So I maybe I I remember us saying we would discuss them. I don't know that we were waiting on racic I thought we were going to discuss them and see if we wanted to tweak them ourselves. That's what my understanding was about it. 853 01:18:58.384 --> 01:19:03.559 Eva: Because I agree the way they are now it's it isn't clear what the Council's role is 854 01:19:03.650 --> 01:19:11.960 Eva: and what we're actually agreeing to do or not do. So I thought we were gonna kind of discuss that tonight. Was my understanding. 855 01:19:12.370 --> 01:19:23.770 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I I had heard at the meeting that we were gonna be there was some information missing, and that we would be receiving that that that's that was my understanding. Yeah. Now. 856 01:19:24.060 --> 01:19:29.130 John Compton: No, I think the basic provided those those proposals to the count. 857 01:19:29.820 --> 01:19:30.650 Peter Nagrod: Right. 858 01:19:30.650 --> 01:19:37.319 John Compton: Along with an explanation as to why, and along with that, a some action 859 01:19:37.390 --> 01:19:40.089 John Compton: that could be taken by the Council. 860 01:19:40.570 --> 01:19:43.790 Peter Nagrod: So let's let's let Paula speak. Okay. 861 01:19:43.790 --> 01:19:45.350 John Compton: And this is all 862 01:19:45.700 --> 01:19:47.730 John Compton: a suggestion 863 01:19:48.280 --> 01:19:49.530 John Compton: recommendation. 864 01:19:49.690 --> 01:19:52.099 John Compton: So and I got 865 01:19:52.310 --> 01:19:56.469 John Compton: my understanding from some of the previous comments from from counselors. 866 01:19:57.946 --> 01:20:00.219 John Compton: Was that 867 01:20:02.270 --> 01:20:06.880 John Compton: the the the issue was, did the Council need to 868 01:20:07.670 --> 01:20:08.930 John Compton: direct 869 01:20:09.250 --> 01:20:10.320 John Compton: either 870 01:20:10.360 --> 01:20:12.760 John Compton: the mayor or anybody else? 871 01:20:13.381 --> 01:20:26.989 John Compton: On these on these matters to and first of all, you know, is it is it something that where the town would benefit from doing? Is there something the town would benefit from doing that the Council can 872 01:20:27.519 --> 01:20:34.139 John Compton: can express whether it's just a consensus of opinion, or whether it's a directive of some sort. 873 01:20:34.350 --> 01:20:36.570 John Compton: So, and and 874 01:20:38.530 --> 01:20:42.689 John Compton: I don't think there's I mean, there may be more information one could get. 875 01:20:43.149 --> 01:20:53.939 John Compton: But I think maybe there are members of the you got on this particular one shared youth path. You've got a letter from Jay Everhart, representing the liaison committee. 876 01:20:54.080 --> 01:20:57.260 John Compton: Several, I think, and also a verbal statement 877 01:20:57.480 --> 01:20:58.305 John Compton: that 878 01:20:59.310 --> 01:21:06.130 John Compton: that the process for at least the shared use path between Brown Street and Crabs Branch is well along. 879 01:21:06.500 --> 01:21:17.510 John Compton: and there is, you know, really, no room for any input from any neighboring community or on on that process. 880 01:21:18.300 --> 01:21:19.770 John Compton: That said. 881 01:21:19.810 --> 01:21:21.529 John Compton: you know, the 882 01:21:21.540 --> 01:21:23.690 John Compton: accessibility of that path 883 01:21:23.730 --> 01:21:25.049 John Compton: from other 884 01:21:25.260 --> 01:21:27.879 John Compton: neighboring communities through town 885 01:21:28.140 --> 01:21:30.699 John Compton: is something that the town 886 01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:31.850 John Compton: can 887 01:21:33.422 --> 01:21:35.949 John Compton: promote or address. 888 01:21:36.020 --> 01:21:42.282 John Compton: and I think, Jay said, that the liaison committee would be willing to expand there 889 01:21:42.940 --> 01:21:44.870 John Compton: and involvement to 890 01:21:45.408 --> 01:21:50.340 John Compton: to facilitate, or you know any conversations that would be necessary 891 01:21:50.510 --> 01:21:52.303 John Compton: where where? 892 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:57.259 John Compton: to to improve, to make make better use of the 893 01:21:57.730 --> 01:21:59.860 John Compton: the newly constructed shared path? 894 01:22:00.605 --> 01:22:09.169 John Compton: So that was the opinion of him and the liaison committee. He did not recommend any formalism 895 01:22:09.360 --> 01:22:22.429 John Compton: to to, to, you know, to expand a a any any to re any representatives of neighboring communities. Beyond the seeking, you know. 896 01:22:22.540 --> 01:22:25.580 John Compton: and you know any opinions on what the town 897 01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:32.049 John Compton: can do to improve access. So that was that was what I paid attention to. I don't know how the Council feels. 898 01:22:32.570 --> 01:22:38.029 Paula Puglisi: I would really like the opportunity to just put everything together. And 899 01:22:38.250 --> 01:22:42.550 Paula Puglisi: because I keep hearing questions that I I 900 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.249 Paula Puglisi: I don't understand why they're questions. And 901 01:22:46.350 --> 01:22:53.679 Paula Puglisi: even if I I know you all have read a lot of this. But I would like the opportunity to just put all the information together 902 01:22:53.990 --> 01:22:56.680 Paula Puglisi: and read parts of what? Yes. 903 01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:02.080 Paula Puglisi: has already been written. But so that you hear the whole story of each recommendation. 904 01:23:04.390 --> 01:23:10.740 Paula Puglisi: yeah, is that okay with you, because I still hear just questions and kind of piecemeal stuff together. 905 01:23:10.740 --> 01:23:15.650 Barbara: I I don't think we need to hear anybody read the recommendations. We've read them. 906 01:23:15.650 --> 01:23:22.640 Paula Puglisi: I'm not going to read the all the entire recommendation, but I still hear misconception. 907 01:23:23.310 --> 01:23:27.989 Paula Puglisi: and I would really like to try to straighten a few of those out 908 01:23:29.075 --> 01:23:32.349 Paula Puglisi: if possible. I mean otherwise. 909 01:23:32.480 --> 01:23:33.770 Paula Puglisi: I feel like 910 01:23:33.810 --> 01:23:38.609 Paula Puglisi: I feel like this is in a real discussion that you're just still going along the same 911 01:23:39.375 --> 01:23:41.160 Paula Puglisi: the same path. 912 01:23:42.570 --> 01:23:43.240 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 913 01:23:43.990 --> 01:23:50.610 Barbara: If you can identify a misconception and clear it up, I think that would be helpful. But if it's just a question of 914 01:23:50.810 --> 01:23:55.860 Barbara: saying what's in the recommendations. I I don't think that would help. 915 01:23:58.490 --> 01:24:01.100 Paula Puglisi: One misconception 916 01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:03.210 Paula Puglisi: is that 917 01:24:04.450 --> 01:24:10.449 Paula Puglisi: part of the recommendation was to get input from other communities. And John just addressed this somewhat 918 01:24:10.870 --> 01:24:13.020 Paula Puglisi: about what is already 919 01:24:13.330 --> 01:24:15.350 Paula Puglisi: happened in Washington Grove. 920 01:24:16.500 --> 01:24:19.990 Paula Puglisi: I want to read the part of the recommendation 921 01:24:20.090 --> 01:24:23.599 Paula Puglisi: that shows that that is not in there at all. 922 01:24:25.051 --> 01:24:33.029 Paula Puglisi: The purpose is to share the results of the Washington Grove, Mc. OT. Negotiation. 923 01:24:33.210 --> 01:24:35.310 Paula Puglisi: But that's not asking for input 924 01:24:36.410 --> 01:24:43.969 Paula Puglisi: to share vision of the shared use pathway for the area. The area means the entire area. 925 01:24:44.310 --> 01:24:47.420 Paula Puglisi: and that is part of a change of 926 01:24:48.686 --> 01:25:02.980 Paula Puglisi: focus in thinking that we are actually part of a larger area, that. Yes, we're concerned about Washington grow. And we're also looking towards the whole community, which is what we said we would do in our resolution 927 01:25:03.810 --> 01:25:14.010 Paula Puglisi: to. And the other purpose is to find common interest and strategize ways to support each other's vision, especially when negotiating with the county and the letter from Gatorsburg. 928 01:25:14.933 --> 01:25:20.769 Paula Puglisi: Shows that there is at least someone around us who is interested in doing that as well. 929 01:25:22.406 --> 01:25:24.789 Paula Puglisi: There are suggested actions. 930 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:29.200 Paula Puglisi: but the reason that they are not prescriptive 931 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.130 Paula Puglisi: is because 932 01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:33.950 Paula Puglisi: we wanted 933 01:25:34.400 --> 01:25:37.220 Paula Puglisi: the town government 934 01:25:37.610 --> 01:25:41.400 Paula Puglisi: to be involved in with the other government 935 01:25:41.470 --> 01:25:45.499 Paula Puglisi: in deciding the exact process that they wanted. 936 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:51.669 Paula Puglisi: I mean, we're suggesting contact people and regular update kinds of meetings. 937 01:25:51.820 --> 01:25:56.320 Paula Puglisi: But you know, the John, other people can decide upon that. 938 01:25:57.150 --> 01:26:00.166 Paula Puglisi: A criticism of the recommendation. 939 01:26:01.250 --> 01:26:02.750 Paula Puglisi: was that 940 01:26:04.030 --> 01:26:14.920 Paula Puglisi: It was too far along for interference from other communities, and one resident even noted, but but they would be in favor of collaboration for additional roads that would connect the path. 941 01:26:15.190 --> 01:26:21.709 Paula Puglisi: And that is part of the purpose. The first bullet states that Washington Grove would just share the results. 942 01:26:22.100 --> 01:26:35.790 Paula Puglisi: and there's no mention of soliciting input. The second bullet states that the communities would share their vision for the area which means collaborating on additional roads that would connect the path from their direction. As John said. 943 01:26:35.820 --> 01:26:38.480 Paula Puglisi: I'm just going to read a little piece 944 01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.160 Paula Puglisi: a day's letter 945 01:26:41.350 --> 01:26:44.640 Paula Puglisi: that, and he verbally 946 01:26:44.900 --> 01:26:46.890 Paula Puglisi: supported this 947 01:26:48.059 --> 01:26:49.109 Paula Puglisi: recommendation. 948 01:26:49.120 --> 01:27:04.759 Paula Puglisi: I'm just gonna read a little piece in consideration of social equity and opportunity, I would support engagement with Rockville, Gaisberg, and any other interested community in pressing.to fund and complete 949 01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:19.460 Paula Puglisi: the Washington Grove Connector. Although the connector has finally been included in the Cip after years of effort by a few towns residents, there is no guarantee of funding as it is competing for funds with other bike wave projects 950 01:27:19.530 --> 01:27:23.760 Paula Puglisi: in the 6 year bikeways program wire project plan. 951 01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:37.859 Paula Puglisi: Thus, in the current plan, it is possible. By the beginning of next the next decade the connector will remain uncompleted. The more parties press the county and dot the faster the connector will be built. 952 01:27:38.590 --> 01:27:41.480 Paula Puglisi: So he is definitely in favor 953 01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:43.980 Paula Puglisi: of collaborating 954 01:27:44.100 --> 01:27:48.140 Paula Puglisi: for even just the piece that's already been decided. 955 01:27:48.300 --> 01:27:49.420 Paula Puglisi: and for 956 01:27:49.430 --> 01:27:50.989 Paula Puglisi: for the area 957 01:27:52.283 --> 01:27:55.179 Paula Puglisi: I do not see how this is 958 01:27:55.300 --> 01:28:03.879 Paula Puglisi: could be a bad thing for now or in the future, because you're talking about collaborating with neighborhoods 959 01:28:03.990 --> 01:28:11.449 Paula Puglisi: on one transportation issue, and it seems that it would benefit everyone forever. 960 01:28:12.096 --> 01:28:26.449 Paula Puglisi: You know that this was already supposed to be in the engineering space, and John and Jay had to work hard just to make just to start all over and get it considered for the the budget now. So I mean, anything could happen. 961 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:28.839 Paula Puglisi: We're not set 962 01:28:29.130 --> 01:28:33.810 Paula Puglisi: and thinking of ourselves as part of a larger community, makes sense to me. 963 01:28:36.190 --> 01:28:39.039 Paula Puglisi: And it's part of the promise of the resolution. 964 01:28:39.260 --> 01:28:52.339 Peter Nagrod: So, Paul Paula, who are the thank you for explaining that. So so who are the players? In this from a council perspective. I know. So John is a player, and that he's gonna send out to know this, and then. 965 01:28:52.340 --> 01:28:52.830 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 966 01:28:52.830 --> 01:28:57.259 Peter Nagrod: How do you envision like? Who's responsible to carry this through within the town? 967 01:28:58.340 --> 01:29:01.549 Paula Puglisi: Well. The mayor sends the invitation to all parties. 968 01:29:01.550 --> 01:29:01.950 Peter Nagrod: Right. 969 01:29:01.950 --> 01:29:03.350 Paula Puglisi: Of the neighborhood. 970 01:29:03.500 --> 01:29:04.600 Paula Puglisi: and then 971 01:29:04.860 --> 01:29:07.269 Paula Puglisi: the the the people 972 01:29:07.480 --> 01:29:12.900 Paula Puglisi: in every municipality would decide who they want to represent. 973 01:29:14.510 --> 01:29:17.190 Paula Puglisi: That municipality in the group 974 01:29:18.190 --> 01:29:21.640 Paula Puglisi: that will meet periodically 975 01:29:22.210 --> 01:29:29.919 Paula Puglisi: to make sure that everybody understands what's happening, and everybody's on the same page in terms of negotiating with the Council. 976 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:34.870 Peter Nagrod: No, yeah, I was. No, I was just asking within Washington Grove. Would that be like John? Would that be Jay 977 01:29:34.950 --> 01:29:35.960 Peter Nagrod: his group or. 978 01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:38.300 Paula Puglisi: Well, they could decide that. I mean. 979 01:29:38.300 --> 01:29:39.260 Peter Nagrod: Matter, okay. 980 01:29:39.260 --> 01:29:41.379 Paula Puglisi: Rayfect should be telling 981 01:29:41.510 --> 01:29:47.250 Paula Puglisi: John and Jake that I mean I would imagine it would be them. But I don't feel like we should be 982 01:29:47.450 --> 01:29:53.550 Paula Puglisi: that prescriptive I feel if you want us to be, we can. But if you want us to say this is what we want you to. 983 01:29:53.550 --> 01:30:04.520 Peter Nagrod: I just wanna be clear. I just I just wanna be clear on what we're voting on, because I think this sounds great. But but the the you know. What's what's the plan for this? Because there's a lot. 984 01:30:05.010 --> 01:30:06.670 Paula Puglisi: Suggested action. 985 01:30:06.670 --> 01:30:07.609 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, yeah. 986 01:30:08.184 --> 01:30:15.280 Paula Puglisi: Or the mayor sends an invitation to all parties dating the purposes that are listed in the recommendation. 987 01:30:15.390 --> 01:30:22.790 Paula Puglisi: and the discussion results in identified consensus that delineates ways, the group will continue to support each other. 988 01:30:22.890 --> 01:30:28.809 Paula Puglisi: I mean, these are, this is what the designates, a contact person and a backup contact person 989 01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.439 Paula Puglisi: set date for periodic check in 990 01:30:31.450 --> 01:30:35.380 Paula Puglisi: to determine if action is needed to further the agreed upon strategy. 991 01:30:36.170 --> 01:30:40.959 Paula Puglisi: So those are suggested actions that you can tweak. 992 01:30:41.330 --> 01:30:45.800 Paula Puglisi: But you're voting on. All you're voting on is 993 01:30:46.350 --> 01:30:48.750 Paula Puglisi: whether you want 994 01:30:49.090 --> 01:30:49.970 Paula Puglisi: to 995 01:30:51.240 --> 01:30:56.979 Paula Puglisi: whether you want to collaborate with neighboring communities 996 01:30:57.540 --> 01:31:00.920 Paula Puglisi: on shared interest regarding the past 997 01:31:01.740 --> 01:31:03.480 Paula Puglisi: now and in the future. 998 01:31:03.930 --> 01:31:09.620 Paula Puglisi: Do you want to to create a mechanism of collaboration on this issue? 999 01:31:11.080 --> 01:31:22.470 Barbara: So this, this is Barbara. The this resolution talks about, or the recommendation, I should say, talks about representatives from Emory Grove. Well, Emory Emory Grove is Gaithersburg. 1000 01:31:22.470 --> 01:31:35.470 Paula Puglisi: Paris. Well, we're not we. It doesn't have to it. We're talking, really, that neighborhood, not necessarily who who fault? Because Gatersburg there a lot of areas in Gatersburg. And some of those people have 1001 01:31:35.904 --> 01:31:39.945 Paula Puglisi: group that advocate for those specific neighborhoods, too. So we're. 1002 01:31:40.350 --> 01:31:48.699 Barbara: But we're but we're a municipality. And so we generally deal with other municipalities. So like Gathersburg, for example, which we are in. 1003 01:31:48.700 --> 01:31:49.060 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. 1004 01:31:49.060 --> 01:31:50.940 Barbara: With them about shared use paths. 1005 01:31:50.940 --> 01:31:51.340 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1006 01:31:51.340 --> 01:31:53.540 Barbara: So this would. 1007 01:31:53.540 --> 01:31:54.050 Paula Puglisi: So are you. 1008 01:31:54.050 --> 01:31:57.425 Barbara: Every robe is not a municipality. It's a small. 1009 01:31:57.800 --> 01:31:58.810 Paula Puglisi: Understand what you're. 1010 01:31:58.810 --> 01:31:59.450 Barbara: Nathersberg. 1011 01:31:59.450 --> 01:32:13.669 Paula Puglisi: But I think that neighborhoods also have particular interest, and May and they could be invited. I know that Heritage Emery Grove specifically asked if they could be invited so that they would know what was happening. 1012 01:32:14.190 --> 01:32:17.300 Christine Dibble: So, Paula, I I understand 1013 01:32:17.340 --> 01:32:20.219 Christine Dibble: what you're trying to do. I think, though, that 1014 01:32:21.660 --> 01:32:27.250 Christine Dibble: I'm not sure that Emery Grove is within the Gaithersburg City limits. But let's assume it is 1015 01:32:27.310 --> 01:32:46.039 Christine Dibble: then it seems to me that we would have to go to the city of Gaithersburg and say we'd be very interested in having specific neighborhoods within Gaithersburg join with us. But then that invitation has to come from the city of Gaithersburg, not from us. 1016 01:32:46.200 --> 01:33:08.679 Christine Dibble: I I think it would be almost insulting to have somebody there who's representing all of Gathersburg, and then be told, well, we have PE representatives from specific neighborhoods in Gaithersburg, and they had equal footing with you, even though they're just, you know the Vice President of an ho! 1017 01:33:08.870 --> 01:33:13.189 Christine Dibble: They're not, you know, on the Gathersburg city council. 1018 01:33:13.300 --> 01:33:19.790 Christine Dibble: So I I think that could be kind of more problematic than 1019 01:33:20.540 --> 01:33:22.299 Christine Dibble: than you think. It's gonna be. 1020 01:33:22.300 --> 01:33:24.070 Paula Puglisi: Maybe that's a first step. 1021 01:33:24.430 --> 01:33:25.820 Paula Puglisi: maybe the first. Yeah. 1022 01:33:25.820 --> 01:33:33.930 John Compton: First of all, Emory Grove. The what we think of as Emory Grove is not in the city of Gaithersburg is in the county. 1023 01:33:34.220 --> 01:33:38.240 John Compton: so you you can stop talking about cases, or they don't represent 1024 01:33:38.610 --> 01:33:42.020 John Compton: that May. That may rather they do represent. 1025 01:33:42.040 --> 01:33:47.379 John Compton: you know, other neighborhoods on along Mid Mid county, mostly on this side of mid county 1026 01:33:47.970 --> 01:33:51.730 John Compton: also, who would benefit from this path? Of course. 1027 01:33:52.750 --> 01:33:53.730 John Compton: So 1028 01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:55.275 John Compton: yeah, 1029 01:33:56.230 --> 01:34:00.420 John Compton: So look, I read this, and I think 1030 01:34:00.470 --> 01:34:06.269 John Compton: we we have, luckily, or for we do have a group who is 1031 01:34:06.707 --> 01:34:14.419 John Compton: who is, has has has taken on the responsibility of monitoring and working with the county on the shared used path. 1032 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:16.470 John Compton: It's 1033 01:34:16.620 --> 01:34:29.110 John Compton: perfectly possible to engage them in looking in the other direction, and that we already have with respect to the Gaithersburg shared, use path in into Brown Street. 1034 01:34:29.120 --> 01:34:35.425 John Compton: Look in the other direction on these issues as to as to how can the town 1035 01:34:37.947 --> 01:34:41.710 John Compton: work with neighboring communities to make access 1036 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.469 John Compton: to this path, this path? 1037 01:34:45.772 --> 01:34:47.650 John Compton: to facilitate it. 1038 01:34:49.330 --> 01:34:54.210 John Compton: and I think this liaison group is the right right ones to do it. 1039 01:34:54.915 --> 01:35:04.469 John Compton: My suggestion is that this I I view this recommendation as my answer to this recommendation is to say, Hey. 1040 01:35:04.670 --> 01:35:08.859 John Compton: you're right. We haven't been reaching out to neighboring communities. 1041 01:35:09.300 --> 01:35:12.809 John Compton: We can engage the liaison committee because we have one 1042 01:35:13.929 --> 01:35:21.870 John Compton: to help the mayor and the Council reach out concerning a any any 1043 01:35:22.510 --> 01:35:25.784 John Compton: interest or recommendations, or or 1044 01:35:26.580 --> 01:35:42.690 John Compton: ideas regarding this new pathway, and and move forward with that. And certainly, you know communication in the form of letters is the best way to do that. I propose to ask the layers on committee to draft some letter, a letter, or to 1045 01:35:43.330 --> 01:35:52.089 John Compton: I I envision at least 2 one to support the construction, and that would. That's something that they we would like them to support at the county level. 1046 01:35:52.230 --> 01:35:54.859 John Compton: and the other is to 1047 01:35:55.210 --> 01:35:58.790 John Compton: to invite them to make suggestions with respect to access 1048 01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:04.020 John Compton: through this pathway, which, of course, is going to be through Washington Grove. 1049 01:36:04.440 --> 01:36:09.569 John Compton: So does that. I I think that goes. You know, most of the way. 1050 01:36:10.915 --> 01:36:12.120 John Compton: I 1051 01:36:12.160 --> 01:36:14.630 John Compton: you know. I think the general 1052 01:36:15.080 --> 01:36:17.190 John Compton: tenor of this recommendation 1053 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:24.630 John Compton: goes beyond the bike path. It's kind of reminding us that we have not been very good at 1054 01:36:24.700 --> 01:36:28.183 John Compton: engaging our neighboring communities in 1055 01:36:29.120 --> 01:36:37.300 John Compton: in issues which might impact them that are not strictly Washington Grove issues, and 1056 01:36:37.750 --> 01:36:39.160 John Compton: at the same time 1057 01:36:39.200 --> 01:36:56.499 John Compton: expanding those issues that there there are them, things we should be engaging them with in in the interest of this this inclusive more inclusive future. With for for the town. 1058 01:36:56.500 --> 01:37:10.310 John Compton: So that's the way I see it. I mean, I think I don't think any action by the Council is necessary other than to perhaps you know, stage your agreement that the, you know, this seems like a very positive way to approach 1059 01:37:11.269 --> 01:37:11.999 John Compton: the 1060 01:37:13.040 --> 01:37:18.610 John Compton: The involving neighboring communities in the shared use path. 1061 01:37:18.610 --> 01:37:24.700 Barbara: So. So this is Barbara. Can I ask that the shady grove crossing community be included as well. 1062 01:37:24.700 --> 01:37:25.210 John Compton: Well. 1063 01:37:25.210 --> 01:37:26.769 Barbara: Right on our doorstep. Yeah. 1064 01:37:26.770 --> 01:37:34.589 John Compton: No, when I say I keep saying neighborhoods, because yes, absolutely Shady Grove Crossing and the Amity community they will have. 1065 01:37:34.630 --> 01:37:40.930 John Compton: you know, you know a new, a new opportunity. New access. Via this map. 1066 01:37:42.810 --> 01:37:43.510 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1067 01:37:44.300 --> 01:37:57.550 Eva: So is what we're saying, then, that we're going to vote, you know. Do we support Washington Grove collaborating with other communities on 1068 01:37:57.850 --> 01:38:04.419 Eva: access to the current shared, use path plan, and other shared. Use paths. 1069 01:38:04.610 --> 01:38:15.009 Eva: And then we'll kind of give that directive to the liaison committee group to figure out how they how exactly they want to do that. Maybe through letters mostly, John said, is that 1070 01:38:15.080 --> 01:38:16.940 Eva: is that what we're saying. 1071 01:38:18.350 --> 01:38:22.450 John Compton: Well, I think that's one opportunity for the Council to make a statement. Yeah. 1072 01:38:22.700 --> 01:38:25.520 John Compton: I don't think you have to vote on anything here. 1073 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:26.290 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1074 01:38:26.870 --> 01:38:27.470 Christine Dibble: UN. 1075 01:38:27.690 --> 01:38:38.810 Christine Dibble: I'm also sensitive to the idea that we're giving the shared Use Path Committee more work to do. I know Chris is on the call 1076 01:38:39.271 --> 01:38:45.068 Christine Dibble: or on the meeting right now, and I I'm not sure if Jay is or not. But 1077 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:55.610 Christine Dibble: I would guess that there will be members of the shared Use Path Committee who are more interested in this than other members are. 1078 01:38:55.660 --> 01:38:58.399 Christine Dibble: and and I think you know it. 1079 01:38:58.670 --> 01:39:02.499 Christine Dibble: That committee can do whatever it wants. It could make 1080 01:39:02.510 --> 01:39:09.079 Christine Dibble: someone who's not one of the co-chairs. You know the head of this effort to come up with 1081 01:39:09.110 --> 01:39:09.963 Christine Dibble: kind of 1082 01:39:10.580 --> 01:39:19.189 Christine Dibble: I don't want to use the term boilerplate, but sort of standard language to send out to neighboring neighboring communities about this issue. 1083 01:39:19.410 --> 01:39:20.440 Christine Dibble: and 1084 01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:23.960 Christine Dibble: you know, and then the committee could come 1085 01:39:24.350 --> 01:39:25.669 Christine Dibble: back to us. 1086 01:39:26.505 --> 01:39:30.209 Christine Dibble: I I think, John, they'd have to come back to you because they 1087 01:39:30.670 --> 01:39:35.910 Christine Dibble: they essentially draft a letter, and then you'd have to sign it. Isn't that right? 1088 01:39:35.910 --> 01:39:42.106 John Compton: Yeah, no, that's what I'm recommending is that communication should come from official Washington Grove. 1089 01:39:43.067 --> 01:39:45.850 John Compton: individuals, which in this case would be me. 1090 01:39:45.940 --> 01:39:52.239 John Compton: Yeah. So they would be drafting the communication and me involved in responses and. 1091 01:39:52.240 --> 01:39:52.830 Christine Dibble: So case. 1092 01:39:52.830 --> 01:40:04.879 John Compton: Average. We have 2 members here at least. Barbara's on the committee, and she's also on the committee. I maybe somebody else is. I'm forgetting who. But 1093 01:40:05.310 --> 01:40:11.670 Peter Nagrod: So, John? John, what give us the answer. What would your motion be? What are you thinking. 1094 01:40:13.500 --> 01:40:21.710 John Compton: If, if if the Council wants to take an action, I would propose that the Council basically approve what was just stated by, believe Eva. 1095 01:40:22.660 --> 01:40:23.480 Peter Nagrod: Bethlehem. 1096 01:40:23.480 --> 01:40:26.990 John Compton: The council supports. You know. 1097 01:40:28.650 --> 01:40:34.671 John Compton: outreach to neighboring communities to to facilitate 1098 01:40:38.180 --> 01:40:45.340 John Compton: act, you know, community neighboring community use of the new shared Use path. 1099 01:40:45.690 --> 01:40:47.505 Peter Nagrod: I'll second Eve's motion. 1100 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.580 John Compton: Right. I think that was about the gist of it. I mean she may 1101 01:40:51.010 --> 01:40:52.969 John Compton: better than I did, I think, but 1102 01:40:55.190 --> 01:40:57.070 John Compton: And we have a second on that. 1103 01:40:58.502 --> 01:40:59.619 Peter Nagrod: That was me. 1104 01:40:59.620 --> 01:41:01.036 John Compton: Oh, you're the second. Okay? 1105 01:41:01.320 --> 01:41:02.299 Peter Nagrod: It's even as well. 1106 01:41:02.300 --> 01:41:04.219 John Compton: And has to agree to make make it. Yeah. 1107 01:41:04.660 --> 01:41:05.100 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1108 01:41:06.100 --> 01:41:07.219 Eva: Yeah, sure. 1109 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:10.290 John Compton: Alright. Any other discussion. 1110 01:41:10.290 --> 01:41:21.050 Christine Dibble: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna say, one more thing. Which is it sounds like what you're asking. The the shared use Path Committee to do is to come up with a list of 1111 01:41:22.240 --> 01:41:29.460 Christine Dibble: governments or other organizations like hoas, that they that 1112 01:41:29.530 --> 01:41:37.390 Christine Dibble: they would want the letter sent to, and also come up with the names of specific people like find out who the 1113 01:41:37.450 --> 01:41:47.579 Christine Dibble: head of the Hoa is in Shady Grove Crossing, and and you know that kind of thing, and if we had that list of people that would 1114 01:41:47.930 --> 01:42:03.360 Christine Dibble: that would help us a lot in the future with other issues. So so you're but you're asking a Bike Path Committee. Sorry shared use to do that, and then to actually draft a letter to go out to all of those people. 1115 01:42:04.400 --> 01:42:15.480 John Compton: Actually, I hadn't gotten to that point. I'm not sure Path Committee to do that. If they were willing, or anybody was willing to do that that'd be great. Otherwise we have a town clerk 1116 01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:31.634 John Compton: who's among among which there's many, many hats could W would be to identify who to contact in neighboring neighbor neighbor neighborhoods. To engage on on this and other issues. 1117 01:42:32.090 --> 01:42:39.390 Peter Nagrod: And to be fair, Eva her her motion wasn't that specific? Her hers was just very. 1118 01:42:39.590 --> 01:42:41.680 Peter Nagrod: very general. 1119 01:42:41.850 --> 01:42:42.720 Eva: Okay, I, just. 1120 01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:43.620 Peter Nagrod: You know right. 1121 01:42:43.620 --> 01:42:58.462 Eva: Type. Something up in the chat has that I can't speak as well as I can write. So the Council supports outreach to neighboring communities to facilitate collaboration and communication on shared use paths in the area. Is that what we're saying? 1122 01:42:58.890 --> 01:43:02.540 Eva: And then and then the specifics of that would be that 1123 01:43:02.930 --> 01:43:08.460 Eva: the liaison group would be carrying out that outreach reach in 1124 01:43:08.820 --> 01:43:13.399 Eva: with with letters signed by John. And however else they want to do that. 1125 01:43:13.980 --> 01:43:16.609 Kathy Lehman: Eva, will you send me your language? Please. 1126 01:43:16.610 --> 01:43:17.410 Eva: Yes. 1127 01:43:17.410 --> 01:43:18.949 John Compton: I will. Well, she can. Yeah. 1128 01:43:19.285 --> 01:43:19.620 Peter Nagrod: Kevin. 1129 01:43:23.410 --> 01:43:25.290 John Compton: Okay, any further discussion. 1130 01:43:27.090 --> 01:43:41.290 John Compton: Alright, let's move to a vote on Eva's motion, which is the Council supports outreach. I'm just gonna read again. Councils, reports, outreach to neighboring communities to facilitate collaboration and communication on shared use paths in the area. 1131 01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:43.740 John Compton: and I'll take that as a directive to the mayor. 1132 01:43:44.340 --> 01:43:49.389 John Compton: Alright. I see, too, anybody, everybody all in favor that's unanimous. Thank you. 1133 01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:50.470 John Compton: Alright. 1134 01:43:52.300 --> 01:43:53.160 John Compton: select. 1135 01:43:53.400 --> 01:43:54.289 Peter Nagrod: On that. Okay? So. 1136 01:43:54.290 --> 01:43:57.840 Christine Dibble: So wait, John, who? Whose job is it 1137 01:43:57.910 --> 01:44:02.199 Christine Dibble: to sort of let the shared use Path Committee 1138 01:44:02.420 --> 01:44:05.180 Christine Dibble: know what we expect from them? 1139 01:44:05.510 --> 01:44:06.819 John Compton: Whose do you think? 1140 01:44:08.270 --> 01:44:08.970 Christine Dibble: I rick. 1141 01:44:08.970 --> 01:44:13.929 John Compton: Jay was here. I think they are on vacation. Donna's here. She's been listening. 1142 01:44:13.930 --> 01:44:14.790 Barbara: I'm here. 1143 01:44:14.790 --> 01:44:20.000 John Compton: So, you know. I think they understand what the what what the councils and. 1144 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:22.169 Barbara: Yeah, I I can talk to Jay. 1145 01:44:22.480 --> 01:44:24.070 John Compton: Okay, that'd be great. 1146 01:44:24.480 --> 01:44:30.910 Paula Puglisi: I appreciate that. That's a very concrete gesture to our neighboring community, something really meaningful 1147 01:44:31.220 --> 01:44:35.169 Paula Puglisi: and something that I'll have a test of time that'll last. 1148 01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:44.720 Paula Puglisi: And I think that really is one of the things that will help us move forward with the promise for the resolution. That's not just flowery language. 1149 01:44:44.750 --> 01:44:47.930 Paula Puglisi: I think that that really is a real gesture. 1150 01:44:48.030 --> 01:44:49.280 Paula Puglisi: Also. 1151 01:44:49.290 --> 01:44:53.969 Paula Puglisi: you know, if you want Ray Tech to help find contact. 1152 01:44:54.730 --> 01:44:58.550 Paula Puglisi: you know, that's something we want to do, anyway. 1153 01:44:59.040 --> 01:45:03.260 Paula Puglisi: and those would be permanent contact. So let us know 1154 01:45:06.430 --> 01:45:08.110 Eva: I I sounds great. 1155 01:45:08.110 --> 01:45:12.270 Paula Puglisi: This is exactly what we wanted to happen, this discussion. 1156 01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:17.099 Paula Puglisi: so that you would decide what would be the best way for you to do that. 1157 01:45:17.380 --> 01:45:19.030 Paula Puglisi: So thank you very much. 1158 01:45:20.250 --> 01:45:33.939 Eva: I I don't know. Maybe Barbara knows you know what the liaison group does as far as meetings, and if they have regular meetings, but maybe it would make sense for some basic members to have be at the next meeting. 1159 01:45:33.940 --> 01:45:34.419 Paula Puglisi: For this year. 1160 01:45:34.420 --> 01:45:35.950 Eva: Liaison committee and. 1161 01:45:36.934 --> 01:45:41.019 Eva: But yeah, I think if you guys can work together, that seems helpful. 1162 01:45:41.306 --> 01:45:47.033 Paula Puglisi: Well, do you want to do you want me to? Let? Do you wanna let me know about that. 1163 01:45:48.077 --> 01:45:51.819 Barbara: Yeah. Let me talk to Jay and and see what he's away for a couple of weeks. 1164 01:45:51.820 --> 01:45:52.420 Paula Puglisi: Okay. 1165 01:45:52.810 --> 01:45:53.290 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1166 01:45:53.290 --> 01:45:58.770 Paula Puglisi: Alright, hmm, okay. So do you want me to move, or do you all want to move to the next one? How do you want to do this? 1167 01:45:58.770 --> 01:46:04.574 John Compton: We're moving on or moving on. We. We have a little bit of time constraint here. Things. 1168 01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:06.760 Paula Puglisi: And do this one real fast. 1169 01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:18.319 John Compton: Yeah, no way. I I would. Please let me finish the I do want to handle the next recommendation, and then perhaps we can defer the other 2 to the next meeting, or a. 1170 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:19.260 Peter Nagrod: Kid. 1171 01:46:19.260 --> 01:46:20.499 John Compton: In near term 1172 01:46:20.530 --> 01:46:23.520 John Compton: council discussion. 1173 01:46:24.630 --> 01:46:29.309 John Compton: But the next one is a recommendation to create a town website, protocol. 1174 01:46:31.160 --> 01:46:41.839 John Compton: and I, we. I'm just going to summarize comments that I heard, I, rather than rather than you know, start, let's let's start from where we actually are 1175 01:46:41.860 --> 01:46:50.156 John Compton: and where we actually are is that Christine, as Webmaster, has implemented a policy of 1176 01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:52.740 John Compton: of vetting 1177 01:46:55.040 --> 01:46:57.269 John Compton: communications to the town. 1178 01:46:57.330 --> 01:46:59.069 John Compton: and before they're posted 1179 01:46:59.220 --> 01:47:00.350 John Compton: for 1180 01:47:00.420 --> 01:47:09.300 John Compton: content, that is not in inappropriate that the town would consider inappropriate. In fact, that would be 1181 01:47:09.490 --> 01:47:17.819 John Compton: would be considered inappropriate by from a number of aspects solely for the posting. Remember, anybody can write anything 1182 01:47:18.180 --> 01:47:19.490 John Compton: to add. 1183 01:47:19.956 --> 01:47:31.629 John Compton: However offensive it is, and it becomes a matter of public. We, we save it, and it's a public record. But we are discussing posting in a public manner 1184 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:43.929 John Compton: preemptively this sort of communication. And that's what's an issue. So and that's what Christine's guidelines which she's implement. 1185 01:47:44.320 --> 01:47:48.910 John Compton: So the suggestion here and now, Paula, you may. 1186 01:47:49.130 --> 01:47:50.040 John Compton: Okay. 1187 01:47:50.370 --> 01:47:51.530 Paula Puglisi: Alright. Well, 1188 01:47:52.890 --> 01:48:00.810 Paula Puglisi: 2 of the the 2 parts of the recommendation, as you have said, have already been implemented, and that is not posting anonymous 1189 01:48:01.975 --> 01:48:02.870 Paula Puglisi: submission 1190 01:48:03.020 --> 01:48:08.259 Paula Puglisi: and and if there is also a disclaimer on there, correct? 1191 01:48:10.410 --> 01:48:15.419 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. And it referred to the resolution. So both of those were suggestions of racist. 1192 01:48:15.590 --> 01:48:19.210 Paula Puglisi: and I'm glad that that has already happened. 1193 01:48:19.260 --> 01:48:22.432 Paula Puglisi: The rest of the recommendation was 1194 01:48:23.510 --> 01:48:26.130 Paula Puglisi: I heard Pushback from that. 1195 01:48:26.350 --> 01:48:39.900 Paula Puglisi: partly because of free speech issues, and those I do feel are legitimate, and I think that race is very happy that those 2 parts of the recommendation have already been implemented. 1196 01:48:39.980 --> 01:48:44.640 Paula Puglisi: And if it's okay with everyone else, I think that we could put this one to rest. 1197 01:48:45.300 --> 01:48:48.509 Paula Puglisi: And you can move on to the meeting. If that's okay with you all. 1198 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:49.530 Paula Puglisi: And. 1199 01:48:50.310 --> 01:48:53.129 John Compton: Oh, I'm sure the counselor wants to spend another 20 min. Scott. 1200 01:48:53.130 --> 01:48:54.023 Paula Puglisi: Oh, yeah. 1201 01:48:56.740 --> 01:48:58.330 John Compton: Everybody. Okay? With that, we. 1202 01:48:58.330 --> 01:48:58.970 Peter Nagrod: Yes. 1203 01:48:59.370 --> 01:48:59.970 Peter Nagrod: yes. 1204 01:49:01.205 --> 01:49:07.380 John Compton: the recommendations having been, largely, largely implemented. 1205 01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:14.470 John Compton: Okay? So I I will suggest, since it's 9, 15 that we defer the remaining to 1206 01:49:16.110 --> 01:49:19.449 John Compton: recommendations to another time. 1207 01:49:19.996 --> 01:49:30.490 John Compton: And those are just to remind you it's the a formal, a more formal communication between the town and heritage, Emery Grove. 1208 01:49:30.740 --> 01:49:37.179 John Compton: and the recommendation to hire diversity, equity, and inclusion specialist. I see I should have put that one at the top. 1209 01:49:37.926 --> 01:49:46.530 John Compton: We may end up discussing that one, but I'd like to do it in connection with the budget. If there is going to be any discussion which there may be. 1210 01:49:47.700 --> 01:49:48.420 John Compton: All right. 1211 01:49:48.650 --> 01:49:52.017 John Compton: So let's move down to the proposed 1212 01:49:54.290 --> 01:49:57.350 John Compton: budget, tax rate, etc. 1213 01:49:57.350 --> 01:49:58.010 Peter Nagrod: Andrew that. 1214 01:49:58.551 --> 01:50:08.529 John Compton: Which we need to. I I would call what what needs to happen is there needs to be council approval of the budget to go to the town meeting on May eleventh. 1215 01:50:08.630 --> 01:50:09.555 John Compton: So 1216 01:50:11.050 --> 01:50:14.519 John Compton: let's we've got Jean here, but 1217 01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:22.270 John Compton: but I I'll call on her only in connection with it with questions. I hope the Council and anybody else who 1218 01:50:22.360 --> 01:50:25.569 John Compton: took a look at the budget. 1219 01:50:26.317 --> 01:50:32.645 John Compton: We'll weigh in, and momentarily I'm going to bring up the 1220 01:50:34.090 --> 01:50:35.570 John Compton: I'm not going to bring up. 1221 01:50:37.020 --> 01:50:38.870 John Compton: Do the world. 1222 01:50:39.320 --> 01:50:41.568 Jean Moyer: The summary budget is in the ordinance. 1223 01:50:41.890 --> 01:50:42.859 John Compton: Put in me 1224 01:50:45.180 --> 01:50:46.310 John Compton: alright. Well. 1225 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.470 John Compton: we'll do the ordinance after we do the budget, because 1226 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:51.520 John Compton: the ordinance is dependent on 1227 01:50:51.570 --> 01:51:03.369 John Compton: the outcome of the but of the ordinance I mean of the of the budget finalization. So let's start with the budget. I've got it finally where I can. 1228 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.123 John Compton: So it's on the screen. 1229 01:51:10.580 --> 01:51:11.600 John Compton: okay? 1230 01:51:11.980 --> 01:51:12.930 John Compton: So 1231 01:51:13.390 --> 01:51:15.257 John Compton: the salient features 1232 01:51:15.950 --> 01:51:16.780 John Compton: are, 1233 01:51:17.820 --> 01:51:24.249 John Compton: are the the property tax proposal? Where in the world? That's not what we need. 1234 01:51:25.019 --> 01:51:25.739 Jean Moyer: The next page. 1235 01:51:25.740 --> 01:51:28.750 John Compton: The other one need to start with the financial. 1236 01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:31.900 John Compton: Why is this? Not 1237 01:51:32.810 --> 01:51:34.779 John Compton: I showing the wrong thing here. 1238 01:51:34.780 --> 01:51:38.110 Jean Moyer: That's the second page. That's the summary page. 1239 01:51:38.860 --> 01:51:40.260 John Compton: Oh, yeah, thanks. 1240 01:51:40.950 --> 01:51:43.010 John Compton: Lost lost of red peek. 1241 01:51:43.790 --> 01:51:58.299 John Compton: Okay, is that large enough? So the the property taxes is proposed to use the constant yield a constant yield rate, which is a small decrease based on, I think, the increase in assessed valuation. 1242 01:51:59.200 --> 01:52:05.060 John Compton: So the tax rate would be slightly lower than for the current year. 1243 01:52:06.243 --> 01:52:18.089 John Compton: The dwelling tax proposed, the dwelling tax is is proposed, is is recovers the cost of our refuse, and a recycling contract. 1244 01:52:18.310 --> 01:52:24.799 John Compton: That contract we we approved. So then the the cost of it is is known. 1245 01:52:25.270 --> 01:52:26.320 John Compton: but 1246 01:52:26.430 --> 01:52:29.339 John Compton: it turns out that the current years 1247 01:52:30.301 --> 01:52:33.969 John Compton: expense, for this was significantly less 1248 01:52:34.120 --> 01:52:37.449 John Compton: then was in the budget for this year. 1249 01:52:37.780 --> 01:52:39.200 John Compton: therefore. 1250 01:52:39.604 --> 01:52:48.219 John Compton: we would have 2 options. What we therefore we collected more in the dwelling tax than we actually paid for that service. 1251 01:52:48.310 --> 01:53:02.690 John Compton: So the proposal the Council may that I made, and I think the Council adopted so far is that for this year we would issue a rebate to those properties who were assessed the dwelling tax 1252 01:53:03.130 --> 01:53:12.519 John Compton: that would rebate the amount that we didn't spend this year, and we would deduct that from the actual cost for the coming year. 1253 01:53:13.050 --> 01:53:14.840 John Compton: So. 1254 01:53:14.870 --> 01:53:23.359 John Compton: as a consequence, you see, this proposed number being significantly less than the the 1255 01:53:23.650 --> 01:53:24.730 John Compton: the 1256 01:53:25.430 --> 01:53:26.810 John Compton: actual number 1257 01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:30.780 John Compton: that we actually spent this year. And that's because of this rebate. 1258 01:53:31.290 --> 01:53:42.760 John Compton: So what it boils down to. And it's all explained here is that it will be a hundred $73 per dwelling. 1259 01:53:43.090 --> 01:53:49.880 John Compton: whereas last year it was 204, I believe, or something like that, or or 40, 1260 01:53:51.060 --> 01:53:52.409 John Compton: 240. 1261 01:53:52.580 --> 01:53:53.330 Jean Moyer: Or Nick. 1262 01:53:53.570 --> 01:53:58.360 John Compton: Yeah, so it's a substantial reduction from from this year. 1263 01:54:00.060 --> 01:54:17.660 John Compton: Alright, the rest of the town in the income remains what we looked at previously the bottom line for income proposed this. Here. It is higher than the budget for this year 1264 01:54:18.433 --> 01:54:23.879 John Compton: but less than what the the projected actual is for this year. 1265 01:54:24.100 --> 01:54:27.828 John Compton: This is the usual conservative budgeting. 1266 01:54:28.740 --> 01:54:38.750 John Compton: we. We cannot count on $740,000 in revenue. So the budget calls for 680,000 anticipated. 1267 01:54:39.858 --> 01:54:49.560 John Compton: After that line we have the Arpa Revenue and the Arpa funds, which we are bound and determined to commit to spending this year 1268 01:54:49.710 --> 01:55:00.844 John Compton: in the coming fiscal year, and that's this $423,000. So we listed that below not to not skew our 1269 01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:10.769 John Compton: our our budget numbers so we could compare the the other town expenses year year, year over year. 1270 01:55:11.670 --> 01:55:22.029 John Compton: and then we go under the expenses. And I'm not going to go through the expenses. I'm going to let the Council address anything you wish, or anybody else who's here 1271 01:55:22.110 --> 01:55:24.127 John Compton: may address so 1272 01:55:25.140 --> 01:55:27.919 John Compton: They, without pointing out any 1273 01:55:28.150 --> 01:55:32.750 John Compton: anything. We've we made all of the adjustments for the 1274 01:55:33.417 --> 01:55:35.089 John Compton: the work session 1275 01:55:35.833 --> 01:55:37.060 John Compton: but the 1276 01:55:37.510 --> 01:55:38.510 John Compton: and 1277 01:55:39.002 --> 01:55:43.847 John Compton: the bottom line is here, and you you you see it here in the budget. 1278 01:55:44.170 --> 01:55:48.090 Jean Moyer: Change the leaf, contract expense. 1279 01:55:48.340 --> 01:55:53.059 John Compton: Oh, correct. Yes. The leaf contract wherever that is. 1280 01:55:53.240 --> 01:55:54.150 Jean Moyer: Higher up. 1281 01:55:55.260 --> 01:55:56.980 John Compton: It's not here, Miss. 1282 01:55:57.210 --> 01:55:58.150 Jean Moyer: No, it's. 1283 01:55:58.150 --> 01:56:01.590 John Compton: I hear it is, yeah, yeah. Leaf collection 1284 01:56:02.093 --> 01:56:11.059 John Compton: we put in. We put in 2460, but it's only going to be 16, 7, 40, so it will drop. 1285 01:56:12.190 --> 01:56:14.859 Eva: So I have 2 things to bring up. 1286 01:56:15.590 --> 01:56:17.570 Eva: One. Is that 1287 01:56:18.480 --> 01:56:34.156 Eva: Sorry my cats being crazy back there. One is that I, since I don't think I'm going to be able to get myself together to figure out a new piece of park equipment. I know we had put a big chunk, and I don't know where it went. 1288 01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:47.130 Eva: and for a new for new playground equipment. Yes, so I don't know if we want to take that out for this year and think about putting it in for next year, or. 1289 01:56:47.460 --> 01:56:56.040 Eva: you know, because the we had talked about getting the matching funds from program open space. But the deadline for that is just coming up too fast, and I don't have time to 1290 01:56:56.260 --> 01:56:59.110 Eva: get everything together for that. So. 1291 01:56:59.110 --> 01:57:06.202 Peter Nagrod: Either. If we leave that in there we could move that over to music weekend to get a really good dance. 1292 01:57:07.068 --> 01:57:12.439 Eva: Yeah. So I just thought, I bring that up. If it makes sense to, just. 1293 01:57:12.500 --> 01:57:16.559 Eva: you know, take that out and save it for for hopefully for next year. 1294 01:57:18.100 --> 01:57:26.528 Eva: And then the other thing was that and this is more just a question, because I had submitted the 1295 01:57:27.600 --> 01:57:44.993 Eva: the budget that we came up with with the Rec. Committee and hold on a second and then it. We just noticed that some of the numbers were slightly different, and I mean, I know in the grand schemes thing is probably not a big deal, but the rec committee was just wondering why those numbers changed like I think 1296 01:57:46.160 --> 01:57:50.809 Jean Moyer: Yeah, they change the draft that you saw last month had the same numbers in them. 1297 01:57:51.430 --> 01:57:55.066 Eva: Yeah, I think they didn't notice it until this month, but like 1298 01:57:56.130 --> 01:58:00.763 Jean Moyer: Yeah, overall. You know, the process is, I take all the submissions 1299 01:58:01.180 --> 01:58:05.040 Jean Moyer: and put it together. John and I sit down. We look at 1300 01:58:05.700 --> 01:58:11.399 Jean Moyer: last year what we think the current year is going to be, and just see what has it tended to be. 1301 01:58:11.660 --> 01:58:20.486 Jean Moyer: And then, if there are large increases like I had asked you some questions. Then, I take goes back to John and 1302 01:58:21.350 --> 01:58:25.499 Jean Moyer: We put it into the grand scheme of the entire budget. 1303 01:58:25.550 --> 01:58:38.069 Jean Moyer: and sometimes some things are increased over somebody's submission. Sometimes they're decreased. And so the numbers here is what was there last month? 1304 01:58:39.830 --> 01:58:40.699 Eva: Yeah. Oh, I don't. 1305 01:58:40.700 --> 01:58:43.609 Jean Moyer: Overall. The rent budget actually went up. 1306 01:58:43.850 --> 01:58:44.230 John Compton: Yeah. 1307 01:58:44.723 --> 01:58:49.659 Jean Moyer: So the few tweaks that John and I suggested 1308 01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:56.690 Jean Moyer: that were decreases. Really, even with those the the correct budget, when it was increased so. 1309 01:58:56.690 --> 01:59:08.947 Eva: Okay. Okay, yeah. I think I think maybe there was some concern that in the past people have been spending a lot of their own money, and like not getting reimbursed from the town and 1310 01:59:09.450 --> 01:59:12.870 Eva: that, you know, we wanted to make sure we had the money in the budget, so that 1311 01:59:12.940 --> 01:59:15.880 Eva: people weren't spending their own money on town events. 1312 01:59:17.423 --> 01:59:18.140 Eva: So 1313 01:59:18.160 --> 01:59:18.684 Eva: sorry. 1314 01:59:21.230 --> 01:59:22.060 Peter Nagrod: Is that your cat. 1315 01:59:22.060 --> 01:59:24.829 John Compton: Yeah, look, look, Eva, let me address that. 1316 01:59:24.830 --> 01:59:25.490 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1317 01:59:25.490 --> 01:59:32.650 John Compton: You know, nobody can can anticipate necessarily. You know in detail expenses. 1318 01:59:33.820 --> 01:59:47.869 John Compton: Everybody's a volunteer. It it certainly is is great that people are willing to put up money to support an activity, but they shouldn't feel any hesitation to ask. 1319 01:59:48.540 --> 01:59:53.259 John Compton: can I spend this money? I'm willing to? I I'll front the money. Will I get being. 1320 01:59:53.260 --> 01:59:54.569 Peter Nagrod: English. This is the. 1321 01:59:54.570 --> 02:00:04.880 John Compton: General approach to any volunteer spending. Sometimes it just stays within the committee. I said, Oh, yeah, we have a budget. No problem. Go ahead. 1322 02:00:04.980 --> 02:00:06.750 John Compton: If it exceeds the budget. 1323 02:00:06.770 --> 02:00:10.889 John Compton: then in in a material way, then you talk to the treasurer. 1324 02:00:10.890 --> 02:00:11.320 Eva: Right. 1325 02:00:11.320 --> 02:00:12.330 John Compton: Hey! Look! 1326 02:00:12.330 --> 02:00:12.840 Peter Nagrod: Any. 1327 02:00:12.840 --> 02:00:17.159 John Compton: You, wanna we need to do this. It it literally just takes a phone call or an email. 1328 02:00:17.240 --> 02:00:18.569 John Compton: So nobody, I think I mean. 1329 02:00:18.570 --> 02:00:30.859 Eva: I think I'm just trying to explain why it might have seemed like some of these numbers jumped up is because we're trying to be better about saying, Okay, this is actually how much it costs. This is actually how much was spent. And 1330 02:00:30.910 --> 02:00:35.410 Eva: so, anyway, I'm just speaking for the Rec committee on their behalf, that this was. 1331 02:00:35.410 --> 02:00:38.341 John Compton: Windows here under bail button, here. 1332 02:00:38.830 --> 02:00:40.760 Eva: Hold! Let me get my child under control. 1333 02:00:41.483 --> 02:00:49.960 John Compton: I want. I wanna point out that the Rec committee budget has a new line item called Fan, family program. Maybe it's an old line item. 1334 02:00:49.960 --> 02:00:51.190 Jean Moyer: It's an old one. 1335 02:00:51.190 --> 02:01:12.961 John Compton: All one, and it's it in in a way it it provides funds for a variety of of events that could be could be called the family program. So, you know, if that so if the budget overall is deficient, then we need to hear about. But I, as as 1336 02:01:13.540 --> 02:01:18.026 John Compton: Gene pointed out, it is higher, and I I thought it was in line with what was. 1337 02:01:19.130 --> 02:01:21.190 Peter Nagrod: Hey, John, the one thing that 1338 02:01:21.775 --> 02:01:25.150 Peter Nagrod: maybe somewhere else, is for the clay tennis courts. 1339 02:01:25.280 --> 02:01:26.650 Peter Nagrod: My understanding. 1340 02:01:26.650 --> 02:01:28.899 John Compton: Finish. Can we finish with a row. 1341 02:01:28.900 --> 02:01:30.400 Peter Nagrod: That is part of the rack. 1342 02:01:30.400 --> 02:01:32.270 John Compton: No, it's not what. 1343 02:01:32.700 --> 02:01:34.450 John Compton: No, the clay tennis court is. 1344 02:01:34.450 --> 02:01:43.509 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, we think I'm talking about the sign that we're talking about the signage in the lock. Still. Now, I'm talking about the mate. It says, for the clay tennis courts. My understanding is that 1345 02:01:43.640 --> 02:01:45.640 Peter Nagrod: RJ. Is going to go in 1346 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:48.760 Peter Nagrod: and clean up the courts as far as the. 1347 02:01:49.051 --> 02:01:53.999 John Compton: Wait. We're talking about the rep committee. They don't have anything to do with the play tenure. 1348 02:01:54.000 --> 02:01:56.099 Peter Nagrod: They don't it? Says Clay. Tennis club maintenance. 1349 02:01:56.100 --> 02:01:58.724 John Compton: Their recreation expense. That's not. 1350 02:01:59.560 --> 02:02:00.380 Peter Nagrod: It's what. 1351 02:02:01.050 --> 02:02:12.698 Jean Moyer: It's not part of the Rep committee. It shows up in this part of the accounting system, but the rep committee as a whole doesn't necessarily. 1352 02:02:13.395 --> 02:02:13.660 John Compton: Set. 1353 02:02:13.950 --> 02:02:17.670 Peter Nagrod: Oh, okay, so oh, so that's covered, though. That's okay. So that's. 1354 02:02:17.670 --> 02:02:23.450 Jean Moyer: Yeah, yeah, it's like you have the Woods committee, and they're they show up in the parks budget. 1355 02:02:23.500 --> 02:02:27.860 Jean Moyer: But they have their own budget set aside from F and B. 1356 02:02:28.481 --> 02:02:33.209 Jean Moyer: Multiple committees can feed into an area's budget. 1357 02:02:33.750 --> 02:02:39.980 Jean Moyer: So that's that's why you see that. And I have an easy answer for your question. But let's finish with the rep. 1358 02:02:39.980 --> 02:02:40.826 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Okay. 1359 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:44.919 Eva: Sorry about that. 1360 02:02:45.720 --> 02:02:47.190 John Compton: So it it. 1361 02:02:47.190 --> 02:02:51.980 Robert Gilmore: Sorry this is Rob, since Eva's indicated that she's not going to 1362 02:02:52.730 --> 02:02:54.429 Robert Gilmore: be able to. 1363 02:02:55.090 --> 02:03:00.730 Robert Gilmore: I'm not sure what what? What was involved in spending the money on the playground equipment. 1364 02:03:01.385 --> 02:03:09.500 Robert Gilmore: If that's coming out, can we just restore the original numbers that the Rec. Committee asked for? That were 1365 02:03:10.270 --> 02:03:26.410 Robert Gilmore: a, as I understand it, reduce that I yeah, I heard the same concern from Lisa, but I don't know the specific numbers, but it but it seems like, whatever those probably, you know, line item reductions were in. Other categories are probably gonna be more than made up, for if we are no longer spending. 1366 02:03:26.410 --> 02:03:32.680 Jean Moyer: So that I can tell you there were 3 areas that decreased the Fourth of July. 1367 02:03:32.930 --> 02:03:41.479 Jean Moyer: They asked for 7, 50, and based on prior experience. We thought 500 was enough. We can put an extra 2 50 there. 1368 02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:45.013 Jean Moyer: Labor Day. They had asked for 600. 1369 02:03:45.630 --> 02:03:48.750 Jean Moyer: There were no expenses this year at all. 1370 02:03:49.080 --> 02:03:53.849 Jean Moyer: so we put it to 400. We can increase it by 200 1371 02:03:54.634 --> 02:04:04.950 Jean Moyer: and for the Halloween party they wanted to utilize all of the family program budgeting 1372 02:04:05.400 --> 02:04:08.900 Jean Moyer: and add it to the Halloween party. 1373 02:04:09.392 --> 02:04:35.830 Jean Moyer: And John and I like the idea of keeping the family programs separate. Yes, they could use that money, but we liked the idea because they weren't sure whether they wanted to use the family programs. It was an idea. So we thought it was safer to keep it as a separate line item. And so the Halloween party only came down by $100, so they were very small decreases. 1374 02:04:36.530 --> 02:04:40.980 Jean Moyer: But we can. Yeah. Your idea of taking out of the 35. 1375 02:04:41.756 --> 02:04:42.309 John Compton: I don't. 1376 02:04:43.850 --> 02:04:49.340 Jean Moyer: I don't, you know. That's a possibility. If if the counselor would like to 1377 02:04:49.540 --> 02:04:51.450 Jean Moyer: add back, it's like 1378 02:04:52.060 --> 02:04:55.229 Jean Moyer: $450, we can do that. 1379 02:04:58.200 --> 02:04:58.840 John Compton: Well. 1380 02:05:00.130 --> 02:05:06.290 John Compton: I I wouldn't. I wouldn't be, you know, meant to fall in my sword over the Rec committees Budget request. 1381 02:05:06.360 --> 02:05:10.661 John Compton: But as as I. As I say, we we are. We don't 1382 02:05:11.540 --> 02:05:14.769 John Compton: We have a flexible approach 1383 02:05:15.127 --> 02:05:19.849 John Compton: to spending in the Rec. Committee. If they don't spend it on one, invite. 1384 02:05:19.850 --> 02:05:20.430 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1385 02:05:20.430 --> 02:05:28.999 John Compton: And a using an overspend in another event. That's fine, because that's the the way the plans 1386 02:05:29.673 --> 02:05:44.049 John Compton: and the and the event expenses worked out. So you know, just looking at this, they didn't spend any money on the Labor Day alright. This year they may spend 5, 400. They may spend 600. I don't. We don't know 1387 02:05:44.150 --> 02:05:48.730 John Compton: but they can always take money from this family programs. I mean, there's plenty of flexibility here. 1388 02:05:49.574 --> 02:05:54.179 John Compton: You know, at this point I wouldn't recommend changing any of these numbers. 1389 02:05:54.618 --> 02:06:00.200 John Compton: The 35,000 that is proposed to be removed from the playground equipment. 1390 02:06:00.618 --> 02:06:12.799 John Compton: I agree that can be removed, since even if we get the act together for next year, make the application to program up in space. They won't decide till the very end of the fiscal year 1391 02:06:13.070 --> 02:06:14.450 John Compton: 25. That's 1392 02:06:14.880 --> 02:06:23.200 John Compton: would be June thirtieth. We won't spend that money until fiscal 26. So this doesn't need to be in the fiscal 25 budget 1393 02:06:23.540 --> 02:06:35.939 John Compton: so that can come out. I I think the Rec. Committee is not going to be strapped for any. They they they, you know, unless they had a lot of hidden expenses that nobody asked for reimbursement for 1394 02:06:36.100 --> 02:06:39.719 John Compton: which I started this discussion. That should not happen. 1395 02:06:40.480 --> 02:06:41.700 John Compton: Yeah, I I think. 1396 02:06:41.700 --> 02:06:51.159 Eva: I think I think the if we can just reassure them that if people spend money for a town event they can get reimbursed for it. 1397 02:06:51.240 --> 02:07:03.460 Eva: Then I think that that was a a concern that you know. We wanted to make sure we had it a a line item in the budget so that people could get reimbursed for things. That's it. 1398 02:07:03.670 --> 02:07:07.850 Jean Moyer: Yeah. And Eva, as long as they have receipts. And it's reasonable. 1399 02:07:08.970 --> 02:07:10.529 Jean Moyer: you know. Yeah. 1400 02:07:11.030 --> 02:07:14.669 John Compton: Try to back that off. If you're going to exceed the budget. 1401 02:07:15.060 --> 02:07:34.860 John Compton: just check with the treasurer. You know, this is this is this is typical. This is standard operating procedure in in organizations. They either have rigid budgeting or they have you know, if you exceed, you need approval, and we operate by exceed. You need approval and. 1402 02:07:35.590 --> 02:07:49.738 John Compton: You know, it's it's a simple matter. It shouldn't take a big effort, but it keeps everybody informed. When the you know, when the the Labor Day events are suddenly gonna cost $1,000, maybe for good reason, and everybody's happy with that. 1403 02:07:50.060 --> 02:07:50.960 Peter Nagrod: Meaning of that. 1404 02:07:51.370 --> 02:07:53.600 Eva: Okay, yeah, I think that makes sense. 1405 02:07:54.620 --> 02:07:55.360 Eva: Okay. 1406 02:07:55.730 --> 02:07:58.029 John Compton: Yeah, onto the clay tennis court 1407 02:07:58.440 --> 02:08:00.399 John Compton: issue that Peter raised 1408 02:08:01.660 --> 02:08:02.480 John Compton: Peter. 1409 02:08:02.810 --> 02:08:10.389 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, no, I just. I just didn't know. I just didn't see that number in there. So, as as Gene said it somewhere else. 1410 02:08:10.390 --> 02:08:18.330 Jean Moyer: Yeah, if you look up in the park section, John, if you scroll a little bit, we have a contracted contingency there. 1411 02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:20.250 Jean Moyer: 15,000. 1412 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:21.519 Peter Nagrod: Ok, let you. 1413 02:08:21.979 --> 02:08:29.790 Jean Moyer: It again. It's a little wonky parks recreation altogether, you know. But it's in there. 1414 02:08:29.790 --> 02:08:30.890 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Thanks. 1415 02:08:31.660 --> 02:08:42.249 John Compton: So in case anybody is, has forgotten or or didn't know. This year there were proposals to do, some significant, some some 1416 02:08:42.580 --> 02:08:49.949 John Compton: we spend money on the clay courts to refurbish, you know, in a number of ways, one of which is to replace with new tapes. 1417 02:08:50.180 --> 02:08:50.860 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 1418 02:08:50.860 --> 02:09:07.809 John Compton: The the tapes we've been using for many for a bunch of years. So that costs a chunk both on labor mostly ma much and labor. There's a few other items with respect to the tennis courts, and and and the point is that we have this contracted contingency. 1419 02:09:07.910 --> 02:09:12.537 John Compton: which which is there specifically for this sort of 1420 02:09:13.050 --> 02:09:15.109 John Compton: this sort of expense? 1421 02:09:16.900 --> 02:09:32.039 John Compton: It's not an annual. What? What's happening at the Clay Courts there are some annual routine expenses, but the but the ones Peter is I wanted wanted to be sure was covered were some some extraordinary you know. 1422 02:09:32.150 --> 02:09:33.210 John Compton: periodic. 1423 02:09:36.240 --> 02:09:39.300 Barbara: This is Barbara. Can I ask a question? 1424 02:09:40.550 --> 02:09:43.730 Barbara: So I have a question under 1425 02:09:43.780 --> 02:09:46.499 Barbara: expense for planning and zoning. 1426 02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:48.980 Barbara: The adopted 1427 02:09:49.130 --> 02:09:59.199 Barbara: 24 amount is $47,600, and proposed for Fy. 25 is 76, 400. 1428 02:09:59.730 --> 02:10:03.860 Jean Moyer: Water. Stormwater of 37,000 is the biggest culprit. 1429 02:10:03.860 --> 02:10:04.730 Barbara: Okay. 1430 02:10:05.370 --> 02:10:06.930 Barbara: Alright. Thank you. 1431 02:10:07.400 --> 02:10:08.030 Peter Nagrod: Good. 1432 02:10:10.510 --> 02:10:12.809 John Compton: Oh, yeah, right down here. Yeah. 1433 02:10:18.540 --> 02:10:24.119 John Compton: alright. Any other questions about the budget detail budget detail. 1434 02:10:25.020 --> 02:10:29.456 John Compton: Okay? Great. So let's move along then to the 1435 02:10:32.830 --> 02:10:34.740 John Compton: financial plan. 1436 02:10:39.830 --> 02:10:41.879 John Compton: okay, which is shown. 1437 02:10:43.410 --> 02:10:44.330 Kathy Lehman: As I'm. 1438 02:10:44.860 --> 02:10:46.330 John Compton: Shortly. Here. 1439 02:10:49.040 --> 02:10:50.060 John Compton: Okay. 1440 02:10:54.160 --> 02:11:08.069 Jean Moyer: So the only difference on this one from the one you saw at the last meeting is that for any changes we made to revenue and expenses, I had to filter it through. So the numbers changed accordingly. No big changes really. 1441 02:11:12.530 --> 02:11:15.379 John Compton: Right. So so the features. 1442 02:11:16.110 --> 02:11:18.323 John Compton: let me say, what are the features 1443 02:11:19.170 --> 02:11:21.859 John Compton: in in the in the general fund? 1444 02:11:23.950 --> 02:11:30.039 John Compton: The balance anticipated is 1.4 5 million dollars. 1445 02:11:32.180 --> 02:11:36.929 John Compton: the the expenses were 476,000. 1446 02:11:39.170 --> 02:11:49.420 John Compton: the and notice that that that that is a a net surplus compared to the revenue. So this number has gone up compared to when the year started 1447 02:11:50.440 --> 02:11:51.270 John Compton: year. 1448 02:11:51.380 --> 02:11:54.337 John Compton: So the proposed budget calls for 1449 02:11:54.850 --> 02:11:56.240 John Compton: less revenue. 1450 02:11:56.710 --> 02:12:00.279 John Compton: Then we're actually going to have this year anticipated. 1451 02:12:00.330 --> 02:12:02.480 John Compton: It calls for more expenses 1452 02:12:02.620 --> 02:12:08.740 John Compton: and a deficit. So there will be a that is the 1453 02:12:09.400 --> 02:12:10.014 John Compton: the 1454 02:12:10.740 --> 02:12:13.189 John Compton: line item from the reserve 1455 02:12:14.340 --> 02:12:20.340 John Compton: and so this projection shows the fund balances decreasing 1456 02:12:21.150 --> 02:12:24.160 John Compton: here by a net of one 1457 02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:27.219 John Compton: 100 and about $30,000. 1458 02:12:28.040 --> 02:12:29.689 John Compton: That's just a summary of it. 1459 02:12:34.260 --> 02:12:36.560 John Compton: And the road the road fun we keep 1460 02:12:36.590 --> 02:12:44.479 John Compton: as as seen as as has explained, we keep a separate account, because the State requires a separate account, because we get highway user funds 1461 02:12:44.760 --> 02:12:45.575 John Compton: and 1462 02:12:46.480 --> 02:12:51.700 John Compton: the balance at the beginning, at the beginning of anticipated balance. 1463 02:12:53.530 --> 02:12:56.140 John Compton: If we spend assuming we spend this 1464 02:12:56.320 --> 02:12:57.270 John Compton: amount 1465 02:12:57.510 --> 02:13:01.160 John Compton: here which we have not yet spent, the bulk of that 1466 02:13:01.410 --> 02:13:22.790 John Compton: will be $21,000. The budgeted amount for revenue, which, by the way, the was a big issue in the State Legislature this year, which just concluded. But they restored all the highway user revenue sharing that the governor had proposed striking. 1467 02:13:23.150 --> 02:13:30.870 John Compton: So it's back there. It's not only back there for for the coming year, but it's back there for the next year and the following year at least. 1468 02:13:31.230 --> 02:13:47.799 John Compton: Obviously it still has to be appropriated in those years. But that's good news. So the plan calls for spending the the balance of this fund. I mean the amount we receive next year, which will still leave a positive balance. 1469 02:13:49.130 --> 02:13:50.600 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Good. 1470 02:13:51.340 --> 02:13:55.659 John Compton: Account. Mostly it's for accounting purposes, and to understand 1471 02:13:57.200 --> 02:13:58.330 John Compton: that we have 1472 02:13:58.620 --> 02:14:00.300 John Compton: buns that are earmarked 1473 02:14:00.700 --> 02:14:03.860 John Compton: for road use only. And this is fine. 1474 02:14:04.420 --> 02:14:10.040 Jean Moyer: And we do have to file a report annually with them as to how we, how much we've spent. 1475 02:14:13.230 --> 02:14:15.760 John Compton: Okay, any questions about the financial. 1476 02:14:16.390 --> 02:14:17.030 Peter Nagrod: Nope. 1477 02:14:19.760 --> 02:14:20.320 John Compton: Right? 1478 02:14:21.160 --> 02:14:26.509 John Compton: Okay? So the last item that we just want to review, we should review 1479 02:14:26.790 --> 02:14:28.940 John Compton: is the capital improvement 1480 02:14:29.810 --> 02:14:33.143 John Compton: plan, which we made some adjustments to from 1481 02:14:35.774 --> 02:14:38.440 John Compton: last at the last meeting. So 1482 02:14:39.380 --> 02:14:40.730 John Compton: here is the 1483 02:14:41.090 --> 02:14:42.240 John Compton: plan. 1484 02:14:43.721 --> 02:14:50.028 John Compton: And this is just so that we we we look ahead a bit. We can look ahead and anticipate 1485 02:14:50.550 --> 02:14:54.040 John Compton: expenses in in coming years. 1486 02:14:54.711 --> 02:14:59.790 John Compton: And understand. You know how that might impact the town's finances. 1487 02:15:01.440 --> 02:15:06.769 John Compton: so the expenditures for fiscal 25 which are all in the budget. 1488 02:15:07.390 --> 02:15:08.370 John Compton: Now. 1489 02:15:09.426 --> 02:15:12.973 John Compton: Here, this 35,000 will be 1490 02:15:14.560 --> 02:15:15.440 John Compton: thought one. 1491 02:15:16.970 --> 02:15:19.869 John Compton: Why, it doesn't like me here for some reason. 1492 02:15:19.970 --> 02:15:22.559 John Compton: Why can't I do that? Oh, well, 1493 02:15:25.700 --> 02:15:26.619 John Compton: There's a lot did. 1494 02:15:26.620 --> 02:15:32.990 Jean Moyer: Was the decision to just leave it in the book current and the 25 budget. 1495 02:15:33.430 --> 02:15:34.749 John Compton: Just in case 1496 02:15:34.760 --> 02:15:36.500 John Compton: move it to 26. 1497 02:15:36.500 --> 02:15:39.420 Jean Moyer: Move it to 26, so take it out of the budget. 1498 02:15:40.930 --> 02:15:43.629 John Compton: Take it out. Yeah, we don't know what 26 will be. But yeah. 1499 02:15:43.630 --> 02:15:44.400 Jean Moyer: Alright! 1500 02:15:45.050 --> 02:15:45.730 John Compton: I don't know what. 1501 02:15:48.750 --> 02:15:49.540 John Compton: Okay? 1502 02:15:52.030 --> 02:15:57.220 John Compton: yeah. The bulk of the the bottom line here, which for some reason I'm having trouble. 1503 02:15:57.270 --> 02:16:00.950 John Compton: There we go is the office spending here 1504 02:16:02.080 --> 02:16:02.969 John Compton: up here? 1505 02:16:03.875 --> 02:16:13.899 John Compton: Sorry a strain, storm, drainage, remediation. Now our actual spending may be higher than that. But it. We don't have those funds 1506 02:16:13.990 --> 02:16:18.270 John Compton: in anywhere in accounting. It's the State bond grant. 1507 02:16:18.390 --> 02:16:20.782 John Compton: which is a reimbursement. 1508 02:16:21.670 --> 02:16:33.689 John Compton: we are reimbursement funds so that that we have not accounted for that. We just know that if we if we spend on certain project, we can get reimbursement 1509 02:16:34.940 --> 02:16:36.129 John Compton: from the State 1510 02:16:36.190 --> 02:16:39.869 John Compton: up to $250,000 for the next 5 years. 1511 02:16:40.745 --> 02:16:43.120 John Compton: Yes, they're 2,029 1512 02:16:45.350 --> 02:16:46.299 John Compton: alright! 1513 02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:51.249 John Compton: Any comments then on the on the on the capital Improvement plan. 1514 02:16:51.299 --> 02:16:53.119 John Compton: Everybody's taking a look at it. 1515 02:16:57.000 --> 02:17:00.000 John Compton: Okay? And such it is. 1516 02:17:01.530 --> 02:17:03.109 John Compton: alright. So 1517 02:17:05.459 --> 02:17:13.630 John Compton: We therefore have established. There will be a minor adjust there the only adjustment. We made some adjustments. 1518 02:17:13.870 --> 02:17:16.209 John Compton: Desmond, to the budget that will 1519 02:17:16.770 --> 02:17:19.469 John Compton: affect the use of reserves. 1520 02:17:20.520 --> 02:17:23.910 John Compton: none of the what affects the proposed tax rate. 1521 02:17:24.843 --> 02:17:25.646 John Compton: That 1522 02:17:26.610 --> 02:17:30.589 John Compton: that we we need to adopt, and for that 1523 02:17:30.780 --> 02:17:34.310 John Compton: Gene has prepared a ordinance. 1524 02:17:34.570 --> 02:17:36.070 John Compton: required ordinance. 1525 02:17:36.520 --> 02:17:41.419 John Compton: hopefully took a look at it. You know it's it's pro forma in a way. 1526 02:17:41.450 --> 02:17:53.189 John Compton: We use the same ordinance every year. But what it specifies is shows our anticipated revenue. A a a total accounting 1527 02:17:53.830 --> 02:17:56.090 John Compton: and the expenditures. 1528 02:17:56.129 --> 02:17:57.200 John Compton: and 1529 02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:03.749 John Compton: mainly it. It shows it it. It states that this will be 1530 02:18:03.860 --> 02:18:06.120 John Compton: the tax rate. 1531 02:18:06.600 --> 02:18:07.770 John Compton: etc. 1532 02:18:08.070 --> 02:18:10.739 John Compton: And then there's a tax rate on the 1533 02:18:11.490 --> 02:18:14.180 John Compton: public utility and personal property 1534 02:18:14.770 --> 02:18:16.419 John Compton: business front. So 1535 02:18:17.070 --> 02:18:21.939 John Compton: and it states that for this year the growing tax will be the 170. 1536 02:18:22.610 --> 02:18:27.080 John Compton: Okay, we need a motion to oh, it also states that we are 1537 02:18:27.090 --> 02:18:30.580 John Compton: allocating $30,000 from our reserve 1538 02:18:31.180 --> 02:18:36.389 John Compton: into another fund we keep, which is the border property acquisition reserve. 1539 02:18:36.680 --> 02:18:41.530 John Compton: So which has been building up. It's it's in the financial plan. 1540 02:18:41.820 --> 02:18:50.090 John Compton: and is a bookkeeping accounting of money we have have set aside for specific purpose. In this case. 1541 02:18:50.549 --> 02:18:52.920 John Compton: should we need to acquire 1542 02:18:53.180 --> 02:18:54.660 John Compton: property 1543 02:18:55.660 --> 02:18:56.650 John Compton: for some reason? 1544 02:18:57.379 --> 02:18:59.790 John Compton: Okay, need a motion to approve this, and. 1545 02:18:59.799 --> 02:19:03.119 Kathy Lehman: John, are you sure about that ordinance number. 1546 02:19:03.809 --> 02:19:12.089 John Compton: No, I put one in, because is there been another? What number? I I I have no one, because I couldn't find anything else. 1547 02:19:12.090 --> 02:19:14.735 Kathy Lehman: Okay, I I I will go back to my list. 1548 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:18.360 John Compton: Xxx. It's just I put it in the button, in the in the. 1549 02:19:18.860 --> 02:19:19.620 John Compton: and then it. 1550 02:19:20.930 --> 02:19:30.810 Barbara: So so this is Barbara. I have a question. So if we just agreed to take out the $35,000 for the playground equipment. Doesn't that change some of these numbers. 1551 02:19:31.120 --> 02:19:32.950 Jean Moyer: Yeah, the numbers will change. 1552 02:19:33.270 --> 02:19:36.900 John Compton: You're absolutely right. The use of reserves number. 1553 02:19:38.129 --> 02:19:39.279 Barbara: So how can we. 1554 02:19:39.280 --> 02:19:40.170 John Compton: Have, and. 1555 02:19:40.170 --> 02:19:43.639 Barbara: Move this forward if the number isn't the right number. 1556 02:19:44.180 --> 02:19:45.129 Jean Moyer: Yeah, question. 1557 02:19:45.139 --> 02:19:47.349 John Compton: Yeah, there'll be a couple of numbers that will change. 1558 02:19:49.520 --> 02:19:52.700 Jean Moyer: You could agree to. The rates 1559 02:19:53.770 --> 02:19:55.979 Jean Moyer: won't be changing. 1560 02:19:55.980 --> 02:20:00.430 John Compton: This is an introduction of this ordinance. The actual ordinance will be passed 1561 02:20:00.450 --> 02:20:03.639 John Compton: in May. I have the exact number. 1562 02:20:07.600 --> 02:20:12.209 Jean Moyer: The budget gets in May at the annual town meeting, and 1563 02:20:12.470 --> 02:20:15.260 Jean Moyer: numbers could change at that meeting as well. 1564 02:20:15.260 --> 02:20:20.490 John Compton: Exactly so. These numbers are all for introductory. This is the councils 1565 02:20:21.026 --> 02:20:25.550 John Compton: the the town meeting version of the budget that had these numbers 1566 02:20:25.750 --> 02:20:27.429 John Compton: is what these numbers represent. 1567 02:20:28.130 --> 02:20:33.180 Peter Nagrod: Alright. So, John, I'll make the motion to prep. To approve the proposed 1568 02:20:33.430 --> 02:20:35.760 Peter Nagrod: fiscal year 25 budget. 1569 02:20:36.240 --> 02:20:38.249 Peter Nagrod: Is that correct? Did I say it right. 1570 02:20:38.250 --> 02:20:38.950 John Compton: Yes, bye. 1571 02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:40.080 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1572 02:20:40.080 --> 02:20:42.539 John Compton: Adoption of this coordinates. Thank you. 1573 02:20:44.580 --> 02:20:46.440 John Compton: Any other discussion. 1574 02:20:48.220 --> 02:20:49.770 John Compton: all in favor, then. 1575 02:20:50.290 --> 02:20:52.980 John Compton: with the modifications we've discussed. 1576 02:20:53.510 --> 02:20:56.269 John Compton: you'll have. You'll see whether they 1577 02:20:56.450 --> 02:20:59.349 John Compton: to been done properly when when we get to the town. 1578 02:20:59.880 --> 02:21:02.709 Peter Nagrod: That have to be so seconded. Who was the second. 1579 02:21:02.710 --> 02:21:05.600 John Compton: Yes, it does. It's not a second. About 5 s. 1580 02:21:06.450 --> 02:21:07.220 marywarfield: Second. 1581 02:21:07.500 --> 02:21:08.539 Kathy Lehman: Pardon everyone else. 1582 02:21:08.540 --> 02:21:09.483 marywarfield: Second. 1583 02:21:11.930 --> 02:21:13.650 Kathy Lehman: Sorry. Yeah. 1584 02:21:13.700 --> 02:21:14.780 Kathy Lehman: Okay. Alright. 1585 02:21:15.100 --> 02:21:18.319 John Compton: All paper. Yeah, yeah. Everybody voted. That was unanimous. 1586 02:21:18.480 --> 02:21:19.110 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1587 02:21:19.450 --> 02:21:19.920 John Compton: Okay. 1588 02:21:19.950 --> 02:21:20.740 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1589 02:21:21.100 --> 02:21:23.059 John Compton: Alright. Now let me move on to last 1590 02:21:23.610 --> 02:21:29.573 John Compton: substantive matter, which is the stormwater infrastructure maintenance part 1591 02:21:30.970 --> 02:21:35.261 John Compton: I you know. I'm sure you won't poured over that 1592 02:21:36.350 --> 02:21:38.000 John Compton: great care 1593 02:21:38.140 --> 02:21:48.519 John Compton: and I'm gonna throw it up here, and I'm going to try and highlight what I you know to the best I can the features of the proposed Rfp. 1594 02:21:48.890 --> 02:21:56.700 John Compton: So for one we've we've pushed out the the bidding, bid due date into June. 1595 02:21:57.395 --> 02:22:00.970 John Compton: Assuming we approve the rfp. 1596 02:22:00.990 --> 02:22:06.940 John Compton: Which, by the way, will see a few additional alterations which should be as part of the approval. 1597 02:22:07.320 --> 02:22:18.210 John Compton: a all of which will be either small technical changes or changes to the the portion, the the budget work plan. 1598 02:22:19.370 --> 02:22:22.970 John Compton: part part, which which could perhaps use some 1599 02:22:22.980 --> 02:22:30.450 John Compton: some polishing up to ensure we get the numbers that that most useful budget number proposed budget numbers. 1600 02:22:31.210 --> 02:22:48.839 John Compton: So what we're approving, though, is basically the following, the the group who we've put this together now, from the point of view of similar, quite similar to what we did with the road. With our road paving. 1601 02:22:49.060 --> 02:22:54.080 John Compton: We've identified a whole bunch of areas. 1602 02:22:54.873 --> 02:22:55.566 John Compton: Where? 1603 02:22:56.450 --> 02:22:59.329 John Compton: we're storm water, infrastructure, maintenance. 1604 02:23:00.740 --> 02:23:03.340 John Compton: and notice we calling it maintenance. 1605 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:14.189 John Compton: That's because we don't want to get get to do anything that entails too much permitting from the county. 1606 02:23:14.440 --> 02:23:23.074 John Compton: We may entail some permitting from the county, but that, and that not only cost money, but takes time. So we're calling this a maintenance. 1607 02:23:23.430 --> 02:23:25.190 John Compton: a maintenance. Rfp. 1608 02:23:27.200 --> 02:23:32.370 John Compton: alright! Where was I? Oh, yeah, so we're doing it. We're doing it like we did the road. 1609 02:23:32.799 --> 02:23:37.440 John Compton: Proposal, and we have a map which is going to be the easiest way to. 1610 02:23:37.610 --> 02:23:39.299 John Compton: I can get back to the map. 1611 02:23:39.710 --> 02:23:41.040 John Compton: This map. 1612 02:23:42.830 --> 02:23:44.260 John Compton: I hope you can. 1613 02:23:44.260 --> 02:23:47.009 Patrice Klein: Showing on our screens. John, did you share your screen. 1614 02:23:50.620 --> 02:23:52.177 John Compton: Oh, I'm not sharing the screen yet. 1615 02:23:52.400 --> 02:23:52.780 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1616 02:23:52.780 --> 02:23:53.970 John Compton: That is a problem. 1617 02:23:55.900 --> 02:23:58.770 John Compton: I'm sorry. About 8%. There we go. Here's the map. 1618 02:24:00.135 --> 02:24:08.869 John Compton: So the map, the map points out all the areas we are requesting. work. This is a design built. 1619 02:24:09.935 --> 02:24:18.689 John Compton: Approach. So we are not including detailed specifications of the work done in any of these areas. 1620 02:24:18.750 --> 02:24:24.237 John Compton: What we do, what we do, what we do specify is the sort of 1621 02:24:24.720 --> 02:24:33.019 John Compton: in in general, whether whether we want swell repair, whether we want bio swell proposal. 1622 02:24:33.756 --> 02:24:37.089 John Compton: Whether we're what sort of culvert repair 1623 02:24:37.832 --> 02:24:42.890 John Compton: and and Associated Water Collection and 1624 02:24:42.940 --> 02:24:50.519 John Compton: and outflow. All of that is is those details will. 1625 02:24:50.520 --> 02:24:51.140 Barbara: They expect. 1626 02:24:51.140 --> 02:24:52.500 John Compton: It come from the bidder. 1627 02:24:52.560 --> 02:24:59.190 John Compton: and therefore there'll be an expense associated with that as well as with the construction. 1628 02:24:59.290 --> 02:25:04.269 John Compton: So this map just shows the areas. And you can see all the areas. And I'm just gonna go through 1629 02:25:05.370 --> 02:25:15.569 John Compton: area one up here is the intersection of acorn and chestnut road where we need. We need the the culverts enlarged and replaced 1630 02:25:16.250 --> 02:25:36.689 John Compton: we are as and and and whenever I mentioned coverts, and it includes the the smoke, called the sump, meaning that where the where the water goes into the cupboard where the water comes out. But you'll note this little triangle here, that the proposal is to get a bid. This is a bid, not an approval to do it. 1631 02:25:38.076 --> 02:25:43.533 John Compton: This contemplates a what is called a water quality. 1632 02:25:44.680 --> 02:25:45.660 John Compton: feature. 1633 02:25:46.510 --> 02:25:49.300 John Compton: facility, water, quality, facility. 1634 02:25:49.430 --> 02:25:56.949 John Compton: meaning a, a, an area that would be designed to detain. 1635 02:25:57.300 --> 02:26:01.699 John Compton: detain, re, water, flow and absorb water. 1636 02:26:01.910 --> 02:26:06.289 John Compton: to reduce the flow through the culvert system which crosses Chestnut Road. 1637 02:26:07.500 --> 02:26:17.890 John Compton: currently, at this, it also proposes to remove some of the pavement from this intersection. All, most of you should know that intersection is 1638 02:26:18.080 --> 02:26:20.880 John Compton: overly large in terms of payment. 1639 02:26:21.030 --> 02:26:28.800 John Compton: and at the at the indicated corner. And so the proposal is to take out some of that pavement make that intersection 1640 02:26:28.990 --> 02:26:42.699 John Compton: more similar to the other intersections, such as its center and Chester maybe not quite that narrow, but you know, but but utilize the pavement area as well as the this corner for this water. 1641 02:26:44.199 --> 02:26:46.389 John Compton: this this facility. 1642 02:26:46.560 --> 02:26:54.410 John Compton: Okay, that's the work in that area. So area 2, just going through them. One by one is along Chestnut Avenue, the walkway. 1643 02:26:54.500 --> 02:26:58.969 John Compton: and the proposal there is to improve the swail and replace it. 1644 02:27:01.005 --> 02:27:04.219 John Compton: where appropriate with a bio swell 1645 02:27:04.380 --> 02:27:07.540 John Compton: reminding you what a bio swell is. A bio swell 1646 02:27:07.580 --> 02:27:14.079 John Compton: is a is a constructed well, let me show you. 1647 02:27:14.910 --> 02:27:21.809 John Compton: You probably should all remember what the bias soil is. But here, here's a diagram 1648 02:27:22.266 --> 02:27:32.320 John Compton: of a bios. Well, it basically is a feature that is covered by natural planting, whether it's grass or anything, it could be other things. 1649 02:27:32.510 --> 02:27:37.090 John Compton: but underneath it it has the ability to retain 1650 02:27:37.478 --> 02:27:52.780 John Compton: a lot of water flow, and allowing the water to absorb into the ground that water that doesn't absorb into the ground. There's a pipe in here at the bottom. You'll note the depth of this thing is like 3 feet, or something 4 feet from the surface. 1651 02:27:54.290 --> 02:28:08.890 John Compton: Water would collect in the pipe and be be be be be sent to further down the the system and back on in our case, back out, either into a covered or often just back out onto the surface. 1652 02:28:10.700 --> 02:28:16.779 John Compton: so that's a bio swell, and the net effect would be to absorb a lot more water. 1653 02:28:16.970 --> 02:28:20.920 John Compton: storm water, and certainly to hopefully reduce the flow. 1654 02:28:21.848 --> 02:28:26.220 John Compton: So bio swells are contemplated 1655 02:28:26.310 --> 02:28:30.869 John Compton: along this area of chestnut. This is between where the church 1656 02:28:31.090 --> 02:28:33.859 John Compton: there is an asphalt swell, as. 1657 02:28:33.860 --> 02:28:34.309 Peter Nagrod: And you. 1658 02:28:34.310 --> 02:28:42.440 John Compton: Recall running from Chestnut Road down to Chestnut Avenue, makes a little turn and then runs stems right through this area 1659 02:28:42.530 --> 02:28:45.149 John Compton: our area 7 is indicated 1660 02:28:45.210 --> 02:28:51.519 John Compton: so but but this file swell portion is right here on this part. 1661 02:28:52.532 --> 02:29:13.779 John Compton: here area 2 B is the same thing. But on this section of chestnut. This is the section of chestnut where we have water, a lot of water collection, the center part right where, if you can see where my arrow is is the low point. Water then flows flows between the houses here and this house. This is Bruce 1662 02:29:14.727 --> 02:29:24.420 John Compton: and flows through gene is the recipient of some of this and goes to hickory and then is collected down here and eventually. 1663 02:29:24.817 --> 02:29:27.759 John Compton: hopefully, is supposed to flow out Center Street. 1664 02:29:28.463 --> 02:29:43.790 John Compton: So anyway, bio swell is is is a an improvement of the swales is proposed to. Again. Retain, detain a lot of more water. It will not detain all the water. Water will still cross the. 1665 02:29:43.790 --> 02:29:44.400 Kathy Lehman: I got a. 1666 02:29:44.400 --> 02:29:46.490 John Compton: About where my 1667 02:29:46.600 --> 02:29:48.910 John Compton: about where I'm showing it here. 1668 02:29:48.960 --> 02:29:52.020 John Compton: but the whole system will be improved. 1669 02:29:52.886 --> 02:29:54.854 John Compton: As far as 1670 02:29:55.570 --> 02:30:02.119 John Compton: and hopefully there will be less. It will only see the overflow during really heavy waves 1671 02:30:02.140 --> 02:30:06.829 John Compton: which this system will, of course, not be able to fully mitigate. 1672 02:30:07.130 --> 02:30:21.120 John Compton: That's area 2, 2, A and 2 B area 3. Are these circles here? These are culverts at these intersections. It's improving the culverts and the sums not going to go into that anymore. Area 4 is on the south side of Oak. 1673 02:30:21.240 --> 02:30:25.649 John Compton: There's 4 A and B. It's oak oak between 1674 02:30:26.380 --> 02:30:32.960 John Compton: between Chestnut Road and Chestnut avenue between Chestnut Avenue and hickory. 1675 02:30:33.120 --> 02:30:34.510 John Compton: between Chestnut 1676 02:30:34.970 --> 02:30:48.109 John Compton: Road and Chestnut Avenue. It we we already have a swell, a natural swale. The proposal is to improve that install bio swell, if it's feasible wherever possible. 1677 02:30:48.230 --> 02:30:51.080 John Compton: It will then cross the avenue. 1678 02:30:51.410 --> 02:30:55.639 John Compton: you know, probably in a pipe and then 1679 02:30:56.390 --> 02:30:59.048 John Compton: between chess and avenue and 1680 02:31:00.100 --> 02:31:13.420 John Compton: and hickory. We have some asphalt, and we're asking for a proposal to create a swell or bio swell. That remote involves removing asphalt from this area as well. 1681 02:31:13.918 --> 02:31:18.700 John Compton: This is a proposal. I'm not going to go into the details. It will affect parking. 1682 02:31:18.710 --> 02:31:24.309 John Compton: but it's it. We we want to get a cost on making this improvement, since we have 1683 02:31:24.410 --> 02:31:28.860 John Compton: a significant amount of water being collected down. Oak. 1684 02:31:28.900 --> 02:31:35.149 John Compton: lot of it is flowing on the chest that we don't want Pat. We want to try and mitigate that. So that's the other area for the bid. 1685 02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:40.049 John Compton: 5 area 5 south side of Centre Street 1686 02:31:40.290 --> 02:31:44.424 John Compton: pretty much the same story, except the asphalt is up here. 1687 02:31:45.260 --> 02:31:45.900 Peter Nagrod: Boom. 1688 02:31:47.090 --> 02:31:48.443 John Compton: Across from 1689 02:31:49.200 --> 02:31:55.839 John Compton: the their house here, the former Kurt's house, and so removing some asphalt 1690 02:31:55.910 --> 02:31:59.489 John Compton: and installing a swell or bioswale 1691 02:32:01.950 --> 02:32:06.559 John Compton: as well as then the past Chestnut Avenue 1692 02:32:06.690 --> 02:32:20.539 John Compton: area 6 area 6. Is this rectangle here? This is where it was the the Sultan study suggested a gravel wetlands could be installed. This is a significant feature. 1693 02:32:20.810 --> 02:32:27.189 John Compton: Again, a water detention, facility, a water quality, facility. 1694 02:32:27.806 --> 02:32:47.000 John Compton: It would tear up all of the the pavement would utilize the area to again. Co, collect water, slow it down, absorb it, but then pass it on. We currently goes into the woods. So that's that S area 6 area 7 1695 02:32:47.814 --> 02:32:50.180 John Compton: area 7 is a similar feature. 1696 02:32:51.363 --> 02:33:04.799 John Compton: A. A. Entering into this narrow area where the current asphalt swail runs between these these homes, and there there is looks to be room to put in 1697 02:33:05.203 --> 02:33:22.369 John Compton: a water quality feature between roughly between Chestnut Avenue for maybe a hundred feet 125 feet it would it would include then a walkway. To be sure, you could still walk here, because I know many people use this as the only way to walk across this block here. 1698 02:33:22.370 --> 02:33:23.120 Peter Nagrod: Give it. 1699 02:33:24.528 --> 02:33:26.440 John Compton: Okay. So area 8, 1700 02:33:26.850 --> 02:33:30.409 John Compton: Mary 8 is back here up at Chestnut Road. 1701 02:33:30.540 --> 02:33:32.390 John Compton: It's below the park. 1702 02:33:33.661 --> 02:33:40.719 John Compton: and proposes to improve this swail to carry the water from the 1703 02:33:40.780 --> 02:33:45.290 John Compton: west side. Sorry of chestnut 1704 02:33:45.820 --> 02:33:48.239 John Compton: road down to center. 1705 02:33:48.410 --> 02:33:54.520 John Compton: and then into this improved system in the magenta with the magenta line. 1706 02:33:55.128 --> 02:34:01.110 John Compton: That involves removing an existing believe it or not, as fault swell, you know, along 1707 02:34:01.907 --> 02:34:05.529 John Compton: along that exists here along the road. 1708 02:34:05.670 --> 02:34:08.410 John Compton: So that's area 8 for improvement. 1709 02:34:08.650 --> 02:34:11.020 John Compton: The last one is area 9, 1710 02:34:11.382 --> 02:34:13.710 John Compton: why is area 9 still on here? 1711 02:34:16.030 --> 02:34:16.830 John Compton: oh, yeah. 1712 02:34:18.130 --> 02:34:23.909 John Compton: Yeah. Area 9 is this is to improve the culboard system. At, and I forgot 1713 02:34:24.340 --> 02:34:24.920 John Compton: area. 1714 02:34:24.920 --> 02:34:28.180 Patrice Klein: The sump over there is is all clogged and stuff right? They. 1715 02:34:28.180 --> 02:34:29.190 John Compton: Yeah, exactly. 1716 02:34:29.190 --> 02:34:31.400 Patrice Klein: Replaced it after the electric chargings. 1717 02:34:31.400 --> 02:34:37.246 John Compton: But the yeah, the the culverts been taken care of, but the sumps, the entries. So 1718 02:34:37.630 --> 02:34:39.712 John Compton: that's the proposal that area. And I, 1719 02:34:41.560 --> 02:34:49.160 John Compton: okay. So, as you can see, there's a lot of parts to this. All of that is described in the Rfp. Up here. 1720 02:34:49.490 --> 02:34:51.340 John Compton: Get back up to the top. 1721 02:34:51.510 --> 02:34:55.120 John Compton: You will say that each of these areas has their 1722 02:34:55.170 --> 02:34:56.810 John Compton: as their description 1723 02:34:56.850 --> 02:34:58.070 John Compton: in here. 1724 02:34:59.830 --> 02:35:13.969 John Compton: and etc, we go into the scope of work. We've added a variety of things, including some some requesting calculations of water, flow before and after the installation of of some of the features 1725 02:35:14.586 --> 02:35:30.850 John Compton: and addressed a a good many if not all, of the discussion we had where Bob was Babur was pointing out, and was suggesting that we improve the information we get so that we can evaluate 1726 02:35:32.340 --> 02:35:34.237 John Compton: which of these 1727 02:35:35.230 --> 02:35:41.089 John Compton: various areas to actually are, which our funding would support and will make sense to do 1728 02:35:42.420 --> 02:35:43.530 John Compton: we do not. 1729 02:35:43.870 --> 02:35:47.550 John Compton: In no way will we have the funds to do all of this work. 1730 02:35:48.250 --> 02:35:49.710 John Compton: but we 1731 02:35:49.760 --> 02:35:53.830 John Compton: expect to have funds to do significant part of the work 1732 02:35:54.421 --> 02:35:56.770 John Compton: and which we can then choose. 1733 02:35:56.860 --> 02:36:00.550 John Compton: based on the on the bids and the proposals. 1734 02:36:01.185 --> 02:36:01.580 Peter Nagrod: Hit. 1735 02:36:03.110 --> 02:36:26.840 John Compton: So that's the strategy. This is the current version which is virtually complete. We've addressed almost everybody's concerns. It could use a little bit of polishing here and there, just to be sure that you know we've covered, we get what we want. Oh, I forgot to point out 2 other things. One is that anybody bidding on this will be required to do an onsite walk through 1736 02:36:27.654 --> 02:36:34.219 John Compton: prior to submitting their bids so that we can go over the details in all of these areas. 1737 02:36:34.260 --> 02:36:37.706 John Compton: and we will. We will produce a written 1738 02:36:38.550 --> 02:36:44.770 John Compton: a written document, so that everybody has a or at least notes from that walkthrough. 1739 02:36:45.050 --> 02:36:50.885 John Compton: So everybody is bidding on the same thing, and and and all the specifics that we 1740 02:36:51.310 --> 02:36:55.279 John Compton: we can discuss and point out will have been pointed out. 1741 02:36:56.410 --> 02:36:57.230 John Compton: and 1742 02:36:57.890 --> 02:36:59.169 John Compton: the the 1743 02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:17.930 John Compton: bidders will be invited to present their proposal to the Council. So, before awarding the contract, we plan to hear from the bidders as to mostly to provide an opportunity for questioning 1744 02:37:18.529 --> 02:37:26.260 John Compton: concerning their their plans. Remember, this is a design build. So you know, there can be some 1745 02:37:26.440 --> 02:37:31.729 John Compton: some differences between between contractor proposals. 1746 02:37:32.970 --> 02:37:33.710 Peter Nagrod: okay. 1747 02:37:35.800 --> 02:37:41.420 John Compton: Alright, I'm gonna stop talking but but we put a lot of work into this when I say we 1748 02:37:42.140 --> 02:37:47.240 John Compton: I mean I mean Patty Klein Bob Boer 1749 02:37:47.964 --> 02:38:05.330 John Compton: myself. Dave Coast, on Joan has been present. Go through a lot of this, and Jason Mills with from Sultes, who has been advising us and on on the technical aspects, so that we we get enough of it right? That we will get some some useful 1750 02:38:05.610 --> 02:38:14.450 John Compton: input. He has pre pre identified at least 2, probably 3 vendors who will be interested in bidding on this? 1751 02:38:15.344 --> 02:38:18.895 John Compton: We think it's substantial enough to interest hopefully. 1752 02:38:20.960 --> 02:38:22.360 John Compton: contractors. 1753 02:38:22.710 --> 02:38:28.209 John Compton: we, the the the timing of of doing the work 1754 02:38:28.930 --> 02:38:38.679 John Compton: we think, is flexible. It it would be great to get it done by the end of fiscal 25. That is June of of 25. But if it isn't, it isn't 1755 02:38:38.960 --> 02:38:43.489 John Compton: for the purposes of the funding we we simply need to have a contract in place 1756 02:38:43.670 --> 02:38:45.420 John Compton: to spend our funds. 1757 02:38:45.974 --> 02:38:48.580 John Compton: By the end of this year. 1758 02:38:49.730 --> 02:38:52.189 John Compton: By the way, our funds can 1759 02:38:52.370 --> 02:38:55.590 John Compton: include the State bond funds 1760 02:38:55.950 --> 02:38:59.350 John Compton: which would will support the same sort of work. 1761 02:39:00.130 --> 02:39:06.640 John Compton: So in reality we have approximately $750,000 available. 1762 02:39:07.430 --> 02:39:16.359 John Compton: We do not have to spend this the State Bond funds we do have to spend the Arpa fund, so we do have to spend about 500,000, but it could be up to 750,000. 1763 02:39:18.020 --> 02:39:18.630 Peter Nagrod: Hey! 1764 02:39:19.780 --> 02:39:21.550 John Compton: Alright any questions. 1765 02:39:27.170 --> 02:39:34.830 John Compton: Okay, I. We made serious effort to to to create something that will give us enough information to 1766 02:39:36.740 --> 02:39:42.517 John Compton: no matter what we can. We we choose to do will improve water. Stormwater 1767 02:39:43.580 --> 02:39:54.830 John Compton: stormwater system will renovate. The existing system, which, as we all know, has deteriorated just over time and and other things. I see, Patty. 1768 02:39:55.030 --> 02:39:57.479 John Compton: I would like to say something. Go ahead. 1769 02:39:57.650 --> 02:40:10.880 Patrice Klein: Yeah, no, just a. It's a quick question on the logistics. I don't remember how it stated in here, but in order to schedule that on site visit. Will they just call the town office, call Kathy and schedule the. 1770 02:40:10.880 --> 02:40:11.240 John Compton: Yes. 1771 02:40:11.240 --> 02:40:15.172 Patrice Klein: Need a town representative to be there. Just wanna make sure. 1772 02:40:15.862 --> 02:40:21.506 John Compton: The intent is to to get everybody together and do one walk through. So everybody is present. 1773 02:40:23.030 --> 02:40:30.260 John Compton: yes. Jason recommended that. He didn't think there was any there there was any concern about, you know. 1774 02:40:31.010 --> 02:40:36.120 John Compton: One contractor reviewing, just saying something, and and a walkthrough 1775 02:40:36.320 --> 02:40:39.986 John Compton: that would provide put them at a disadvantage or something. But 1776 02:40:40.330 --> 02:40:44.096 John Compton: I I'm trying to find what you're you've requested, but you know. 1777 02:40:44.410 --> 02:40:45.760 Patrice Klein: Boilerplate language. I. 1778 02:40:45.760 --> 02:40:47.224 John Compton: It's not. It's here. 1779 02:40:48.333 --> 02:40:52.519 John Compton: there's also a place about questions. Bid evaluation. 1780 02:40:53.830 --> 02:40:57.220 John Compton: We're we're we're aiming to award the contract in July. 1781 02:40:59.205 --> 02:41:12.000 John Compton: It can slip from that. But that's current. If if we issue the Rfp. In the next week or so, then we believe we've have. We've left enough time for a the site. Visit 1782 02:41:12.070 --> 02:41:15.000 John Compton: questions and bidding 1783 02:41:15.280 --> 02:41:18.500 John Compton: between sort of the end of April and 1784 02:41:19.180 --> 02:41:20.639 John Compton: beginning of July. 1785 02:41:22.860 --> 02:41:27.041 Peter Nagrod: So so, John, I would. I would just like to say that 1786 02:41:27.430 --> 02:41:29.850 Peter Nagrod: Having read this final version. 1787 02:41:29.880 --> 02:41:32.869 Peter Nagrod: I was really impressed and delighted 1788 02:41:33.070 --> 02:42:00.709 Peter Nagrod: with what Patty, you Dave, and yeah, Joan and Bob and Steven, whatever whoever else you did to make this I want. I was involved with this in the beginning, before I was kicked out, and it was a mess. It was like the whole grove. And you really, when you look at that diagram. It looks so simple and so easy. But I know you put a lot of work into this and very comprehensive. And I really liked the changes that you came up with at the end. 1789 02:42:00.940 --> 02:42:02.310 Peter Nagrod: So thank you. 1790 02:42:05.160 --> 02:42:08.359 Patrice Klein: It's John's map. You can congratulate him. It's very nice. 1791 02:42:08.360 --> 02:42:10.669 Peter Nagrod: Well, you got sent to street on there down at the bottom. 1792 02:42:10.750 --> 02:42:15.389 Peter Nagrod: Venezuela. So that's that's what I was really. That's what I love to see. 1793 02:42:17.040 --> 02:42:17.730 John Compton: Right. 1794 02:42:18.468 --> 02:42:22.724 John Compton: I didn't. I didn't thank you, Peter. 1795 02:42:24.810 --> 02:42:26.030 Robert Gilmore: Sorry. Go go ahead! 1796 02:42:26.030 --> 02:42:30.430 John Compton: A sec. I just want to point out the evaluation we we've specified. 1797 02:42:30.530 --> 02:42:35.245 John Compton: because, you know, contractors want to know what you know, how they're going to be. 1798 02:42:36.000 --> 02:42:38.520 John Compton: you know how how they're they're. 1799 02:42:39.380 --> 02:42:42.579 John Compton: It is going to be evaluated. So that's in here as well 1800 02:42:43.064 --> 02:42:46.910 John Compton: a large, a fair amount of it notices and cost. 1801 02:42:47.290 --> 02:42:52.959 John Compton: So, leaving us flexibility we need, because this proposal 1802 02:42:53.431 --> 02:42:56.448 John Compton: this, this Rfp is going to generate. 1803 02:42:56.900 --> 02:43:01.570 John Compton: you know, a a way over our current budget. 1804 02:43:01.750 --> 02:43:02.700 John Compton: but 1805 02:43:02.860 --> 02:43:09.529 John Compton: will give us will give us a much, a very good idea of what to aim for if we in in in getting funds 1806 02:43:10.570 --> 02:43:11.440 John Compton: for 1807 02:43:11.820 --> 02:43:16.820 John Compton: for this and for the west loops, which is going to be substantial. But but 1808 02:43:16.970 --> 02:43:18.470 John Compton: that's for another day. 1809 02:43:19.650 --> 02:43:20.380 John Compton: Okay. 1810 02:43:21.110 --> 02:43:30.659 Robert Gilmore: I I I had a question, so I I don't know if it was 2 or 3 meetings ago when bob or brought up his concern that the 1811 02:43:30.860 --> 02:43:34.070 Robert Gilmore: with the prior iteration didn't have 1812 02:43:35.202 --> 02:43:37.579 Robert Gilmore: kind of metrics. 1813 02:43:37.810 --> 02:43:39.960 Robert Gilmore: or require 1814 02:43:40.382 --> 02:43:48.229 Robert Gilmore: you know, metrics to ensure that that what we're doing actually is going to make a difference. So is is 1815 02:43:48.560 --> 02:43:52.410 Robert Gilmore: I. I gather he was. Yeah, I think you said he was working with you. It was this. 1816 02:43:53.060 --> 02:43:54.480 Robert Gilmore: This now reflects 1817 02:43:54.650 --> 02:43:57.140 Robert Gilmore: his, and and address his concerns. 1818 02:43:58.880 --> 02:44:03.830 John Compton: We? Yeah. So I'm I'm gonna speak for Bob, cause he's not here. He's 1819 02:44:04.340 --> 02:44:05.520 John Compton: vacation. Yeah. 1820 02:44:06.770 --> 02:44:14.400 John Compton: But what Bob, Bob? Bob? But what Bob had said was, you know, from an engineering standpoint 1821 02:44:14.460 --> 02:44:15.669 John Compton: was lacking. 1822 02:44:15.860 --> 02:44:17.550 John Compton: We, we all agree. 1823 02:44:17.930 --> 02:44:19.110 John Compton: is lacking. 1824 02:44:19.380 --> 02:44:20.110 John Compton: but 1825 02:44:20.240 --> 02:44:22.200 John Compton: it's lacking, because. 1826 02:44:22.330 --> 02:44:25.329 John Compton: as we discovered in the case of the West Woods. 1827 02:44:25.510 --> 02:44:30.760 John Compton: A an assessment of the 1828 02:44:31.940 --> 02:44:33.180 John Compton: in detail. 1829 02:44:34.348 --> 02:44:37.340 John Compton: But just the design and engineering 1830 02:44:37.360 --> 02:44:40.970 John Compton: would be in the many, many hundreds of thousands of dollars. 1831 02:44:41.300 --> 02:44:46.210 John Compton: That's the first point. Secondly, we have to spend our money now. We we don't have time. 1832 02:44:46.210 --> 02:44:46.580 Robert Gilmore: Yeah. 1833 02:44:46.580 --> 02:44:47.370 John Compton: To 1834 02:44:47.560 --> 02:44:52.210 John Compton: track and do that. So what could we do to at least? 1835 02:44:52.340 --> 02:44:54.429 John Compton: And and his point is. 1836 02:44:54.460 --> 02:44:58.900 John Compton: you know, how, how can we? How can we determine what 1837 02:44:59.923 --> 02:45:04.540 John Compton: will have an impact on our our positive impact? 1838 02:45:04.550 --> 02:45:25.609 John Compton: And how much of an impact will it happen? So that's been inserted in there. There have been metrics inserted in all those water return wa water quality feet facilities. There are calculations re required to show what the impact of that will be the bio swells. Same thing. What the impact of a bio swell 1839 02:45:25.720 --> 02:45:52.449 John Compton: will have on that area compared to the the standard evaluation which salt has did in in certain areas. But now we're gonna call for it in very specific areas on the existing on the calculated water, water, stormwater run off. They base it on a in a, on a hundred year, flood, or whatever number of years it is. There's a whole. 1840 02:45:52.500 --> 02:45:59.678 John Compton: you know, approach to doing this. And so we've requested that information. That's part of the the bidding the bid 1841 02:46:00.448 --> 02:46:03.221 John Compton: part of part of what we need to get 1842 02:46:03.859 --> 02:46:08.350 John Compton: after we pay or so they'll do that, or before we get it more. So 1843 02:46:08.670 --> 02:46:13.449 John Compton: yeah, we've we've addressed that. I think Bob has resigned himself, that you know. Okay. 1844 02:46:13.610 --> 02:46:21.809 John Compton: we aren't. We aren't able to do this in the most systematic way. But we've we've done what we can to. 1845 02:46:22.310 --> 02:46:23.060 John Compton: you know. 1846 02:46:23.470 --> 02:46:26.100 John Compton: have what we need to make a A, 1847 02:46:26.180 --> 02:46:27.750 John Compton: you know, get the best 1848 02:46:27.890 --> 02:46:30.789 John Compton: result for the funds we need to spend. 1849 02:46:31.810 --> 02:46:32.480 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1850 02:46:32.680 --> 02:46:34.749 Robert Gilmore: And and Soltz is confident that 1851 02:46:34.870 --> 02:46:38.559 Robert Gilmore: when we get the calculations 1852 02:46:38.981 --> 02:46:41.650 Robert Gilmore: that are supposed to now accompany the 1853 02:46:41.690 --> 02:46:43.390 Robert Gilmore: proposals 1854 02:46:43.960 --> 02:46:47.139 Robert Gilmore: working with them, we'll be able to evaluate. 1855 02:46:47.260 --> 02:46:51.629 Robert Gilmore: Okay, do do we think that the the proposal 1856 02:46:51.900 --> 02:46:52.850 Robert Gilmore: will 1857 02:46:53.060 --> 02:46:53.880 Robert Gilmore: eat them? 1858 02:46:54.840 --> 02:46:57.160 Robert Gilmore: Address essentially 1859 02:46:57.696 --> 02:47:04.500 Robert Gilmore: and and and and actually provide the kind of remediation that we are expecting. 1860 02:47:06.930 --> 02:47:09.600 John Compton: I'm I'm not sure I can speak for them 1861 02:47:10.280 --> 02:47:11.280 John Compton: quite that 1862 02:47:11.800 --> 02:47:14.119 John Compton: directly, but 1863 02:47:15.070 --> 02:47:21.330 John Compton: you know Jason Mills is understands quite well what the town 1864 02:47:21.810 --> 02:47:26.269 John Compton: would like to happen, and but our issues are. 1865 02:47:27.040 --> 02:47:31.240 John Compton: and he has stated repeatedly 1866 02:47:32.010 --> 02:47:32.860 John Compton: that 1867 02:47:34.950 --> 02:47:37.720 John Compton: Many of these most of this work. 1868 02:47:37.760 --> 02:47:39.680 John Compton: even the work that simply 1869 02:47:41.449 --> 02:47:43.049 John Compton: re restores 1870 02:47:43.478 --> 02:47:51.050 John Compton: our swells, even if you didn't put in bio swells, and whatever which would see a significant improvement in town. 1871 02:47:51.770 --> 02:47:53.250 John Compton: it wouldn't. 1872 02:47:54.620 --> 02:47:58.770 John Compton: It wouldn't improve the situation in the West Woods. 1873 02:47:59.550 --> 02:48:02.014 Robert Gilmore: Right? No, we I understand. Yeah, I think we all understand. 1874 02:48:02.220 --> 02:48:07.529 John Compton: That's the second thing, and that the idea there is to is to detain the water. 1875 02:48:07.570 --> 02:48:12.860 John Compton: and, you know, deliver less water to the West woods. Unfortunately. 1876 02:48:14.440 --> 02:48:16.960 John Compton: as I think we'll all agree. 1877 02:48:17.100 --> 02:48:21.459 John Compton: The the estimated amount of water going into the west woods from 1878 02:48:21.620 --> 02:48:23.540 John Compton: this, that side of town 1879 02:48:24.190 --> 02:48:33.129 John Compton: of the total water flowing into the Westwoods that has caused the eroding problems that the problems there with the ditch, the big major ditch 1880 02:48:33.290 --> 02:48:36.219 John Compton: is maybe 20 or 25% of the water. 1881 02:48:36.540 --> 02:48:44.559 John Compton: So if we can cut that by a half, we've reduced it by 10 or 15%. That's not going to solve the West woods problem. 1882 02:48:46.230 --> 02:48:51.999 John Compton: No way can this solve the Westwood's problem. The only way you can solve the westwards problem is by addressing other inflows 1883 02:48:52.630 --> 02:48:53.730 John Compton: and 1884 02:48:53.820 --> 02:49:05.979 John Compton: creating a, you know, creating a water, a water retention system that won't be so detrimental or essentially will eliminate damage to the woods 1885 02:49:07.180 --> 02:49:08.930 John Compton: that's a different project. 1886 02:49:10.140 --> 02:49:12.800 Robert Gilmore: Right? No, I understand. We we understand that. Yeah. 1887 02:49:13.390 --> 02:49:17.329 John Compton: Okay, I I I think we'll see a significant improvement in town. 1888 02:49:17.330 --> 02:49:18.520 Robert Gilmore: That's right. That's. 1889 02:49:18.775 --> 02:49:19.540 John Compton: All the problem. 1890 02:49:19.570 --> 02:49:27.239 John Compton: Yeah, I can guarantee you that the the people complaining about water in their backyards off of chess and avenue 1891 02:49:27.680 --> 02:49:34.489 John Compton: are still gonna have that problem. Because when we get enough rain, this system is not going to handle it. And you're still gonna get 1892 02:49:35.026 --> 02:49:38.840 John Compton: water runs running through their area, but that 1893 02:49:38.910 --> 02:49:44.080 John Compton: there are ways to approach that. But it can't be part of this project to be part of the next project. 1894 02:49:44.080 --> 02:49:44.700 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1895 02:49:45.240 --> 02:49:47.060 John Compton: If the town wants to get involved. 1896 02:49:47.620 --> 02:49:48.740 John Compton: Private property. 1897 02:49:50.890 --> 02:49:51.640 John Compton: Well, okay. 1898 02:49:51.640 --> 02:50:01.049 Patrice Klein: Just make a quick comment. I think actually, they will see some improvement, because putting the swail or bio swell on chestnut AV. And on Chestnut Road. I'm sorry. 1899 02:50:01.070 --> 02:50:03.569 Patrice Klein: and as well on Chestnut Avenue 1900 02:50:03.600 --> 02:50:10.409 Patrice Klein: that's going to catch a lot of that sheeting water before it actually gets to some of those properties 1901 02:50:10.490 --> 02:50:15.139 Patrice Klein: below Chestnut Avenue, we're trying to, you know. Catch it upstream a little bit more. 1902 02:50:15.430 --> 02:50:21.089 Patrice Klein: and it has been so. I still think there will be, so I'll say qualitative. But there'll be some improvement 1903 02:50:21.110 --> 02:50:23.620 Patrice Klein: across the board, and hopefully. 1904 02:50:23.620 --> 02:50:24.510 Robert Gilmore: So that makes sense. 1905 02:50:24.510 --> 02:50:29.589 Patrice Klein: Water going so rapidly into the west. Woods are trying to slow it down right. 1906 02:50:30.266 --> 02:50:31.219 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Okay. 1907 02:50:31.220 --> 02:50:32.571 Patrice Klein: That's my 2 cents. 1908 02:50:36.400 --> 02:50:37.870 Robert Gilmore: Do we need a motion to. 1909 02:50:37.870 --> 02:50:38.910 John Compton: Yes, we need a motion. 1910 02:50:38.910 --> 02:50:40.160 Peter Nagrod: Yes, like a motion. 1911 02:50:40.160 --> 02:50:41.240 Robert Gilmore: I move. 1912 02:50:41.903 --> 02:50:42.590 Peter Nagrod: Second is. 1913 02:50:43.460 --> 02:50:50.185 John Compton: Alright, all in favor. And and once again we're voting on. Thank you. Alright! Looks like unanimous. 1914 02:50:50.871 --> 02:50:55.179 Kathy Lehman: I don't have any language for the I just somebody just said motion. 1915 02:50:55.470 --> 02:50:58.010 Kathy Lehman: Can I get more. 1916 02:50:58.010 --> 02:51:04.853 Robert Gilmore: Motion to approve issuance of the stormwater infrastructure maintenance. Rfp. As. 1917 02:51:07.380 --> 02:51:08.410 Kathy Lehman: Okay. Thank you. 1918 02:51:09.570 --> 02:51:13.997 John Compton: Yeah, we're gonna tweak it a little bit more, and then then then then then see what we got. 1919 02:51:15.250 --> 02:51:19.439 John Compton: I think we've left enough time in case we have some. 1920 02:51:20.400 --> 02:51:28.190 John Compton: you know, inadequate response, or whatever to to to fall back and reconfigure. I don't. 1921 02:51:28.210 --> 02:51:31.900 John Compton: I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna presume we don't have to do that. But 1922 02:51:32.240 --> 02:51:38.490 John Compton: you know it's this is a bit a first for this for the for Washington growth. So we have to 1923 02:51:38.910 --> 02:51:40.130 John Compton: have to 1924 02:51:40.230 --> 02:51:41.360 John Compton: be aware of 1925 02:51:41.760 --> 02:51:42.460 John Compton: now 1926 02:51:42.560 --> 02:51:44.269 John Compton: we we could face 1927 02:51:44.650 --> 02:51:55.772 John Compton: still some other challenge. Remember, we got our bid on the West Woods just for a study, and the the 2. The 2 bids were like over $300,000. 1928 02:51:59.160 --> 02:52:00.640 John Compton: Okay, thank you so much. 1929 02:52:00.640 --> 02:52:07.559 Robert Gilmore: Yeah, no big thanks and kudos for all who were involved in putting this together. This was a lot of work. 1930 02:52:09.310 --> 02:52:10.130 Robert Gilmore: Yep. 1931 02:52:10.130 --> 02:52:18.350 John Compton: No, it's been. It's been a learning experience for all of us. But I I I think we're now at a place where hopefully, we'll be able to 1932 02:52:18.480 --> 02:52:20.259 John Compton: see some improvements by 1933 02:52:20.270 --> 02:52:21.459 John Compton: carrying it forward. 1934 02:52:22.010 --> 02:52:22.900 John Compton: Okay, 1935 02:52:24.490 --> 02:52:25.960 John Compton: going back to our agenda. 1936 02:52:25.960 --> 02:52:26.680 Kathy Lehman: And. 1937 02:52:26.970 --> 02:52:30.169 John Compton: I'm skipping right over new business too late for new business. 1938 02:52:32.340 --> 02:52:38.542 John Compton: The town Council reports. I put some things of note. Is there anything that is 1939 02:52:39.921 --> 02:52:50.699 John Compton: worth? I'm just gonna look through this to see whether I need to report on anything here. No additional playground. That's what 1940 02:52:51.170 --> 02:52:52.870 John Compton: we already dealt with it. 1941 02:52:53.330 --> 02:52:55.449 John Compton: 12 trees to be planted in April. 1942 02:52:58.690 --> 02:53:04.288 John Compton: okay, yeah. So I I you know, unless somebody has anything they want to say about their reports. 1943 02:53:04.600 --> 02:53:06.399 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I would say one thing. 1944 02:53:06.830 --> 02:53:15.539 Peter Nagrod: which it's taken forever is that Fourth Avenue between Mccauley and Washington Grove Lane has finally been 1945 02:53:15.730 --> 02:53:24.869 Peter Nagrod: paved, fixed up. Signs are up. It's welcoming. It looks beautiful, and I've seen people walking on it without tripping, and I think that 1946 02:53:26.220 --> 02:53:29.419 Peter Nagrod: that I'm I'm very happy with how that came out. 1947 02:53:31.687 --> 02:53:34.612 Peter Nagrod: and Paula Paula left. During that. 1948 02:53:36.740 --> 02:53:38.220 John Compton: She's there. 1949 02:53:39.400 --> 02:53:40.230 John Compton: Alright! 1950 02:53:42.290 --> 02:53:46.410 John Compton: alright. So motion to approve posting and council reports, please. 1951 02:53:48.150 --> 02:53:50.489 Peter Nagrod: So moved, second. 1952 02:53:50.730 --> 02:53:51.380 John Compton: Okay. 1953 02:53:52.610 --> 02:53:55.480 John Compton: Alright. All in favor of posting the council reports. 1954 02:53:56.030 --> 02:53:58.919 John Compton: Thank you. All. That's unanimous. 1955 02:53:59.250 --> 02:54:09.350 John Compton: Right? Okay, that brings us to the the minutes I sent around the minutes of March eleventh. I think I got a few comments which I 1956 02:54:09.820 --> 02:54:13.345 John Compton: I incorporated into the minutes. 1957 02:54:14.060 --> 02:54:26.239 John Compton: so I need a motion to approve the March eleventh minutes. This is the open session minutes will comment on the closed session. We had March eleventh. 1958 02:54:27.880 --> 02:54:28.440 Barbara: But 1959 02:54:28.770 --> 02:54:29.470 Barbara: oh! 1960 02:54:29.820 --> 02:54:31.819 John Compton: Those minutes are 1961 02:54:32.280 --> 02:54:34.240 John Compton: also closed. 1962 02:54:36.360 --> 02:54:56.880 John Compton: but they are a matter of record, and I have prepared those minutes. And a a. This is not a pretty, very serious, and remember, it was legal advice concerning neglected maintenance of properties. And so I prepared those minutes. I'm gonna file them with with Kathy. So that we've we've we've 1963 02:54:57.010 --> 02:55:04.388 John Compton: prostate's and out of the eyes for the closed closed meeting. But this the March eleventh meeting for the open session. 1964 02:55:04.900 --> 02:55:07.289 John Compton: you all had a chance to look at hopefully, so. 1965 02:55:09.290 --> 02:55:11.129 Barbara: Motion to approve Barbara. 1966 02:55:11.662 --> 02:55:13.260 marywarfield: I'll second Mary. 1967 02:55:14.070 --> 02:55:15.360 John Compton: Any other 1968 02:55:15.410 --> 02:55:18.109 John Compton: comments on the 1969 02:55:19.250 --> 02:55:20.290 John Compton: the minutes. 1970 02:55:20.290 --> 02:55:20.680 Peter Nagrod: Yep. 1971 02:55:21.660 --> 02:55:22.700 Peter Nagrod: Reason good. 1972 02:55:23.200 --> 02:55:24.710 John Compton: Thank you all in favor 1973 02:55:25.180 --> 02:55:27.880 John Compton: of approving the minutes. That's unanimous. 1974 02:55:27.930 --> 02:55:34.469 John Compton: Right? I I'm sorry I had in tissue. I had hoped to get the there's still some outstanding minutes. 1975 02:55:34.590 --> 02:55:37.400 John Compton: The February 20, seventh meeting, which 1976 02:55:37.610 --> 02:55:39.140 John Compton: was largely 1977 02:55:40.090 --> 02:55:45.700 John Compton: a discussion public input on the Catherine Hall naming. 1978 02:55:46.230 --> 02:55:48.679 John Compton: and the march 20 fifth minutes. 1979 02:55:49.466 --> 02:55:57.749 John Compton: Which was the budget work session as well as the adu. Passing the adu orders so 1980 02:55:58.240 --> 02:56:01.909 John Compton: those will be forthcoming for the May Twentieth 1981 02:56:02.180 --> 02:56:03.330 John Compton: Council meeting. 1982 02:56:03.790 --> 02:56:04.690 John Compton: for sure. 1983 02:56:06.760 --> 02:56:15.429 John Compton: Right? Alright! So we are at German no. First, the next meetings, the May. The the town meeting. 1984 02:56:15.620 --> 02:56:21.329 John Compton: May eleventh. At 8 Kathy sent around a reminder that everyone 1985 02:56:21.810 --> 02:56:32.570 John Compton: I have to talk to rob particularly everyone needs to submit an annual an annual report on your areas of responsibility 1986 02:56:33.321 --> 02:56:43.689 John Compton: written, which we distributed to resonance. And then, all of you are present and accept questions concerning your reports. 1987 02:56:44.270 --> 02:56:48.130 John Compton: For this is this is annual covers. Obviously the whole year. 1988 02:56:48.300 --> 02:56:50.320 Peter Nagrod: What! When do you need that? By John. 1989 02:56:50.530 --> 02:56:54.369 John Compton: Oh, yeah, right? So it's the meetings may eleventh 1990 02:56:54.460 --> 02:57:02.649 John Compton: like to get them up and available. So let's say, May that Monday or Tuesday. So whatever that is so. 1991 02:57:02.710 --> 02:57:04.430 John Compton: sex theft or sex. 1992 02:57:04.700 --> 02:57:05.840 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Thanks. 1993 02:57:05.950 --> 02:57:06.700 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1994 02:57:08.200 --> 02:57:15.720 Paula Puglisi: Sometimes you've asked the committee to do like an end of the year thing, or just report on accomplishment. But you didn't last year. I don't think 1995 02:57:15.810 --> 02:57:17.530 Paula Puglisi: is that gonna happen. 1996 02:57:19.069 --> 02:57:27.109 John Compton: Well, I haven't looked at the agenda for the you are you? Are you referring to actually actual presentations at the town meeting? 1997 02:57:27.110 --> 02:57:31.403 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. Well, at some years that you asked me to do that, and some years. 1998 02:57:31.964 --> 02:57:35.259 John Compton: I have to look at the I haven't put together the agenda. 1999 02:57:35.260 --> 02:57:36.000 Paula Puglisi: But okay. 2000 02:57:36.270 --> 02:57:37.910 John Compton: I'll be in touch. 2001 02:57:38.370 --> 02:57:38.940 Paula Puglisi: Dip. 2002 02:57:38.940 --> 02:57:42.613 John Compton: That seems to be the right. You know the the the thing 2003 02:57:44.570 --> 02:57:48.440 John Compton: alright, and I will remind everybody, and we'll the meeting will be virtual. 2004 02:57:48.970 --> 02:57:50.779 John Compton: We decided that tonight. 2005 02:57:51.184 --> 02:57:55.299 John Compton: Okay. And now we, if we set the May twentieth meeting. 2006 02:57:55.550 --> 02:57:58.909 John Compton: any anybody else, have anything else before we adjourn. 2007 02:58:01.620 --> 02:58:03.760 John Compton: Alright motion to adjourn. 2008 02:58:04.630 --> 02:58:05.780 Robert Gilmore: I move to adjourn. 2009 02:58:06.000 --> 02:58:08.142 John Compton: Okay, thank you all for hanging. 2010 02:58:10.490 --> 02:58:11.080 John Compton: What a lot. 2011 02:58:11.080 --> 02:58:12.839 Peter Nagrod: Now, okay. Yeah. 2012 02:58:12.840 --> 02:58:13.490 marywarfield: Night. 2013 02:58:13.490 --> 02:58:14.870 Kathy Lehman: You, hey, Ryan? 2014 02:58:15.130 --> 02:58:15.880 Kathy Lehman: Nice.