WEBVTT 1 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:10.590 John Compton: Good evening. 2 00:01:21.510 --> 00:01:22.760 Peter Nagrod: Hey! Everybody. 3 00:01:23.410 --> 00:01:24.919 John Compton: Hi, everybody! 4 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:19.070 John Compton: Hmm! 5 00:02:28.650 --> 00:02:30.860 John Compton: And I was surprised. 6 00:02:53.770 --> 00:02:55.475 Kathy Lehman: Just one week. You, too cheese 7 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:00.340 Kathy Lehman: anything particularly? Yeah. 8 00:03:00.340 --> 00:03:01.710 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I got. 9 00:03:02.310 --> 00:03:04.729 Kathy Lehman: Where we go. Okay, we're going to 10 00:03:05.350 --> 00:03:12.669 Kathy Lehman: continue house because it's a big house there. Hi, John, can you hear me? 11 00:03:12.670 --> 00:03:13.530 John Compton: Yeah. 12 00:03:13.530 --> 00:03:14.010 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's. 13 00:03:14.010 --> 00:03:17.709 Kathy Lehman: Alrighty great. 14 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:21.440 John Compton: Louder, and Claire. 15 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:34.189 Kathy Lehman: How good is this? Feels great, feels great, very excited for you in your future, and excited to see what family members you come up with in your new house. 16 00:03:40.640 --> 00:03:43.050 Kathy Lehman: We chose Bartendam House. 17 00:04:11.810 --> 00:04:12.490 Kathy Lehman: Aston. 18 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.669 Peter Nagrod: I've got this dress. Great. 19 00:04:31.330 --> 00:04:35.239 Stephen Shannon & Shannon Chambers: I'm not sure how I became a Co. Host, but I absolutely don't. 20 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:36.460 Peter Nagrod: One. 21 00:04:36.580 --> 00:04:39.230 Peter Nagrod: and we don't want you to be one. 22 00:04:39.230 --> 00:04:40.950 John Compton: You've been. You've been rejected. 23 00:04:40.950 --> 00:04:42.210 Stephen Shannon & Shannon Chambers: Moderator, either. 24 00:04:43.330 --> 00:04:44.780 John Compton: Been rejected. Don't. 25 00:04:50.320 --> 00:04:53.640 John Compton: Jed, is the Co. Host. I I clicked on the wrong. 26 00:04:53.730 --> 00:04:55.909 John Compton: Obviously the wrong person wrong. 27 00:04:55.910 --> 00:04:57.779 Peter Nagrod: The wrong job. Yet. 28 00:04:57.780 --> 00:04:58.669 John Compton: Yeah. 29 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:01.130 John Compton: that could be. 30 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:05.850 John Compton: Alright! But. 31 00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:38.399 Peter Nagrod: 1, 2, 3. 32 00:05:41.870 --> 00:05:43.659 Peter Nagrod: So we're missing Mary 33 00:05:44.200 --> 00:05:45.280 Peter Nagrod: and Rob. 34 00:05:45.550 --> 00:05:46.160 Peter Nagrod: There's like. 35 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:46.650 John Compton: Down there. 36 00:05:46.650 --> 00:05:48.260 Peter Nagrod: And Eva. Oh, Mary's here! 37 00:05:48.260 --> 00:05:49.890 John Compton: Rob will not be here. 38 00:05:49.890 --> 00:05:51.750 Peter Nagrod: And so just, Eva. Right 39 00:05:52.310 --> 00:05:52.830 Peter Nagrod: it is. 40 00:05:52.830 --> 00:05:54.580 Barbara: And she might be late. Remember. 41 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.199 John Compton: Yes, she did say she might be right. 42 00:05:57.200 --> 00:05:58.060 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 43 00:06:01.650 --> 00:06:03.359 John Compton: what did I do with the dang? 44 00:06:05.652 --> 00:06:06.857 John Compton: Yeah, really, 45 00:06:10.690 --> 00:06:12.710 John Compton: And I put that on. 46 00:07:29.420 --> 00:07:30.320 John Compton: Dang it! 47 00:07:44.500 --> 00:07:45.250 John Compton: Thereafter 48 00:08:00.350 --> 00:08:03.490 John Compton: we'll get started in just a moment, everybody. Hold on! 49 00:08:03.710 --> 00:08:04.430 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 50 00:08:45.660 --> 00:08:46.350 John Compton: Okay. 51 00:08:46.620 --> 00:08:47.340 Peter Nagrod: 9. 52 00:08:47.340 --> 00:08:49.150 John Compton: Welcome everybody 53 00:08:51.160 --> 00:08:54.922 John Compton: to the June Town Council meeting. 54 00:08:55.820 --> 00:08:57.306 John Compton: Rob Gilmore 55 00:08:58.230 --> 00:09:00.139 John Compton: had a 56 00:09:00.150 --> 00:09:03.840 John Compton: is a medical emergency, not him. 57 00:09:03.950 --> 00:09:08.189 John Compton: and he won't won't be at the meeting, so we'll be. 58 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:08.840 Peter Nagrod: Open. 59 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:10.704 John Compton: Working with everybody else. 60 00:09:11.270 --> 00:09:16.230 John Compton: like everyone else, is here. E. Oh, avo! Said she 61 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:20.235 John Compton: was on her own with the kids, and we'd get on as soon as she 62 00:09:20.670 --> 00:09:22.160 John Compton: of a 63 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:24.530 John Compton: hypnotize them. Just 64 00:09:27.790 --> 00:09:30.859 John Compton: we don't know how that is. Any of us know how that is. 65 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:32.400 Peter Nagrod: Hide. 66 00:09:32.990 --> 00:09:35.489 Peter Nagrod: motion, motion to approve the agenda. 67 00:09:39.160 --> 00:09:40.899 John Compton: You think that's the next step? Okay? 68 00:09:40.900 --> 00:09:45.399 Peter Nagrod: Isn't that the next day? I don't know. It always has been. He didn't really. 69 00:09:45.400 --> 00:09:47.541 Kathy Lehman: Usually call it to order. 70 00:09:47.970 --> 00:09:52.067 John Compton: Officially officially called the the meeting to order 71 00:09:52.580 --> 00:09:53.653 Peter Nagrod: Please, do. 72 00:09:54.190 --> 00:09:59.927 John Compton: So I'm gonna I'm gonna show the agenda and just go run through a few 73 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.908 John Compton: minor adjustments that were made 74 00:10:06.170 --> 00:10:07.510 John Compton: that 75 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:14.649 John Compton: in the interim since the last one was posted should be. You should be viewing the agenda now. 76 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:23.479 John Compton: so i i i finally found out it was Chris Blosskey, who is in the kudos area 77 00:10:23.790 --> 00:10:30.280 John Compton: music weekend, June 20, June 23, rd not the 15th 78 00:10:30.930 --> 00:10:35.890 John Compton: and lastly, I added, under new business. 79 00:10:37.082 --> 00:10:51.609 John Compton: this item. Flexibility to schedule the annual town meeting proposal to change the town charter, to allow the town Council to schedule the annual election and annual town meeting anytime on the second Saturday of May. 80 00:10:53.370 --> 00:10:54.190 John Compton: Adam. 81 00:10:54.970 --> 00:10:56.755 John Compton: I added this 82 00:10:58.970 --> 00:11:04.249 John Compton: as a just as an indication that it'll be on that I don't think we'll have. 83 00:11:04.400 --> 00:11:06.660 John Compton: but we're not thoroughly prepared to 84 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.839 John Compton: propose an exact charter amendment chain charter change. 85 00:11:12.020 --> 00:11:15.519 John Compton: I wanted to get it on here for a future council meeting. So 86 00:11:15.986 --> 00:11:21.679 John Compton: as I said here in this addition, proposed as a future agenda agenda. Item. 87 00:11:22.358 --> 00:11:25.430 John Compton: This putting it on the Council's radar. 88 00:11:25.910 --> 00:11:29.380 John Compton: So those are the only changes. That I put on 89 00:11:29.550 --> 00:11:34.459 John Compton: so agendas open any additional comments from anybody. 90 00:11:35.140 --> 00:11:37.190 Peter Nagrod: Isn't somebody supposed to second my motion? 91 00:11:37.530 --> 00:11:38.200 John Compton: Now. 92 00:11:38.805 --> 00:11:39.160 Peter Nagrod: Now. 93 00:11:39.160 --> 00:11:44.770 John Compton: Course I don't allow second, you know, from the town meeting I don't allow second. 94 00:11:44.770 --> 00:11:46.490 Peter Nagrod: Did you get, did you? Where's that, Robert? Rule. 95 00:11:46.490 --> 00:11:46.785 Kathy Lehman: Time 96 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:47.777 Peter Nagrod: I mean you. 97 00:11:48.010 --> 00:11:49.962 Barbara: This is Barbara. Second. 98 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:55.700 John Compton: Alright, so it's been seconded alright. Any other any comments on the agenda then. 99 00:11:55.700 --> 00:11:56.260 Peter Nagrod: No. 100 00:11:57.583 --> 00:12:01.120 John Compton: If not all in favor approving this agenda. 101 00:12:01.700 --> 00:12:02.200 Peter Nagrod: Aye. 102 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.880 John Compton: That's all. 4 of you. Fine. Thank you. 103 00:12:05.510 --> 00:12:07.140 John Compton: Remove that. 104 00:12:07.560 --> 00:12:11.189 John Compton: and we'll move on to 105 00:12:11.270 --> 00:12:12.920 John Compton: personal appearances. 106 00:12:13.250 --> 00:12:14.780 John Compton: Public appearances. 107 00:12:16.230 --> 00:12:21.370 John Compton: As always, anybody who is here, and has a public appearance on a subject. 108 00:12:21.410 --> 00:12:30.649 John Compton: It's not on the agenda. This is your time to speak. If it is on the agenda we'll be sure. 109 00:12:30.780 --> 00:12:33.690 John Compton: Be sure to recognize you at that. At that time. 110 00:12:34.650 --> 00:12:35.890 John Compton: Anybody here 111 00:12:36.587 --> 00:12:40.410 John Compton: anything to appear about okay. Terrific. 112 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:41.840 John Compton: But I'm sorry. 113 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:46.080 Liz Everhart: Yeah, hey? It's Liz i i i just had something to that to say. 114 00:12:46.280 --> 00:12:47.310 John Compton: Yeah, okay. 115 00:12:47.773 --> 00:12:52.939 Liz Everhart: I was just gonna suggest that if we have the chat function on during a meeting. 116 00:12:53.090 --> 00:12:55.250 Liz Everhart: that it should be archived. 117 00:12:55.450 --> 00:13:01.420 Liz Everhart: But if you guys prefer not to have the chat as a distract distraction, then it should be 118 00:13:01.430 --> 00:13:04.170 Liz Everhart: disabled, because people will use the chat 119 00:13:05.030 --> 00:13:06.769 Liz Everhart: and then, if you know, it's. 120 00:13:07.300 --> 00:13:11.980 Liz Everhart: you know. Now we can see the transcripts from the meetings and read minutes, but 121 00:13:12.190 --> 00:13:15.110 Liz Everhart: I think that the the chat should also be archived. 122 00:13:15.110 --> 00:13:22.880 John Compton: I should have disabled the chat between attendees. The only chat allowed is to the host and go. 123 00:13:23.175 --> 00:13:24.059 Liz Everhart: To the house. 124 00:13:24.060 --> 00:13:25.330 John Compton: I believe that. 125 00:13:25.330 --> 00:13:26.040 Liz Everhart: Yeah, right. 126 00:13:26.040 --> 00:13:27.329 John Compton: Have have 127 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:30.809 John Compton: approved. Yeah, it is a distraction. I mean. 128 00:13:31.210 --> 00:13:34.129 Liz Everhart: That I just checked it is so, yeah, good. Okay, thanks. 129 00:13:34.130 --> 00:13:35.480 John Compton: Okay, awesome. 130 00:13:37.860 --> 00:13:42.149 John Compton: alright. Thank you, Liz. Any other personal or public appearance here. 131 00:13:42.420 --> 00:13:45.539 Peter Nagrod: Oh, can I? Can I make a personal thing. 132 00:13:45.680 --> 00:13:46.140 John Compton: No. 133 00:13:46.140 --> 00:13:50.300 Peter Nagrod: Taking off my hat. Yes, I can, can I? I just wanna what. 134 00:13:51.930 --> 00:13:54.930 John Compton: This is really for others, but go ahead. 135 00:13:54.930 --> 00:14:07.693 Peter Nagrod: Oh, there aren't any other, any others. And this is just about those I can. I forget the name of those flies. This is really the Patty and Georgette. But it's a town thing. Because I saw I saw those that thing that went on with serve today about those invasive flies. 136 00:14:07.930 --> 00:14:08.910 John Compton: Turn, flag. 137 00:14:08.910 --> 00:14:09.950 Peter Nagrod: Lynn. Thank you. 138 00:14:09.950 --> 00:14:11.569 Liz Everhart: That wasn't 1 here, though. 139 00:14:12.060 --> 00:14:28.511 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I know. But I just wanna say that at my house in Mount Airy over the last 2 weeks. I didn't know what they were. But there are hundreds of them all over the place, I mean everywhere. They're all over me. It's like unbelievable. And I I sent the picture out. So I'm just 140 00:14:28.880 --> 00:14:35.019 Peter Nagrod: you know, hoping that we're okay. But Patty and Georgette and John. 141 00:14:35.020 --> 00:14:37.419 Patrice Klein: They've been moving southward for years. They're all over. 142 00:14:37.420 --> 00:14:37.860 Peter Nagrod: Oh, really. 143 00:14:37.860 --> 00:14:39.699 Patrice Klein: Celia about a year ago. Yeah. 144 00:14:39.930 --> 00:14:41.350 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, okay. I'm done. John. 145 00:14:41.350 --> 00:14:43.789 Patrice Klein: Program in Pennsylvania hasn't worked. 146 00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:45.030 Patrice Klein: Thank you. 147 00:14:45.820 --> 00:14:47.110 Peter Nagrod: I'm done, John. Thank you. 148 00:14:47.110 --> 00:14:51.047 John Compton: Okay? Right? So in addition to the 149 00:14:52.140 --> 00:14:56.299 John Compton: lightning bugs, we're gonna have lantern. But 150 00:14:57.172 --> 00:15:02.669 John Compton: i i i'm sorry I shouldn't joke about a serious ecological issue. But 151 00:15:03.220 --> 00:15:04.680 John Compton: what else can we do? 152 00:15:05.920 --> 00:15:06.850 John Compton: alright. 153 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:12.070 John Compton: So we'll move from public appearances on to the treasures. Report 154 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:12.900 John Compton: that 155 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:19.873 John Compton: was in in in the materials. Jane is here to 156 00:15:20.980 --> 00:15:23.930 John Compton: Talk about the the financials! Jane. 157 00:15:24.090 --> 00:15:32.099 Jean Moyer: Yeah, other than the comments that are embedded in the report. The only thing I'll mention we're 158 00:15:32.670 --> 00:15:49.860 Jean Moyer: humming along well, with revenue coming in as expected. So that's always a steady flow. But you wanna keep your eye on it. As to the expenses as is the trend 159 00:15:50.593 --> 00:15:56.750 Jean Moyer: many areas are under budget, and some are getting close to being 160 00:15:57.660 --> 00:16:04.950 Jean Moyer: where you know the whole budget might be used up by June, so I'll be keeping an eye 161 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.069 Jean Moyer: on 162 00:16:07.920 --> 00:16:10.920 Jean Moyer: Each category is 163 00:16:10.940 --> 00:16:20.630 Jean Moyer: for Chris and any others who might not remember. We can't go over budget in any one major area 164 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:23.357 Jean Moyer: without an ordinance. 165 00:16:24.560 --> 00:16:33.332 Jean Moyer: I don't anticipate that situation happening. But I'm gonna keep my eye on a few particular areas. 166 00:16:34.410 --> 00:16:35.270 Jean Moyer: and 167 00:16:36.210 --> 00:16:47.199 Jean Moyer: just. I don't think we'll have a problem, but gotta watch it. We have one more month to go and it's particularly in the Rec area recreation area 168 00:16:48.600 --> 00:17:03.099 Jean Moyer: the 100 and 50th aid up a lot more expense. But of the budget than anticipated, it was offset with the revenue that came in on the T-shirts and and and whatnot. 169 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:11.520 Jean Moyer: But it does sort of impact that budget. And we're headed into the season the last month when 170 00:17:12.285 --> 00:17:17.395 Jean Moyer: the salaries. Kick back in for life for the summer in the 171 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:30.290 Jean Moyer: The tennis workers. Summer in parks is not until July. So that's good. So I'm gonna keep an eye on that but overall, I think we'll be fine. 172 00:17:30.320 --> 00:17:32.809 Jean Moyer: Just want to keep an eye on that 173 00:17:33.366 --> 00:17:37.049 Jean Moyer: and that is really the key 174 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:39.689 Jean Moyer: points I wanted to point out 175 00:17:39.940 --> 00:17:41.610 Jean Moyer: for this month. 176 00:17:41.610 --> 00:17:44.320 Peter Nagrod: What does? What is? What do you mean by a major? 177 00:17:44.450 --> 00:17:45.130 Peter Nagrod: Oh, yeah. 178 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:47.920 Jean Moyer: They look like within recreation 179 00:17:48.596 --> 00:18:01.730 Jean Moyer: that is considered a major area where it says, like, there's a grand total there. Historic preservation is a key area, the lake the parks and 180 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:06.644 Jean Moyer: the financial administration executive. Those are considered the key areas. 181 00:18:07.070 --> 00:18:10.079 Peter Nagrod: So it's not. Oh, so, Major, you're not referring. You're referring 182 00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:17.300 Peter Nagrod: to the expense, not to the total amount, like, like 1010% over is major, 7%. Okay, that's not what you're saying. 183 00:18:17.300 --> 00:18:18.380 Jean Moyer: No, no, you. 184 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:18.980 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 185 00:18:18.980 --> 00:18:23.759 Jean Moyer: Yeah, you're you're you've got to stay within the major area. So each line. 186 00:18:23.760 --> 00:18:24.500 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 187 00:18:24.790 --> 00:18:26.396 Jean Moyer: You know, can fluctuate 188 00:18:27.330 --> 00:18:44.640 Jean Moyer: and as you see, the 100 and 50th is, you know, eating up, whereas there are like family programs hasn't been spent. Labor day was not spent, but we have the art night was unplanned, and the 100 and 50th 189 00:18:44.750 --> 00:18:49.415 Jean Moyer: went higher than Budget, even though it was covered by revenue. 190 00:18:51.207 --> 00:18:53.949 Jean Moyer: We we don't want to see 191 00:18:54.050 --> 00:18:57.199 Jean Moyer: total recreation go more than 25,000. 192 00:18:58.060 --> 00:19:13.950 Peter Nagrod: Uhhuh, okay? And what just one of the question for the committees, if we have mu money budgeted for this year, is there any way that, like we, if we have a project we want to do that's under 5,000. Is there a way to begin that and carry over those funds or not? 193 00:19:13.950 --> 00:19:16.049 Jean Moyer: You can't carry over any funds now. 194 00:19:16.050 --> 00:19:18.119 Peter Nagrod: Cannot, and there's no way of doing that. 195 00:19:18.120 --> 00:19:18.740 Jean Moyer: Yeah. 196 00:19:18.740 --> 00:19:19.980 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Thanks. 197 00:19:19.980 --> 00:19:20.300 Jean Moyer: Yeah. 198 00:19:21.370 --> 00:19:27.289 John Compton: The only way it carries over is if we commit the funds to a to a you know. 199 00:19:27.710 --> 00:19:30.690 John Compton: not right, not necessarily a contract, but to a 200 00:19:30.850 --> 00:19:34.989 John Compton: well, often it's a contract. So, for example, we're probably going to do that. 201 00:19:35.590 --> 00:19:37.700 John Compton: and they end up doing that for the roadwork. 202 00:19:38.585 --> 00:19:38.960 Jean Moyer: We. 203 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:40.749 John Compton: Down until July. We will. 204 00:19:40.750 --> 00:19:42.210 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's got. 205 00:19:43.710 --> 00:19:47.060 John Compton: executed contract before the end of the fiscal year. 206 00:19:47.800 --> 00:20:00.859 Jean Moyer: But we do usually get an invoice like with the roadwork. Last year, when we had the same situation, we did get a like a starter invoice that showed that there was some work done in that physical. 207 00:20:00.860 --> 00:20:01.820 Peter Nagrod: Still here. 208 00:20:01.820 --> 00:20:05.799 Jean Moyer: And that allowed us to use that year's budget. 209 00:20:06.530 --> 00:20:10.520 Jean Moyer: And then the subsequent year went to date. Next, yeah. 210 00:20:11.910 --> 00:20:13.160 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Thanks. 211 00:20:14.840 --> 00:20:16.936 Jean Moyer: And that that's really 212 00:20:18.650 --> 00:20:20.110 Jean Moyer: The amount of 213 00:20:20.970 --> 00:20:26.609 Jean Moyer: attention, I think. Yeah, I know we have a full agenda. I don't wanna belabor this too much. 214 00:20:29.030 --> 00:20:30.819 Jean Moyer: Any other questions. 215 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:38.620 John Compton: Okay. If not, we need a motion to accept the May treasures report. 216 00:20:40.520 --> 00:20:41.880 marywarfield: I'll move Mary. 217 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:43.747 Peter Nagrod: Second 2 seconds. 218 00:20:44.250 --> 00:20:47.969 John Compton: Seconds, and any all in favor. 219 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:50.390 John Compton: That's 4 220 00:20:50.610 --> 00:20:53.399 John Compton: alright treasurer's report is accepted. 221 00:20:55.510 --> 00:21:00.059 John Compton: Next item of business, which I moved up, but I meant to move it down. Sorry 222 00:21:00.769 --> 00:21:04.269 John Compton: we'll just handle it. This is the march 25th 223 00:21:06.970 --> 00:21:07.990 John Compton: minutes 224 00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:11.034 John Compton: which were in in in the 225 00:21:12.660 --> 00:21:17.470 John Compton: in, in, in the materials Barbara pointed out one 226 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.880 John Compton: editing error. The meeting started at 7 30, not at 6 30. I made that change. 227 00:21:23.526 --> 00:21:33.570 John Compton: So we need a motion to approve the march 25th minutes, and if you were not there like, if you were not on the council like Chris. 228 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.579 John Compton: you can, you can abstain 229 00:21:37.870 --> 00:21:41.840 John Compton: from this, because what do you know about the march? 25th 230 00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:43.180 John Compton: minute? 231 00:21:44.120 --> 00:21:44.460 John Compton: Meeting. 232 00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:45.780 Barbara: So moved Barbara. 233 00:21:45.780 --> 00:21:47.860 John Compton: Thanks, Barbara. Second. 234 00:21:48.120 --> 00:21:48.780 marywarfield: Mary. 235 00:21:48.780 --> 00:21:52.558 John Compton: Great thanks any other comments. Hopefully. You had a chance to write it. Read it 236 00:21:53.430 --> 00:21:59.990 John Compton: all in favor approving the march 25th minutes. Thank you. That's 3 to 0 reading nothing. 237 00:22:00.517 --> 00:22:07.249 John Compton: I had hoped to have the April 16th meeting minutes, but I don't. 238 00:22:07.810 --> 00:22:09.760 Kathy Lehman: My bad. I'm sorry I don't. 239 00:22:09.810 --> 00:22:11.840 Kathy Lehman: You know. I don't know what happened, but. 240 00:22:12.242 --> 00:22:13.850 John Compton: For the crash! I. 241 00:22:13.850 --> 00:22:15.010 Kathy Lehman: And my office. 242 00:22:15.230 --> 00:22:18.236 John Compton: Kathy was very efficient with the May 21, st 243 00:22:19.840 --> 00:22:20.250 John Compton: bye. 244 00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:28.820 John Compton: but but I haven't had a chance to finish them, and you know that the May 21st minutes were just a weekend week and a half ago. 2 weeks. I'm sorry. 2 and a half. 245 00:22:29.730 --> 00:22:35.590 John Compton: so we'll handle those in July I trust, plus the minutes for 246 00:22:36.310 --> 00:22:37.370 John Compton: today's meeting. 247 00:22:38.850 --> 00:22:43.140 John Compton: Okay, move on to the mayor's report. 248 00:22:43.610 --> 00:22:51.640 John Compton: Well, everybody, I'm happy to be able to hand out a bunch of kudos for this past month 249 00:22:51.950 --> 00:22:56.710 John Compton: we'll start with the the town's weed warrior work party 250 00:22:57.553 --> 00:23:12.860 John Compton: who worked with with spat natural resources. Specialists from Montgomery Parks in the Conservation meadow along Ridge Road to remove unwanted. I call them unwanted. They're really unnative, invasive 251 00:23:12.950 --> 00:23:13.750 John Compton: plants. 252 00:23:14.660 --> 00:23:16.240 John Compton: and 253 00:23:16.760 --> 00:23:32.399 John Compton: did did a yeoman's job. They're they're going to be planning additional hope efforts. In the future, I believe. But to all of the 14 resident volunteers who were there. That's a fantastic turnout. 254 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:42.340 John Compton: and they owe we all owe them our gratitude for their volunteer efforts. 255 00:23:43.720 --> 00:24:12.139 John Compton: Then I have to mention the Council members, Peter, as well as the other organizers and contributors of To Circle Fest 22,024, which was hard to believe, but it was better than last year even, that's not to say last year wasn't great, but they updated themselves this year, and the town certainly appreciated. There were a lot of people attended circle fest. 256 00:24:12.520 --> 00:24:18.290 John Compton: and this is, you know, as long as the Circle people are willing to 257 00:24:18.830 --> 00:24:21.581 John Compton: share their time and organizational efforts. 258 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.350 John Compton: then, this is a great 259 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:29.719 John Compton: annual event in the making. So 260 00:24:30.490 --> 00:24:31.890 John Compton: terrific guy 261 00:24:33.930 --> 00:24:38.320 John Compton: much more recently with the the the the. 262 00:24:38.430 --> 00:24:39.750 John Compton: Whether that 263 00:24:39.790 --> 00:24:42.349 John Compton: generated the tornado. 264 00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:50.451 John Compton: Tornado near the town. We also had some some limbs, and what have you down? But 265 00:24:50.920 --> 00:25:03.190 John Compton: Bruce Rothrock, Terry Cox, Felmento, Bruce price, and Chris Blosskey went out to the lake to clear some tree damage the limb 266 00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:16.900 John Compton: fell, I I think, and I'm not sure whether an entire tree was affected. But they took it upon themselves to clear that up. And that was another great volunteer effort. Kudos to you guys 267 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.359 John Compton: for doing that. 268 00:25:19.021 --> 00:25:25.200 John Compton: And lastly, just just you know another example. And you know, every month 269 00:25:25.390 --> 00:25:26.890 John Compton: a lot of these. 270 00:25:27.180 --> 00:25:31.060 John Compton: you know, resident efforts go unrecognized, but 271 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:41.249 John Compton: you know, when I know about them, I try and mention them. So and I think Peter was wanted to be sure we knew that Steve Words and Terry Cox 272 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:48.609 John Compton: repaired a damage to the tennis net on the clay court just this past week. 273 00:25:49.860 --> 00:25:58.629 John Compton: So that means they continue to be usable. We don't have to hire somebody to come out and do it. So thank you, Steve and Terry 274 00:26:00.524 --> 00:26:12.139 John Compton: not on the list of kudos, but something that you know should be mentioned. Was suggested that I I'd be sure and mentioned and that is that the 275 00:26:12.190 --> 00:26:15.329 John Compton: in the playground, the the 276 00:26:15.810 --> 00:26:18.869 John Compton: very extensive list of 277 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:27.199 John Compton: sort of updating and improvements to the playground, not including playground equipment per se. 278 00:26:27.310 --> 00:26:33.690 John Compton: but the access disabled person's access to the 279 00:26:34.974 --> 00:26:45.357 John Compton: equipment was was improved dramatically by the work of Rj, and that is at at the behest of 280 00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:59.510 John Compton: you know, Eva involved and playground group. So we we, we address some of these things. We're we're not, perhaps as proactive as we ought to be, and 281 00:26:59.560 --> 00:27:08.360 John Compton: you know Barbara is kind of that's 1 of her things she looks for. But this this. 282 00:27:08.860 --> 00:27:16.480 John Compton: you know, service by rj, landscapers is is a good example of the kind of thing we 283 00:27:16.520 --> 00:27:20.669 John Compton: we want to do wherever wherever it needs to be done. 284 00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:29.899 John Compton: Okay, that just an announcement. I hope no one needs to to hear, though we have music weekend coming up. 285 00:27:30.647 --> 00:27:38.889 John Compton: The it's been set. It will happen on Saturday, June 20, second Sunday, June 23rd 286 00:27:40.129 --> 00:27:42.439 John Compton: and it was 287 00:27:43.058 --> 00:27:47.791 John Compton: a schedule appeared, I think, in the bulletin. We're going to send out a 288 00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:54.069 John Compton: a rove alert. There's been some alterations to the schedules and finalized 289 00:27:54.810 --> 00:27:59.049 John Compton: activity, so everybody should look for that. 290 00:28:00.660 --> 00:28:03.780 John Compton: Something I hope everyone knows about 291 00:28:05.270 --> 00:28:16.750 John Compton: Is that a, a new email address is now available. To a 1 email address that will deliver your 292 00:28:18.270 --> 00:28:19.340 John Compton: letters 293 00:28:19.580 --> 00:28:23.210 John Compton: to the Mayor and the Town Council 294 00:28:23.782 --> 00:28:29.087 John Compton: it forwards to all of us. It's you're you're it 295 00:28:29.860 --> 00:28:36.790 John Compton: it. It's on the website. Christine's made it. I think it's on the front page, so everybody can see 296 00:28:36.930 --> 00:28:42.979 John Compton: how how to go about that. It's Mayor and town council at Washington Grove, maryland.org 297 00:28:44.950 --> 00:28:52.499 John Compton: So that's going to mean it also will go to Kathy, and it will also go to Christine, since she's the web 298 00:28:53.293 --> 00:28:57.240 John Compton: master and she will post the 299 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.500 John Compton: those appropriate communications 300 00:29:01.560 --> 00:29:07.477 John Compton: so that should happen efficiently. And we, we think this will be a 301 00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:11.440 John Compton: good a way for everyone to get to the Council and the mayor. 302 00:29:14.150 --> 00:29:22.489 John Compton: next item is the shared. Use pathway liaison report. I didn't actually get a report, because actually, nothing. 303 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.240 Peter Nagrod: Hit. 304 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:24.610 John Compton: Has happened. 305 00:29:25.266 --> 00:29:30.180 John Compton: Except that the County Council passed the fiscal 25 306 00:29:30.803 --> 00:29:38.380 John Compton: budget, which includes their capital improvement plan and the Washington Growth connector is now explicitly mentioned 307 00:29:39.208 --> 00:29:43.279 John Compton: to be funded in fiscal 25 for construction. 308 00:29:44.290 --> 00:29:49.509 John Compton: If they get to the construction point that will only happen 309 00:29:49.810 --> 00:29:57.900 John Compton: following further engineering in a a mandatory referral to the planning board which the 310 00:29:58.540 --> 00:30:07.484 John Compton: dot as a department of transportation is was aiming for October. Maybe maybe they can get it there earlier. 311 00:30:08.060 --> 00:30:12.300 John Compton: And and then that meeting in 312 00:30:12.930 --> 00:30:19.980 John Compton: in front of the planning board is also the the time for public comment on the proposed 313 00:30:20.290 --> 00:30:23.159 John Compton: design and 314 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.560 John Compton: detail that will be presented. 315 00:30:28.370 --> 00:30:32.669 Peter Nagrod: So so, John, should we give kudos to you and Barbara, and whoever else was involved. 316 00:30:32.670 --> 00:30:40.889 John Compton: Not? Yeah. Yeah. You know, this is, this is one of those things that stretches out on and on. 317 00:30:41.820 --> 00:30:42.200 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 318 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:43.810 John Compton: Well, we'll accept that because we. 319 00:30:43.810 --> 00:30:44.350 Peter Nagrod: That. 320 00:30:44.350 --> 00:30:47.060 John Compton: Into the Fy. 25 321 00:30:47.310 --> 00:30:49.560 John Compton: capital budget plan. 322 00:30:50.020 --> 00:30:50.480 Peter Nagrod: Right! 323 00:30:50.480 --> 00:31:00.950 John Compton: Unfortunately, it's it's touch and go whether construction will actually start in fiscal 25. We would love for that to happen. But 324 00:31:01.770 --> 00:31:02.690 John Compton: you know. 325 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:08.810 Barbara: But we plan to keep after them with all the stuff they have to do before all their permitting. And all of that. Yeah. 326 00:31:08.810 --> 00:31:10.240 John Compton: Yeah, we'll try and 327 00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:11.450 John Compton: try and 328 00:31:12.090 --> 00:31:13.060 John Compton: shark. 329 00:31:13.730 --> 00:31:22.910 John Compton: Shorten the required steps. To get it to construction. But there's only so much we can do. And you know, we can't promise to be able to do that 330 00:31:24.050 --> 00:31:25.030 John Compton: alright. 331 00:31:25.300 --> 00:31:29.279 John Compton: The next item. And this is this actually 332 00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:34.174 John Compton: relates to the one of the the remaining basic 333 00:31:35.030 --> 00:31:47.885 John Compton: recommendations. The heritage. Emory Grove reportedly, has received their tax exempt status. So it's now official from the an Irs. 334 00:31:48.970 --> 00:31:54.929 John Compton: There was a little bit of mention of the of the revenue for the 100 and 50th 335 00:31:55.190 --> 00:32:00.323 John Compton: the poster, as you all hopefully recall the poster that 336 00:32:01.050 --> 00:32:04.324 John Compton: was created by Craig English Craig 337 00:32:05.683 --> 00:32:10.539 John Compton: donated his time to to create. 338 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.610 John Compton: and the committee 339 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:28.769 John Compton: came to the council and asked that the any profits from that po the poster be be donated to heritage Emory Grove 340 00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:33.569 John Compton: at the time they they and when that was approved last year. 341 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:38.020 John Compton: but not. It was not going to happen until they got their tax exam status. 342 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:39.180 John Compton: Now 343 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.418 John Compton: that that's kind of a small thing to report. 344 00:32:44.256 --> 00:32:55.220 John Compton: I think. I think Heritage Henry Gove and and the town certainly me would like to make this a a you know small event when we 345 00:32:55.270 --> 00:33:11.876 John Compton: rather than just send them the check. We're going to make it an event that's that's going to be part of a meeting I'm setting up with Heritage, Emory Grove and Reverend Tim Warner, who's kind of with a a principal you will, 346 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.570 John Compton: All of you should know the heritage. Emory go was actually 347 00:33:16.610 --> 00:33:23.006 John Compton: a nonprofit created to as a as a as a locality 348 00:33:24.860 --> 00:33:28.500 John Compton: a group to advocate 349 00:33:28.550 --> 00:33:38.309 John Compton: and participate in renovations in the in in in Emory Grove that were planned when a developer 350 00:33:40.504 --> 00:33:48.955 John Compton: plan a a lot about a lot of housing in in in that area. Multi use housing is going to be 351 00:33:49.420 --> 00:34:01.539 John Compton: I think, replaced by some some new construction. The housing Commission of the county is is is on board with this, and 352 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:04.159 John Compton: also others in the county. 353 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:10.079 John Compton: So that's in the planning and and in in process. 354 00:34:11.085 --> 00:34:11.830 John Compton: And 355 00:34:12.553 --> 00:34:18.220 John Compton: we would like to as a town, because now that they're going to do that work 356 00:34:18.616 --> 00:34:22.483 John Compton: it's a it's an excellent time to reach out, as 357 00:34:23.030 --> 00:34:27.314 John Compton: you know, as as suggested by racic to 358 00:34:29.270 --> 00:34:30.639 John Compton: involve 359 00:34:30.659 --> 00:34:39.018 John Compton: both Heritage and Marie Grove and the as well as the amity community in in 360 00:34:39.659 --> 00:34:50.629 John Compton: any any input, any any help there, or any improvements that would might be involved in in access to the new bike. 361 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:58.330 John Compton: the the Washington growth connector that will eventually be built. So coming in from those sides of town. 362 00:34:59.060 --> 00:35:02.759 John Compton: There could be improvements, for example, from Emory Grove, 363 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:09.190 John Compton: which is on the other side of Mid county. You know. A safe bike path 364 00:35:09.782 --> 00:35:13.240 John Compton: at least on on on Washington Grove Lane. 365 00:35:16.192 --> 00:35:28.577 John Compton: could be implemented. That would be a county, a county effort, but that would take bikes and maybe multi user involved. It would. All might also involve 366 00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:37.629 John Compton: sidewalks to bring them to access the the the by, the the Washington Grove Connector through the town. 367 00:35:38.140 --> 00:35:44.479 John Compton: So involving them in this. So yeah, the the discussions I hope to have will have. 368 00:35:44.560 --> 00:35:48.444 John Compton: We'll we'll also touch on aspects of 369 00:35:49.310 --> 00:35:54.690 John Compton: of town activities and and neighboring neighbor activities. 370 00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.110 John Compton: that we can work together on 371 00:36:01.620 --> 00:36:05.566 John Compton: alright, lastly, on my on my report. 372 00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:07.140 John Compton: The 373 00:36:08.520 --> 00:36:22.240 John Compton: we are! We we are next. The next town meeting is going to for? Certainly be a hybrid meeting. Now, in order to do that, we need to have hybrid 374 00:36:22.270 --> 00:36:37.300 John Compton: meeting technology in place that works that will will adequately allow communication with a virtual participants. Both visually and or orally. 375 00:36:37.380 --> 00:36:45.854 John Compton: And to do that, we we we're the the obvious one of the obvious ways to go is to start with 376 00:36:46.410 --> 00:36:49.930 John Compton: smaller meetings and get this worked out. So 377 00:36:50.980 --> 00:36:53.730 John Compton: I've I've committed the Council 378 00:36:54.170 --> 00:37:03.710 John Compton: to work this out. So I'm I'm kind of a heads up to the Council. We're going to need to hold an in person hybrid meeting in the near future 379 00:37:03.770 --> 00:37:29.582 John Compton: in person, being. We will meet in person, and anyone who wants to come in person, like in the old former times can come to the council room, but we will also have available the technology so that the remote and virtual participants will be present as well to do this. I met with the Montgomery Municipal cable 380 00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:34.596 John Compton: people last week to look at the council room 381 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:51.441 John Compton: and also the hall and discuss what we would need, and we they. They made some recommendations as to what sort of equipment we we ought to start with. It's pretty simple to start, and once we have a meeting, 382 00:37:52.050 --> 00:38:03.590 John Compton: and we may start with a committee meeting and then move on to a council meeting. Then we can can improve on any deficiencies that pop up in in practice. 383 00:38:03.590 --> 00:38:04.060 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 384 00:38:04.060 --> 00:38:09.369 John Compton: So that's coming up fairly quickly. I'd I'd very much like to get that in place. 385 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.449 John Compton: I also wanna say that for the town meeting next May. 386 00:38:14.860 --> 00:38:25.869 John Compton: Montgomery cable has agreed to come out and actually run the hybrid meeting themselves as well as video 387 00:38:26.030 --> 00:38:27.160 John Compton: video it. 388 00:38:27.330 --> 00:38:31.550 John Compton: So this is a heads up. Obviously the council. 389 00:38:31.750 --> 00:38:39.330 John Compton: but to formally approve that. But that will simplify making it a 390 00:38:39.490 --> 00:38:41.890 John Compton: a a workable and efficient 391 00:38:43.372 --> 00:38:45.097 John Compton: hybrid hybrid 392 00:38:46.130 --> 00:38:47.010 John Compton: meeting. 393 00:38:48.240 --> 00:38:49.660 John Compton: and that's all. 394 00:38:50.570 --> 00:38:52.627 John Compton: That's the end of my report. 395 00:38:53.990 --> 00:38:56.106 John Compton: I don't see any questions 396 00:38:56.740 --> 00:38:57.850 John Compton: comments. 397 00:38:58.220 --> 00:39:00.200 John Compton: Then we can move to 398 00:39:00.330 --> 00:39:02.149 John Compton: administrative matters 399 00:39:02.871 --> 00:39:05.520 John Compton: the 1st the 1st 400 00:39:06.381 --> 00:39:13.610 John Compton: thing on the administrative under administrative matters on the agenda is the stormwater infrastructure maintenance. Rfp. 401 00:39:14.771 --> 00:39:20.667 John Compton: You will recall at the main meeting we discussed in the Council 402 00:39:22.140 --> 00:39:28.179 John Compton: consensus agreed that the timeline for submissions would be extended 403 00:39:28.690 --> 00:39:33.640 John Compton: we'd initially put the Rfp. Out with the deadline being for this meeting 404 00:39:34.270 --> 00:39:44.289 John Compton: but that turns out to be. Have been very, very over ambitious given the amount of time contractors needed to put together proposals 405 00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:56.219 John Compton: and the time we needed to have a site visit. So we agreed to a new timeline, and I'm going to just show it here. So everybody knows what's coming and can think about this. 406 00:39:58.720 --> 00:39:59.555 John Compton: so 407 00:40:01.082 --> 00:40:09.577 John Compton: okay. So what you should be seeing is. And and and I put this into the materials, and I apologize for not being there earlier. This is actually a 408 00:40:09.910 --> 00:40:16.569 John Compton: a document that I I sent to all of the interested contractors. 409 00:40:17.028 --> 00:40:24.590 John Compton: Which totaled 7 7 different ones, and it it provided answers to some questions that were asked. 410 00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:40.205 John Compton: You can read those for yourself. I'm not going through this, and it also included notes from the walkthrough so to elaborate on on some of the more some of the specific features of the various areas that 411 00:40:40.650 --> 00:40:47.100 John Compton: that the town that the Rfp requests design, build proposals. 412 00:40:47.270 --> 00:40:48.980 John Compton: So you can. You can 413 00:40:49.040 --> 00:40:52.800 John Compton: look at that. But it has the submission timeline. I hope you can see this. 414 00:40:53.390 --> 00:40:57.139 John Compton: The the final questions were due last Friday. 415 00:40:57.716 --> 00:41:04.669 John Compton: there were none. So the response, I I don't have to ha! Ha! Rush to get any responses out. 416 00:41:05.030 --> 00:41:09.830 John Compton: The new deadline for the proposals is to Wednesday, July 3, rd 417 00:41:10.170 --> 00:41:13.429 John Compton: so that nobody has to 418 00:41:13.610 --> 00:41:16.869 John Compton: leave it and work through the holiday weekend. 419 00:41:17.050 --> 00:41:21.790 John Compton: Our Council meeting is July 8, th 420 00:41:22.530 --> 00:41:26.049 John Compton: I believe. Is that right? Yes. 421 00:41:26.120 --> 00:41:30.260 John Compton: Is July 8th and in the in the 422 00:41:30.850 --> 00:41:34.960 John Compton: in the Rfp. I. We put a provision 423 00:41:34.980 --> 00:41:35.779 John Compton: that 424 00:41:36.610 --> 00:41:46.000 John Compton: Those who bid may be asked to appear before the Council for any questions or question, answer session in front of the Council. 425 00:41:46.160 --> 00:42:00.670 John Compton: So once we get the bids and and we we can choose to do that or not to do that. But what we're what we're expecting are in the in the bids is some concept drawings 426 00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:07.489 John Compton: for each of the areas we requested. That the the contractors choose to bid on. 427 00:42:07.570 --> 00:42:11.390 John Compton: And that that will. 428 00:42:12.060 --> 00:42:13.830 John Compton: those concepts 429 00:42:13.930 --> 00:42:15.729 John Compton: they form the 430 00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:27.729 John Compton: basis for looking closely is what the what, what the work that each of them are proposing there, and what it might look like. So if the Council agrees 431 00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:28.950 John Compton: that that 432 00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:37.990 John Compton: they may want to have an opportunity, and and it, would anyone attending the council meeting obviously have the opportunity to question 433 00:42:38.636 --> 00:42:41.367 John Compton: the contractors on their proposals? 434 00:42:42.560 --> 00:42:45.585 John Compton: for this work. So I'm 435 00:42:46.870 --> 00:42:58.290 John Compton: kind kind of suggesting that we may actually schedule for schedule that either, at the council meeting, and we could do it the July 8th meeting. 436 00:42:59.628 --> 00:43:05.460 John Compton: In fact. But in any event, before the August meeting, so that we can 437 00:43:05.730 --> 00:43:08.269 John Compton: move to award the contract 438 00:43:08.410 --> 00:43:13.020 John Compton: in August. So I kind of put in here the balance of July 439 00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:13.735 John Compton: for 440 00:43:14.490 --> 00:43:16.470 John Compton: a. Q. And a session. 441 00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:25.339 John Compton: If it's not at the council meeting. Then we I would ask the Council to schedule a another council meeting in July 442 00:43:25.370 --> 00:43:26.060 John Compton: to 443 00:43:26.780 --> 00:43:32.539 John Compton: specifically address the proposals for the stormwater 444 00:43:32.670 --> 00:43:33.990 John Compton: Rfp. 445 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.620 Peter Nagrod: Sean. This this sounds like awfully iffy 446 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.370 Peter Nagrod: of when it's happening. And whether it's gonna happening. 447 00:43:41.750 --> 00:43:43.010 Peter Nagrod: it's kind of like 448 00:43:43.550 --> 00:43:47.410 Peter Nagrod: it's kind of getting late, shouldn't we just make a decision and do it? 449 00:43:47.810 --> 00:43:48.699 Peter Nagrod: And if the day. 450 00:43:48.700 --> 00:44:01.660 John Compton: None of the all of this is is is perfectly timely, so the the nature of our deadline is, we must have the the funds committed to to be expended. 451 00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:03.830 John Compton: The calendar year. 452 00:44:04.205 --> 00:44:04.580 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 453 00:44:04.580 --> 00:44:10.439 John Compton: This timeline has the award of contract or contracts, however many we. 454 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:10.990 Peter Nagrod: Yep. 455 00:44:10.990 --> 00:44:14.869 John Compton: Do. August 12.th That's way in advance of the deadline. 456 00:44:15.250 --> 00:44:26.887 John Compton: I mean even say, even it takes multiple weeks to sign the contract. We should be. As long as we've expended the Arpa funds we are fine. So I think we're okay. 457 00:44:27.230 --> 00:44:27.840 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 458 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.909 John Compton: Think this still leaves plenty of time. In fact, it could. It could be pushed back. Not that I'm 459 00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:34.519 John Compton: thinking it will, but 460 00:44:35.085 --> 00:44:48.240 John Compton: I think we're in good shape. I I do want to be sure that you know, the work that gets done is not a surprise to anybody they have, they have an opportunity to to see what's going to be done. 461 00:44:48.520 --> 00:44:54.530 Peter Nagrod: No, I think this schedule the schedule looks great. I'm just thinking that if we're gonna do this, why don't we just 462 00:44:54.660 --> 00:44:56.740 Peter Nagrod: other? You'll make it firmer. That 463 00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.240 Peter Nagrod: as far as yeah, I'm just talking about. 464 00:44:59.240 --> 00:45:02.589 John Compton: Actually, yeah, like, the agenda actually has that 465 00:45:02.730 --> 00:45:04.930 John Compton: establish the award process. 466 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.379 Peter Nagrod: Just okay. I'm just talking about the the invitation. 467 00:45:08.938 --> 00:45:12.219 Peter Nagrod: July 8th that meeting, that's all I'm talking about right now. 468 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:24.640 John Compton: Okay, the reason I'm hesitating on we can. We can certainly do that. I mean, if the the bids are due by July 3, rd they ought to be prepared to. You know. 469 00:45:24.670 --> 00:45:31.730 John Compton: Give a brief brief overview and then be available for questions at that meeting, and we could certainly 470 00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:34.940 John Compton: decide tonight that that's what we're going to do. 471 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.809 John Compton: I don't know what the agenda of July looks like. 472 00:45:38.090 --> 00:45:38.700 Peter Nagrod: Again. 473 00:45:38.700 --> 00:45:42.519 John Compton: And this could take either a short time or a long time. 474 00:45:43.070 --> 00:45:46.230 John Compton: So I'm just a little bit hesitant 475 00:45:46.560 --> 00:45:47.430 John Compton: to 476 00:45:47.930 --> 00:45:49.419 John Compton: load up the July. 477 00:45:49.420 --> 00:45:49.950 Peter Nagrod: And he. 478 00:45:49.950 --> 00:45:51.080 John Compton: Council meeting 479 00:45:51.420 --> 00:46:00.329 John Compton: with with stormwater management. I can, but we could. We could play it the other way around. We'll we could definitely do any QA. 480 00:46:00.901 --> 00:46:05.480 John Compton: Session on July 8, th and then any business we don't get done. 481 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.080 John Compton: We would have to schedule a another council meeting 482 00:46:09.310 --> 00:46:11.300 John Compton: or defer it till August. 483 00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:12.150 Peter Nagrod: Really. 484 00:46:12.340 --> 00:46:14.969 John Compton: So it it's up to the up to you guys. 485 00:46:17.430 --> 00:46:28.039 John Compton: I did think you know, from July 3rd to the 8th is, you know we have a we have our council meeting the Monday after the July 4th holiday. 486 00:46:28.790 --> 00:46:34.669 John Compton: so if anybody has to do any preparation, including any on the council, including the mayor. 487 00:46:35.175 --> 00:46:40.079 John Compton: You know it, will it? It will be over that weekend. 488 00:46:40.830 --> 00:46:44.380 John Compton: So that that that I was kind of thinking. Okay. 489 00:46:45.048 --> 00:46:50.490 John Compton: we could just schedule a meeting, say, July, but I'm making this date up 490 00:46:51.132 --> 00:46:52.610 John Compton: July 16th or. 491 00:46:53.270 --> 00:46:59.410 John Compton: You know whatever, and for for a question and answer session. So 492 00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:04.910 John Compton: so why don't we come? We you 493 00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:15.262 John Compton: well, think about that for a bit more at the end of the meeting. Defer deciding exactly how to how to how to do do this. 494 00:47:16.680 --> 00:47:19.860 John Compton: One of the reasons for this is, you know, the town 495 00:47:20.180 --> 00:47:21.720 John Compton: almost never. 496 00:47:22.410 --> 00:47:24.020 John Compton: perhaps never 497 00:47:24.230 --> 00:47:28.770 John Compton: has spent 5 or $600,000 in a contract 498 00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:30.409 John Compton: at one time. 499 00:47:30.650 --> 00:47:35.749 John Compton: So that's a lot of money, and I'm you know I think we need to, you know. Not 500 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:36.755 John Compton: not 501 00:47:38.120 --> 00:47:43.660 John Compton: ha! Have enough time to do that, and enough information, and do our best to 502 00:47:43.730 --> 00:47:44.930 John Compton: to. 503 00:47:44.970 --> 00:47:46.150 John Compton: to 504 00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:49.270 John Compton: ensure. We get what we, we. 505 00:47:49.330 --> 00:47:51.329 John Compton: we, we expect. 506 00:47:51.620 --> 00:47:53.470 Peter Nagrod: Hmm, okay, thank you. 507 00:47:53.710 --> 00:47:59.040 Patrice Klein: And can I just make a quick comment just for thought? This is Patty. I'm sorry you can't see me. 508 00:47:59.040 --> 00:48:01.150 John Compton: I'm gonna stop this time. Let me know. 509 00:48:01.426 --> 00:48:01.980 Patrice Klein: That's okay. 510 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:05.330 Patrice Klein: See that seeing the dates was actually a good vision. 511 00:48:05.950 --> 00:48:06.569 Peter Nagrod: Oh! 512 00:48:06.570 --> 00:48:09.040 Patrice Klein: Just a thought for you, counsel to consider. 513 00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:14.770 Patrice Klein: You might want to have the Council regular council meeting on that July 8, th and then 514 00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:30.970 Patrice Klein: have a separate special council meeting, whatever you want to call it, to just deal with the storm water management, so that it'll give you some breathing space. And my point added to that is, I know, John, you're talking about having the 515 00:48:31.350 --> 00:48:39.869 Patrice Klein: the bids back by June. I'm sorry. July 3.rd That's only in a couple of weeks from now, including the holiday. 516 00:48:39.930 --> 00:48:44.539 Patrice Klein: or just before the holiday. Do you want to give the bidders a extra week 517 00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:45.910 Patrice Klein: to get their bids. 518 00:48:45.910 --> 00:48:54.034 John Compton: Oh, I think they now have had. You know they expected it to. They were. They expected it to be in front of this meeting. 519 00:48:54.420 --> 00:48:59.379 John Compton: They made a convincing case that they they needed to have 520 00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:06.800 John Compton: consultant and and and recruit subcontractors, and the extra time would be helpful. 521 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:16.056 John Compton: So, in the interest of getting their best proposal this month this additional month. They've had an additional month, remember? Even though. 522 00:49:16.520 --> 00:49:21.150 John Compton: So it's I think they've got are going to have had plenty of times. 523 00:49:21.150 --> 00:49:26.389 Patrice Klein: Well, only because you're gonna just send out the responses to those questions tomorrow. So. 524 00:49:26.390 --> 00:49:30.250 John Compton: I sent out what you saw I sent out 525 00:49:31.690 --> 00:49:34.360 John Compton: 2 weeks ago, now, week and a half ago, 2 weeks. 526 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:36.920 Patrice Klein: But wait. 527 00:49:37.250 --> 00:49:41.649 Patrice Klein: It couldn't have been because we just had last, wasn't it? Last week we had the other 3 bidders. 528 00:49:42.110 --> 00:49:44.760 John Compton: Yes, and I sent it out like 2 days after that. 529 00:49:45.590 --> 00:49:47.647 Patrice Klein: Okay, just checking, just trying to. 530 00:49:47.990 --> 00:49:50.790 John Compton: On the 19.th I believe we had the last one on this. 531 00:49:52.410 --> 00:49:53.163 Patrice Klein: It was 532 00:49:53.540 --> 00:49:58.139 John Compton: 29, th and I sent the I sent that out on the first.st 533 00:49:58.140 --> 00:49:59.020 Patrice Klein: Oh, okay, so then. 534 00:49:59.020 --> 00:50:01.540 John Compton: But I mean the 31.st Okay? 535 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.450 Patrice Klein: As long as they. As long as the bidders have all the answers, and then they can work on this stuff. Okay, thanks. 536 00:50:11.900 --> 00:50:12.985 John Compton: Okay, 537 00:50:14.270 --> 00:50:20.160 John Compton: so where? Where are we? We are? That's all I have to say about that. Unless anybody has any additional questions. 538 00:50:21.748 --> 00:50:23.060 Robert Booher: John, this is Bob! 539 00:50:23.260 --> 00:50:24.050 John Compton: Yeah. 540 00:50:25.560 --> 00:50:30.740 Robert Booher: I was thinking I was thinking that it the 541 00:50:30.750 --> 00:50:32.619 Robert Booher: it may not be easy 542 00:50:32.700 --> 00:50:34.760 Robert Booher: to compare 543 00:50:35.200 --> 00:50:39.299 Robert Booher: the pre, the the what they submit the submissions. 544 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:46.200 Robert Booher: And I think it would be important to have presentations, not just sort of 545 00:50:46.220 --> 00:50:48.810 Robert Booher: questions, but presentations. By 546 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.609 Robert Booher: maybe the 547 00:50:50.680 --> 00:50:53.130 Robert Booher: the 2 or 3, yeah. 548 00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:56.569 Robert Booher: so to speak. So it may make sense to go through there 549 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:03.919 Robert Booher: their submissions, and then pick a couple of them, and then require them to come in and and present 550 00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:04.990 Robert Booher: on a day 551 00:51:05.330 --> 00:51:06.300 Robert Booher: right. 552 00:51:06.300 --> 00:51:12.449 John Compton: Well that that thank you for elaborating on that. That's by having it on a separate meeting. 553 00:51:12.560 --> 00:51:19.429 John Compton: We we can certainly not feel pressed for time, and and allow for a presentation, especially if it will. 554 00:51:19.890 --> 00:51:20.390 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 555 00:51:20.390 --> 00:51:21.024 John Compton: Well, 556 00:51:22.170 --> 00:51:29.843 John Compton: help understand the what appeared to be the the most promising submissions. I think that's what you're. 557 00:51:30.270 --> 00:51:32.240 Robert Booher: I don't think you want all of them. 558 00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:33.951 John Compton: No, we certainly don't. 559 00:51:34.520 --> 00:51:36.559 John Compton: That would be a formidable 560 00:51:37.560 --> 00:51:38.466 John Compton: a bit. 561 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:40.460 John Compton: meeting. 562 00:51:40.460 --> 00:51:41.609 Robert Booher: Yeah. Thanks. 563 00:51:41.810 --> 00:51:47.174 Peter Nagrod: So so, Bob, so so you're talking about. But there would be a prior selection process. 564 00:51:47.670 --> 00:51:51.007 Robert Booher: Yeah, I mean, if you get them in on the 3, rd then then you 565 00:51:51.250 --> 00:52:00.030 Robert Booher: start looking at them and meet on the 8, th you can potentially weed out some, and then then give them invitations 566 00:52:00.190 --> 00:52:04.469 Robert Booher: either to all you know. Set one day to have all 3 of them come in 567 00:52:04.590 --> 00:52:10.819 Robert Booher: sequentially, so to speak, and give presentations of their solutions because their solutions are going to vary. I. 568 00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:11.530 Peter Nagrod: Right. 569 00:52:11.530 --> 00:52:11.785 John Compton: Reach. 570 00:52:12.040 --> 00:52:20.940 Robert Booher: Because it's a design. Build the solution vary, and they will have to sort of convince you of the the appropriateness of their 571 00:52:21.040 --> 00:52:22.260 Robert Booher: solutions. 572 00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:26.900 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I I just wanna make sure that everybody that's in the running is given the chance. 573 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:33.430 Peter Nagrod: So I I'm yeah. He's given the chance to do the presentation on, on otherwise would be an unfair advantage. 574 00:52:33.430 --> 00:52:43.363 Robert Booher: No, I I that's not necessarily unfair that this happens, you know, in the real world all the time is that there's a prior selection. And then there's a best and final kind of thing that 575 00:52:43.900 --> 00:52:48.210 Peter Nagrod: Right? Yeah, so so all. So all of the people in contention will present. 576 00:52:49.190 --> 00:52:51.049 Robert Booher: Not what I'm I'm thinking, but. 577 00:52:51.050 --> 00:52:53.819 Peter Nagrod: I'm hearing. I'm hearing you say that. That's why I wanted to be clear on this. 578 00:52:53.820 --> 00:52:55.070 John Compton: Exploration. 579 00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:01.550 Robert Booher: No? Well, okay. Well, what you get your you have 7 or so you may get 6 bids. I don't know. 5 bids 580 00:53:01.560 --> 00:53:08.570 Robert Booher: whittle it down to say 3. Right, and say, those 3 will. All 3 will give presentations. Yes. 581 00:53:08.570 --> 00:53:09.360 Peter Nagrod: Right. 582 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:09.900 Robert Booher: That's why. 583 00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:13.959 Peter Nagrod: The other ones have been kicked and the other ones have been kicked. So yeah, so there's a down select already. 584 00:53:14.120 --> 00:53:15.840 Robert Booher: Yeah. That's what I do. 585 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.769 Peter Nagrod: Do we know how we're doing that down? Select? 586 00:53:19.990 --> 00:53:22.870 Peter Nagrod: Well, we better, because this is contracting. 587 00:53:22.870 --> 00:53:25.715 John Compton: We? We have some criteria in. 588 00:53:26.310 --> 00:53:26.980 Peter Nagrod: And okay. 589 00:53:27.260 --> 00:53:29.670 John Compton: So we we, we have explained. 590 00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:38.929 John Compton: But but of course the criteria are that are listed. include, you know, the the town reserves the right to. 591 00:53:39.090 --> 00:53:40.330 John Compton: you know. 592 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:48.149 John Compton: award the contract based on, you know, the one providing the the best 593 00:53:48.230 --> 00:53:49.500 John Compton: solution. 594 00:53:49.500 --> 00:53:50.540 Robert Booher: That's value. 595 00:53:50.850 --> 00:53:54.319 John Compton: Best value. That's right. And that allows you to do anything 596 00:53:55.330 --> 00:54:05.150 John Compton: as long as you've got a you know. Obviously, we're gonna have a reason. It's like we have some that we have, often we not often. But we have have 597 00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:17.299 John Compton: awarded contracts to, not to the lowest bidder, because or other things. Because we believe the value was higher with a with a higher, better. 598 00:54:19.030 --> 00:54:23.639 Patrice Klein: Isn't Saltez going to be on standby? We have some questions 599 00:54:23.810 --> 00:54:25.679 Patrice Klein: as well, and helping us. 600 00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:27.180 John Compton: I hadn't thought 601 00:54:27.720 --> 00:54:36.299 John Compton: that far along, but I think once we get the they're certainly on standby. Once we get the proposals to to help us, you know. 602 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:42.070 John Compton: Look at them, I I certainly think that's what we anticipated. Yeah. 603 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:42.950 Patrice Klein: Guess I meant. 604 00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:44.160 Peter Nagrod: Good. 605 00:54:46.260 --> 00:54:47.330 John Compton: Okay. 606 00:54:51.100 --> 00:54:58.500 John Compton: right? Somewhere. Here I have the agenda. Okay? So next item on the agenda, on the administrative matters are several appointments. 607 00:55:00.090 --> 00:55:05.020 John Compton: the like to propose appointing Jeff Mccree in 608 00:55:05.060 --> 00:55:11.009 John Compton: on the to the planning commission as a full member. Now, the last time we appointed him as a as a 609 00:55:11.370 --> 00:55:23.495 John Compton: as as the alternate. But sung Chang, and there's going to be leaving the planning commission, and it's convenient now to do that as of today, or 610 00:55:24.570 --> 00:55:40.499 John Compton: or or as of the next meeting for the planning commission and so I'm going. I'm a proposing appointment that Jeff be moved to a full member, and just to complete the the appointment is Bob Kristen, who is on 611 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:42.170 John Compton: all here. 612 00:55:42.170 --> 00:55:42.980 Peter Nagrod: Yes. 613 00:55:43.540 --> 00:55:47.459 John Compton: With, you know. georgette 614 00:55:48.150 --> 00:55:56.259 John Compton: has done all of the field work here to identify Bob as being interested in the planning commission. 615 00:55:57.217 --> 00:56:03.089 John Compton: Those of you who don't know Bob Kristen. You may not know him, he, but he's lived in the grove 616 00:56:03.180 --> 00:56:05.420 John Compton: a long time. I'll let him 617 00:56:05.620 --> 00:56:09.506 John Compton: confirm how long that is? Bob, if you're on just 618 00:56:10.622 --> 00:56:11.710 John Compton: very brief, but. 619 00:56:12.350 --> 00:56:14.270 Robert Christin: I think it's been 42 years. 620 00:56:14.270 --> 00:56:15.194 John Compton: Yeah. 621 00:56:16.120 --> 00:56:18.790 Robert Christin: How did I been retired for a few years? And he. 622 00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:23.080 Robert Christin: Grandkids, are getting older. I've run out of excuses not to pitch in. 623 00:56:23.685 --> 00:56:26.660 Robert Christin: Think Georgette recognized that in the 624 00:56:26.750 --> 00:56:29.849 Robert Christin: suggest that I could take my turn on the commission. 625 00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:31.609 Robert Christin: So here I am. 626 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.789 Peter Nagrod: So we don't know Bob as as. 627 00:56:34.930 --> 00:56:38.413 Peter Nagrod: and that's how he's. That's how he's known in the growth. 628 00:56:38.730 --> 00:56:39.840 Robert Christin: Frankie's Dad. 629 00:56:40.150 --> 00:56:42.206 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, like, he said. 630 00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:44.299 Robert Christin: Friday, Father Grandpa. 631 00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:45.135 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 632 00:56:45.970 --> 00:56:51.649 John Compton: And and and and Bob is a a lawyer, so you might. 633 00:56:51.950 --> 00:56:53.019 John Compton: It might 634 00:56:54.918 --> 00:57:01.479 John Compton: second guess that one but but he was a lawyer for the for the Federal Government for so 635 00:57:01.990 --> 00:57:03.629 John Compton: and and has some 636 00:57:04.728 --> 00:57:08.800 John Compton: expensive experience with bureaucracy like 637 00:57:08.820 --> 00:57:13.629 John Compton: we, we're we're so bureaucratic that that should be helpful. 638 00:57:14.104 --> 00:57:22.930 John Compton: But mostly he's very familiar with the grove, of course. And is willing to, you know. 639 00:57:23.460 --> 00:57:25.810 John Compton: lend his his 640 00:57:25.860 --> 00:57:29.100 John Compton: experience and time to the town. 641 00:57:30.300 --> 00:57:39.039 John Compton: So this is just the alternate position. But as as Bob, I'm sure Georgette and I, I, I explained the alternate 642 00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:44.989 John Compton: mo more often than not, far more often than not, moves into being a full member. 643 00:57:46.380 --> 00:57:50.403 John Compton: sooner you often sooner than you might have anticipated. 644 00:57:53.380 --> 00:57:55.070 John Compton: Okay, any questions. 645 00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:01.592 John Compton: So this is once again, it's 2 appointments, Jeff Mclaren to the full member and 646 00:58:02.190 --> 00:58:05.412 John Compton: and Bob Kristen to the alternate 647 00:58:07.120 --> 00:58:10.530 John Compton: alright. So we're gonna have a 648 00:58:10.580 --> 00:58:17.430 John Compton: i i i need a I need a vote of confidence in the mayors, appointments, basically all in favor. 649 00:58:17.430 --> 00:58:19.338 Barbara: This is Barbara, so moved. 650 00:58:20.580 --> 00:58:21.770 John Compton: Peter second. 651 00:58:22.200 --> 00:58:29.876 John Compton: or whatever we still only have 4 member. Oh, there's Eva! She's here great all in favor. Then. 652 00:58:30.260 --> 00:58:31.370 Eva: And here, since 8. 653 00:58:31.740 --> 00:58:32.729 John Compton: Yeah, good for you. 654 00:58:32.900 --> 00:58:38.669 John Compton: There's there's a lot you know. How many people I have. How many do I have? I have 33. 655 00:58:38.670 --> 00:58:39.350 Peter Nagrod: There! You! 656 00:58:39.990 --> 00:58:40.859 John Compton: Yeah. 657 00:58:42.300 --> 00:58:43.450 John Compton: All a favor. 658 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:44.670 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 659 00:58:44.670 --> 00:58:45.560 John Compton: Okay 660 00:58:46.580 --> 00:58:47.969 John Compton: and opposed. 661 00:58:48.470 --> 00:58:54.609 John Compton: Alright, you guys thanks, Bob, for coming. You can stay and watch the fun 662 00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:57.960 John Compton: are participating, of course. 663 00:58:58.692 --> 00:59:06.570 John Compton: Alright. Next item on on the agenda is the comprehensive roadwork, 2,024 664 00:59:07.128 --> 00:59:14.000 John Compton: for which we put out an Rfp. And to which we got 3 responses 665 00:59:14.020 --> 00:59:16.489 John Compton: by the deadline today. 666 00:59:17.177 --> 00:59:20.799 John Compton: And they were from Fo. Day. 667 00:59:20.930 --> 00:59:27.809 John Compton: from Mt. Laney and from Ross. I don't know the full name of Ross. I've forgotten 668 00:59:29.380 --> 00:59:34.060 John Compton: and because this is virtual. We we can't open them 669 00:59:34.090 --> 00:59:44.190 John Compton: at the meeting, so we open them. And I have put together a spreadsheet. Showing the bidding. 670 00:59:44.645 --> 00:59:53.430 John Compton: And I hope this is going. You can have to pay attention to this once. I put it up there for you to see. So you understand? 671 00:59:54.146 --> 00:59:57.903 John Compton: Let me just remind everyone the 672 00:59:59.050 --> 01:00:00.110 John Compton: the 673 01:00:00.350 --> 01:00:03.740 John Compton: Rfp had 674 01:00:04.770 --> 01:00:07.650 John Compton: areas a through 675 01:00:07.930 --> 01:00:09.010 John Compton: K 676 01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:14.140 John Compton: identified around town for a potential for roadwork 677 01:00:14.230 --> 01:00:16.990 John Compton: of smaller or lesser extent. 678 01:00:17.660 --> 01:00:23.288 John Compton: and the bidders were asked to bid on a through 679 01:00:24.180 --> 01:00:27.650 John Compton: KAF through J. 680 01:00:27.710 --> 01:00:30.049 John Compton: I. But these numbers don't make sense. 681 01:00:31.950 --> 01:00:36.350 John Compton: and and I think I have the watering. Don't worry about it. 682 01:00:36.984 --> 01:00:40.305 John Compton: We're asked to bid on on on 683 01:00:40.940 --> 01:00:58.469 John Compton: a bunch of them, and 3 of them, which is shown here in this spreadsheet down at the bottom. A. Indicated that we would like a suggestion as to what to do about these areas. Since it wasn't clear that either, because several were route damage to the pavement. 684 01:00:58.550 --> 01:01:06.729 John Compton: And we we don't want to damage the trees in any work we do, and the other one, the depression on Johnson Alley 685 01:01:07.142 --> 01:01:12.947 John Compton: is really the problem. The rest of Johnson Alley is kind of a lower priority. 686 01:01:13.670 --> 01:01:22.230 John Compton: paving situation. So how do we fix the depression? Would they? What would they recommend? 687 01:01:22.860 --> 01:01:30.000 John Compton: I haven't talked. We haven't talked to any of the contractors about their answer to that fo day, I think. 688 01:01:30.190 --> 01:01:34.308 John Compton: actually put in a number for all 3 of these. 689 01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:40.832 John Compton: but I don't even want to consider adding that to this at this time, because 690 01:01:41.620 --> 01:01:44.859 John Compton: because it it it 691 01:01:45.470 --> 01:01:48.040 John Compton: we need to consider them 692 01:01:48.330 --> 01:02:04.579 John Compton: caught. The cost to the environment, to trees, and to Johnson Alley to doing the work. So what we have then, are these other 10 areas. And and what I've done is they've been ordered here. They're not a through. 693 01:02:05.438 --> 01:02:07.930 John Compton: I I think it is 694 01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:11.909 John Compton: no JA. Through. J. 695 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:26.749 John Compton: I've ordered them by my assessment, and I think, Peter's assessment is included. Mine. Mine had to include more areas. And so what? What were the priority areas? 696 01:02:27.060 --> 01:02:27.690 Peter Nagrod: Andrew. 697 01:02:27.690 --> 01:02:34.040 John Compton: If we couldn't do them all, so we can't do them all, because here are the bids. You can see the day 698 01:02:34.210 --> 01:02:58.299 John Compton: the day bids the Laney bids and the Ross bids and Laney's for all the work was lost at $143,000, and our budget. If we combine this year, which we're coming up to the end of, and next year 40,000 each year is 80,000. So there's no way, even with the lowest total. 699 01:02:58.640 --> 01:03:01.200 John Compton: that we can do all of the work 700 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.533 John Compton: using without breaking the budget 701 01:03:06.470 --> 01:03:15.409 John Compton: And the fact is that these areas were, many of these areas were included because they looked like they would, while. 702 01:03:15.630 --> 01:03:16.960 John Compton: well, what? 703 01:03:17.550 --> 01:03:19.650 John Compton: Let me start over, hey? 704 01:03:19.660 --> 01:03:26.800 John Compton: They didn't immediately need attention, but they were clearly the areas that were going to 705 01:03:26.830 --> 01:03:29.739 John Compton: seem to be going to need attention the soonest. 706 01:03:30.070 --> 01:03:30.990 John Compton: So 707 01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:33.300 John Compton: with that preamble. 708 01:03:33.340 --> 01:03:41.829 John Compton: I divided them up in the into 3 categories the highest priority which you're seeing in yellow, and I've listed that I've I've ordered at the top 709 01:03:42.050 --> 01:03:42.715 John Compton: the 710 01:03:44.304 --> 01:03:46.720 John Compton: well, they end up here at the top. 711 01:03:46.720 --> 01:03:47.064 Peter Nagrod: Moving. 712 01:03:47.765 --> 01:03:51.315 John Compton: And and I, I probably should move this one. Now. 713 01:03:52.220 --> 01:03:54.578 John Compton: let me let me let me move this one. 714 01:03:58.150 --> 01:03:59.065 John Compton: here, 715 01:04:00.430 --> 01:04:01.510 John Compton: what happened. 716 01:04:08.850 --> 01:04:36.819 John Compton: Okay? Then then then then there are 2 that are kind of the second priority, which I would define as if we don't do it this year. It's not. It's not crucial. They be done this year. And whether we do them the following year, or which would now be 2 years depends on the rate of deterioration. And lastly, the last 3, again, are even less of a priority. They're they're in bray. 717 01:04:37.120 --> 01:04:45.070 John Compton: Alright. So this ho! All this is to to try and figure out how far our money you know. What can we do? The priority work. 718 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:46.759 John Compton: and how much of it 719 01:04:47.110 --> 01:04:50.190 John Compton: with the funds we have budgeted. 720 01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:52.170 John Compton: And so 721 01:04:52.420 --> 01:04:53.130 John Compton: the 722 01:04:54.490 --> 01:05:01.040 John Compton: shown in red are the low bids for each of these areas. And who had the low bids? 723 01:05:01.588 --> 01:05:12.360 John Compton: You'll note. Well, multiple. In some cases, multiple are red because they're within 10% of each other. And you know well, yes, we could 724 01:05:12.530 --> 01:05:15.179 John Compton: go strict by strict dollars 725 01:05:15.340 --> 01:05:26.390 John Compton: you in in awarding this contract. You know, these guys, I think, day, requested a minimum of $40,000 in work. 726 01:05:26.490 --> 01:05:27.500 John Compton: So 727 01:05:28.220 --> 01:05:33.590 John Compton: if they're close and and we want to be sure we give enough work. 728 01:05:34.350 --> 01:05:42.539 John Compton: We may want to. Just consider this this the higher bid as equivalent to the slightly lower bid. 729 01:05:43.410 --> 01:05:54.779 John Compton: and you'll see that quite close. Here's here's 1 where they don't differ by about $1,500. And what have you so? What I've done is taken these high priority guys and look. 730 01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:56.330 John Compton: All bidders 731 01:05:56.420 --> 01:06:00.009 John Compton: and come up with a proposal I want to recommend. 732 01:06:01.083 --> 01:06:05.750 John Compton: And here's here is what what what 733 01:06:05.810 --> 01:06:11.279 John Compton: you see is, I've checked off. These 6 734 01:06:13.790 --> 01:06:15.269 John Compton: to award 735 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.099 John Compton: to to do that work. 736 01:06:18.230 --> 01:06:20.710 John Compton: And if we do those 6 737 01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:23.619 John Compton: at the lowest bid 738 01:06:24.220 --> 01:06:31.109 John Compton: at the lowest bids, and that it's basically 2 of the contractors. The days are all higher. 739 01:06:32.420 --> 01:06:35.930 John Compton: You can see where they are close to one of the others. 740 01:06:37.970 --> 01:06:39.679 John Compton: if we do that. 741 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:47.060 John Compton: We end up expanding this 42, 7 plus 18, 742 01:06:47.070 --> 01:06:54.799 John Compton: 5, 25, which is 6. It's the down here 61, 2, 25, 743 01:06:55.930 --> 01:06:58.110 John Compton: not the entire 80,000 744 01:07:00.260 --> 01:07:01.230 John Compton: so. 745 01:07:02.160 --> 01:07:08.280 John Compton: And and let me just make a comment on that the the day Lily? The day Lily repair 746 01:07:10.970 --> 01:07:15.199 John Compton: The bid was for doing all of day Lily, from Washington Grove Lane to 747 01:07:15.780 --> 01:07:16.520 John Compton: the end. 748 01:07:16.700 --> 01:07:23.820 John Compton: Actually, much of the of the of the of day. Lily, from Washington Lane at least half 749 01:07:23.930 --> 01:07:43.370 John Compton: is. It probably is in the category of the other, the other 2 categories. It's it's it's certainly nothing wrong with the road today, and maybe something wrong with it after another winter or or problem, so we could consider partially paving daily, which would mean less of a cost 750 01:07:43.390 --> 01:07:50.029 John Compton: for these 6 items. The point is that we have 1,800 775 left, if we do all of day, Lily. 751 01:07:50.540 --> 01:07:55.267 John Compton: and so to add one of these next priority. 752 01:07:56.392 --> 01:08:00.889 John Compton: the next priority, which is Grove Road. 753 01:08:00.910 --> 01:08:03.200 John Compton: from Woodward Park to Brown. 754 01:08:04.110 --> 01:08:05.035 John Compton: Okay. 755 01:08:07.930 --> 01:08:20.750 John Compton: that that the low bid is 26,000. So if we took 26 we would. We would go over 80,000 with me here it is down here by 7,000. That's that's this calculation. 756 01:08:23.370 --> 01:08:30.304 John Compton: But if we don't only do partial day, Lily, we can bring that back into within the budget, and 757 01:08:31.371 --> 01:08:38.230 John Compton: at pending, talking to the the contractor awarded the daily portion, which 758 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:49.059 John Compton: here would be would be would be Laney. I and I don't see why they wouldn't be perfectly okay with doing 30% or 50% of the road 759 01:08:49.780 --> 01:08:50.420 John Compton: button. 760 01:08:50.540 --> 01:08:56.599 John Compton: Then then we can add in the Grove Grove Road from Woodward Park to Brown Street. 761 01:08:57.469 --> 01:09:15.829 John Compton: By Laney. So it's basic. They get the money one way or the other. They just do the work here. So that's what I'm proposing to do is to award to to discuss with them and award 28,500 of the of the work to Ross. 762 01:09:17.180 --> 01:09:21.540 John Compton: in in basically in 3 3 areas. 763 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:23.529 John Compton: hickory road 764 01:09:24.260 --> 01:09:29.420 John Compton: up to the turnaround. It's actually only a portion of Hickory road about 100 plus feet. 765 01:09:29.779 --> 01:09:35.109 John Compton: Just. I brought Mccauley to about halfway down Chestnut toward Acorn 766 01:09:35.500 --> 01:09:41.350 John Compton: Mccauley. Finish Mccauley to wait. No sorry acorn way 767 01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:46.729 John Compton: to Wade Park, which is virtually the remainder of Macaulay, that we didn't pay the last time. 768 01:09:47.729 --> 01:09:50.679 Kathy Lehman: John. It's Acorn Lane. 769 01:09:50.789 --> 01:09:51.719 Kathy Lehman: Can we get that. 770 01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.239 John Compton: I love to call it acorn way. Why. 771 01:09:55.090 --> 01:09:58.869 John Compton: I call it acorn way. I've I've done that repeatedly. 772 01:09:59.050 --> 01:10:00.220 Kathy Lehman: I know. 773 01:10:00.510 --> 01:10:01.469 John Compton: Violent. I'm like. 774 01:10:01.470 --> 01:10:02.929 Kathy Lehman: It'll look good man. 775 01:10:02.930 --> 01:10:05.774 John Compton: Found, and determined to do it that way. 776 01:10:06.900 --> 01:10:08.430 John Compton: We should change the name 777 01:10:08.570 --> 01:10:09.230 John Compton: and. 778 01:10:09.230 --> 01:10:11.100 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, yeah. 779 01:10:12.150 --> 01:10:12.820 John Compton: Right? 780 01:10:13.030 --> 01:10:27.680 John Compton: Okay? Yeah. And now, hickory road at Oak, the intersection is got a multiple of crumbling portions. The corners in particular. Oh, 3 of the 4 Corners 781 01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:42.595 John Compton: Hickory Road at Railroad Street, right at Railroad Street. The one of the there there is the pavement has come up come completely crumbled away. Right where the cars turn. Right? 782 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:50.000 John Compton: yeah. So that's my proposal for spending our 80, 783 01:10:50.130 --> 01:10:50.990 John Compton: you know. 784 01:10:51.170 --> 01:10:57.981 John Compton: close to the $80,000 you have available. I will point out that Ross included in their 785 01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:04.771 John Compton: their bid. They're putting in the stop lines that that would be obliterated. So 786 01:11:05.320 --> 01:11:07.620 John Compton: in. In the case of 787 01:11:08.187 --> 01:11:14.260 John Compton: Acorn Lane, of course there's a stop line at Macaulay which would have to be. I'm just it. 788 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:20.229 John Compton: These are. This is a small matter, but actually have to pay for it. If it's not in this bid. 789 01:11:21.090 --> 01:11:22.200 John Compton: At the stop on. 790 01:11:23.740 --> 01:11:26.409 John Compton: Alright. I've said a lot, and I know. 791 01:11:26.751 --> 01:11:28.800 Peter Nagrod: John, okay. So I think that 792 01:11:28.940 --> 01:11:44.743 Peter Nagrod: I've having worked with you just a very little bit on this. You squeezed in 2 ones that I really wanted to get done. I think you did a great. I didn't think you could actually use 2 contractors, but if you can, I think this is great, what you came up with, and I am happy to make the motion to approve 793 01:11:45.310 --> 01:11:47.790 Peter Nagrod: the funding for these 2 companies, as you. 794 01:11:50.170 --> 01:11:56.820 John Compton: Okay, thank you, Peter. That is helpful. But but every anybody else cares to, you know, weigh. 795 01:11:57.170 --> 01:11:58.390 Peter Nagrod: It's the emotion. So. 796 01:11:58.390 --> 01:12:00.769 Barbara: Yes, this is Barbara. I second. 797 01:12:01.280 --> 01:12:01.990 Peter Nagrod: Thanks, Barbara. 798 01:12:01.990 --> 01:12:02.780 John Compton: Okay. 799 01:12:02.780 --> 01:12:03.920 Peter Nagrod: Okay. Now, we can call. 800 01:12:05.370 --> 01:12:13.929 John Compton: Alright! Anybody else have anything to say about this? I I will comment as I commented, when we we created this Rfp. 801 01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:29.669 John Compton: The the roads in town are in remarkably good shape compared to the last time I we looked at this, you know, there was definitely some things that really needed attention here. There are a few of these are yes, we it's time to do them. But good. 802 01:12:29.690 --> 01:12:37.779 John Compton: Large portions of the row of the roads are in in great shape, and I I gave an example to Brown Street from Maple Road 803 01:12:37.870 --> 01:12:51.470 John Compton: to just Pass Maple Avenue. The real issue is really right at Maple Road and a little bit at at Maple Avenue. But it's small, and if you you know normally in the past, we would have just patched that area. I mean, just. 804 01:12:51.940 --> 01:12:54.399 John Compton: Just on a very small small bit. 805 01:12:54.410 --> 01:12:59.760 John Compton: but it's not bad enough to do it immediately, and that's the story all around town, mostly. 806 01:13:01.110 --> 01:13:16.769 John Compton: and and I I this is my opinion. Anybody with different opinions, you know, is is welcome to weigh in. And I I did. We did ask for for all kinds of you know any of the residents to make suggestions where they thought 807 01:13:17.310 --> 01:13:30.929 John Compton: but was needed. We got a few several, although one of those is here on Locust Lane, where this route is causing a problem roadway. I'm sure we can fix that without 808 01:13:31.050 --> 01:13:35.070 John Compton: damaging the the route, and it probably doesn't involve 809 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.759 John Compton: grinding any of the existing pavement just putting some 810 01:13:39.280 --> 01:13:41.510 John Compton: new pavement, not on the road. 811 01:13:41.810 --> 01:13:43.729 John Compton: So yeah, we got those suggestions. 812 01:13:43.730 --> 01:13:49.901 Barbara: So this is Barbara. And I just want to say, I agree with Peter that you did. Really, this is all very creative. 813 01:13:50.170 --> 01:13:50.560 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 814 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:59.780 Barbara: To do these little buckets, and made it all work, and and got really got the most bang for our buck out of it. So I I think it looks really great. 815 01:14:00.530 --> 01:14:01.190 John Compton: Okay. 816 01:14:01.330 --> 01:14:04.080 John Compton: alright, we don't need to beat it at horse. Anybody else. 817 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:20.826 John Compton: Okay, all in favor of the plan I outlined for you all that's 5 0. Thank you. Great. We can move on, and it'll try and get these contracts. Not try. We will get these contracts executed. 818 01:14:21.660 --> 01:14:24.330 John Compton: before the end of this fiscal year. 819 01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:37.759 John Compton: alright. Next item is is A is the renewable energy conversion, incentive pilot program, which, with the Council authorized for one year 820 01:14:38.535 --> 01:14:45.560 John Compton: it was proposed in June, and it was basically endorsed in August. 821 01:14:46.193 --> 01:14:51.169 John Compton: But this should be a hopefully a non-controversial 822 01:14:51.716 --> 01:14:57.920 John Compton: issue. I can show you and that was done by resolution. 823 01:14:58.150 --> 01:15:09.728 John Compton: and the resolution was in the materials that I put together because it just required modifying last year's resolution. So. 824 01:15:11.100 --> 01:15:15.340 John Compton: obviously, I mean, I have asked somebody to introduce this, but let me just explain 825 01:15:16.196 --> 01:15:17.804 John Compton: in advance what 826 01:15:19.280 --> 01:15:21.679 John Compton: what there should be visible. 827 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.969 John Compton: Make sure you can read it. 828 01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:31.649 John Compton: Yeah, so I won't show the last years. But he, he and highlighted is the new. What's new for this one 829 01:15:32.302 --> 01:15:35.539 John Compton: anything not highlighted is from last year's 830 01:15:36.930 --> 01:15:47.305 John Compton: and it's says, whereas the Mayor tank has established the pilot program incentives in 24 in order 831 01:15:48.130 --> 01:15:57.070 John Compton: to incentivize the conversion to sustainable heating and cooling systems, renewable energy and electric vehicles in an effort to reduce the town's carbon footprint. 832 01:15:58.005 --> 01:16:10.450 John Compton: Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Mayor and Town Council approve continuation of the of the pilot program in order to further evaluate the uptake and effectiveness of the program in meeting this goal 833 01:16:11.490 --> 01:16:18.419 John Compton: for the resolve that it go for a period of of a period of of a year, ending June 30, th 834 01:16:18.580 --> 01:16:20.870 John Compton: of 2025 835 01:16:21.328 --> 01:16:28.890 John Compton: and according to the program description which is attached to the resolution, it's exactly the same as last year. 836 01:16:30.360 --> 01:16:35.017 John Compton: and that it will be funded with $20,000, which is what the 837 01:16:35.500 --> 01:16:37.140 John Compton: what? What? The town approved 838 01:16:37.930 --> 01:16:40.370 John Compton: in the coming years. Budget? 839 01:16:42.170 --> 01:16:50.120 John Compton: so that that's the resolution. I do wanna just comment. Well, I'd like somebody to introduce this second, maybe. 840 01:16:51.068 --> 01:16:54.949 John Compton: I'm assuming council. Somebody on the Council is in favor. 841 01:16:55.300 --> 01:16:58.579 Eva: Yeah, I'll I'll move to approve this resolution. 842 01:16:58.580 --> 01:17:00.270 marywarfield: I'll I'll second Mary. 843 01:17:00.860 --> 01:17:03.206 John Compton: Good. Eva's gonna keep peace in the household. 844 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:11.990 Eva: Well, and I, you know I do see that people are using this program and and I'll also just 845 01:17:12.060 --> 01:17:34.229 Eva: put in a little plug that now Paul is going to people's houses to help them fill out the paperwork if they're having trouble doing it online. So we may have even more people taking advantage of it without the barrier of trying to figure out the paperwork on their own. So it seems like people are are using it and interested, and it will continue 846 01:17:34.450 --> 01:17:36.319 Eva: to do good. Yeah. 847 01:17:37.200 --> 01:17:40.479 John Compton: Right. And and that's all. It's currently the 848 01:17:40.630 --> 01:17:44.930 John Compton: 1st year. But nothing's going to be completed in time. It will have to be in the next year. 849 01:17:45.330 --> 01:17:59.100 marywarfield: And and watching the committee and Ma, amazing amount of effort and energy goes into getting people, you know, helping people through this process and keeping it going. So the the committee has done an amazing job of with this program. I think. 850 01:18:02.710 --> 01:18:03.680 John Compton: Okay, 851 01:18:04.910 --> 01:18:13.930 John Compton: right? Alright. So somebody so you introduced it? Who? Secondary? Seconded further discussion on the renewal of the this program. 852 01:18:13.930 --> 01:18:22.150 Barbara: Yeah, this is this is Barbara, just a little tweak toward towards the very end of it. It says it will initially be funded. 853 01:18:22.320 --> 01:18:27.280 Barbara: But this is the second year. So I think you need to take out initially. 854 01:18:27.280 --> 01:18:28.680 John Compton: The Monday. Of course. 855 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.219 Peter Nagrod: There you go. Yeah. Good catch. 856 01:18:30.220 --> 01:18:30.660 John Compton: Fun. 857 01:18:30.660 --> 01:18:31.350 Barbara: Hit. 858 01:18:32.071 --> 01:18:41.559 John Compton: Right? And i i i at this point I do wanna comment. Nothing prevents the council. Well, at the at the request of the Sustainability Committee 859 01:18:41.820 --> 01:18:44.540 John Compton: of tweaking the program 860 01:18:44.620 --> 01:19:05.979 John Compton: tweaking because because the na, the key thing is that the the program description and operation are found independences A and B, so that's part of the resolution. So the Council could make changes to it. But we're we're we're an argument made that that they would make sense. 861 01:19:06.150 --> 01:19:08.990 John Compton: but for now it continues 862 01:19:09.090 --> 01:19:11.480 John Compton: just as it is today. 863 01:19:12.670 --> 01:19:13.890 John Compton: Any other comments. 864 01:19:14.420 --> 01:19:15.060 Peter Nagrod: No. 865 01:19:15.310 --> 01:19:21.670 John Compton: Alright! All in favor of renewing this program looks like unanimous thanks, everybody 866 01:19:22.160 --> 01:19:23.984 John Compton: getting that taken care of. 867 01:19:26.290 --> 01:19:36.368 John Compton: alright now. The next item is a piece of old business. It's old business, because it was new business. 868 01:19:38.100 --> 01:19:49.640 John Compton: and that is proposed a pro. Some proposed changes to the guidelines to provide for proper government. 869 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:50.170 Peter Nagrod: No. 870 01:19:50.170 --> 01:19:51.859 John Compton: Question and Growth Committees. 871 01:19:52.580 --> 01:19:53.230 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 872 01:19:53.230 --> 01:19:58.010 John Compton: And I'm going to show that when I get it up here somehow. 873 01:19:59.171 --> 01:20:02.379 John Compton: providing for conferences. That's okay. 874 01:20:02.630 --> 01:20:03.800 John Compton: Panish. 875 01:20:04.783 --> 01:20:06.143 John Compton: and this was 876 01:20:07.080 --> 01:20:08.246 John Compton: This was 877 01:20:10.010 --> 01:20:18.770 John Compton: you'll you'll recall that Barbara and Marilyn Fray and I offered to put this together at at the last meeting. 878 01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:22.230 John Compton: and that's this is the outcome of that 879 01:20:24.550 --> 01:20:40.750 John Compton: and I think, for the purposes of referring to it. I think I I'd like it to be introduced as a new resolution. So we can talk about the 2,024 guidelines to committees, and put the 2,019 880 01:20:41.170 --> 01:20:42.870 John Compton: in the record books only. 881 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:44.440 Peter Nagrod: That's. 882 01:20:44.440 --> 01:20:48.000 John Compton: Alright. So hopefully, you guys had a chance to look at it. But. 883 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:48.620 Peter Nagrod: There's. 884 01:20:48.620 --> 01:20:52.420 John Compton: Says is that it revises the the former one. 885 01:20:53.430 --> 01:20:55.512 John Compton: Barbara, you want to go through this. 886 01:20:55.850 --> 01:20:58.149 John Compton: I don't need to be that tough one talking about. 887 01:20:58.150 --> 01:21:06.760 Barbara: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's pretty simple some of these were just tweaks like Mayor and town council. 888 01:21:07.185 --> 01:21:18.240 Barbara: Oh, in fact, wait a minute. I see now the 1st line is a little bit of a Google, whereas the mayor and town of Washington. Oh, no, that's right. Never mind, I'm sorry. 889 01:21:19.820 --> 01:21:24.296 Barbara: yeah, so it it's just about it. It came up that 890 01:21:25.150 --> 01:21:32.995 Barbara: there were discussions about who could lead the committees and vote on the committees, and this really just addresses that. 891 01:21:34.570 --> 01:21:43.179 Barbara: I I don't know. So so some of it is just we say the Mayor and town council that was just kind of clean. Clean it up talking about the town policies. 892 01:21:43.817 --> 01:21:53.899 Barbara: The committees, you know. There's just a little bit more clean up there. And this is more of the key part voting members should be town residents. 893 01:21:55.096 --> 01:22:06.210 Barbara: And then in in e non residents should not hold leadership positions and then the last sentence here that was a kind of like an awkward 894 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.080 Barbara: thing from the previous 895 01:22:10.684 --> 01:22:16.364 Barbara: resolution. So it I just cleaned that up elected town official should not service committee officers 896 01:22:17.450 --> 01:22:26.090 Barbara: there. There was one other that was was forwarded to me today that in the last, whereas 897 01:22:26.460 --> 01:22:27.860 Barbara: let's see. 898 01:22:32.430 --> 01:22:37.120 Barbara: okay, yeah. In the last, whereas the word recommended be removed 899 01:22:40.040 --> 01:22:42.920 Barbara: to establish certain best practices 900 01:22:45.140 --> 01:22:46.400 Barbara: that makes sense. 901 01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:48.200 John Compton: Doesn't really mean it much right? 902 01:22:51.770 --> 01:22:55.520 Barbara: So, you know, I'd I'd move to to introduce this. 903 01:22:56.860 --> 01:22:58.139 Peter Nagrod: Oh, I'll second it. 904 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:21.089 Peter Nagrod: I think it's great. I think that there's there was a lot of confusion and concern about there wasn't clarity about who can be members who can vote and everything else. And I think this is really helpful as far as providing that clarity to the town. I think it. It reflects what a lot of people are looking for. 905 01:23:23.629 --> 01:23:26.410 John Compton: I i i do need to make a comment 906 01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:30.199 John Compton: just because we're constantly revisiting 907 01:23:30.933 --> 01:23:36.980 John Compton: whether or not the the these committees are actually official 908 01:23:37.420 --> 01:23:40.719 John Compton: town conducting official town business. 909 01:23:41.200 --> 01:23:49.839 John Compton: And the answer is, and and this this, the original recommendate the original guidelines from 2,019. 910 01:23:50.030 --> 01:23:52.424 John Compton: We're carefully 911 01:23:55.140 --> 01:24:00.339 John Compton: recognize the fact that the the committee should be entirely volunteer. 912 01:24:00.390 --> 01:24:06.329 John Compton: So nobody's being appointed any of these committees, no chairs are being appointed. 913 01:24:06.450 --> 01:24:10.049 John Compton: no members of being appointed. They're all volunteers, and 914 01:24:10.140 --> 01:24:17.210 John Compton: I don't need to tell you guys, the town has operated very effectively for years with this system. 915 01:24:18.181 --> 01:24:22.040 John Compton: Some committees have been around a long time for us. 916 01:24:22.080 --> 01:24:35.920 John Compton: They made by different name, but the wood of Woods Committee been around a long time. The Lake Committee's been around a long time. There have been resolutions which have directed you know, have have to have have not directed, but have 917 01:24:36.636 --> 01:24:41.650 John Compton: provided resources to the committees for their activities. 918 01:24:41.690 --> 01:24:46.608 John Compton: I still maintain. The best way to look at them is that they are 919 01:24:47.020 --> 01:24:49.860 John Compton: they are our volunteer staff. 920 01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:59.411 John Compton: and the town, in fact, is, enters into a contract, not a formal contract, but we we 921 01:25:03.575 --> 01:25:05.304 John Compton: agree that 922 01:25:06.360 --> 01:25:08.790 John Compton: we recognize certain committees 923 01:25:09.525 --> 01:25:13.829 John Compton: as providing the town valuable advice 924 01:25:13.990 --> 01:25:19.909 John Compton: and or valuable services in maintaining facilities. 925 01:25:20.130 --> 01:25:27.720 John Compton: And that's their charge, and that's the service they bring, and we recognize that the Council recognizes that. 926 01:25:27.830 --> 01:25:39.180 John Compton: and as a consequence, we we have in the budget funds that reflect the the needs of those committees to provide the services that the town 927 01:25:39.987 --> 01:25:41.631 John Compton: the town has 928 01:25:42.767 --> 01:25:46.319 John Compton: recognized as being valuable to the town. 929 01:25:46.912 --> 01:25:54.100 John Compton: So it's kind of like a contractor without in a formal contract. And we've maintained that this 930 01:25:54.110 --> 01:25:59.281 John Compton: resolution, the original resolution and this one 931 01:26:00.540 --> 01:26:05.860 John Compton: is called guidelines. Basically, because there's a 932 01:26:07.400 --> 01:26:09.858 John Compton: The the council wanted to 933 01:26:10.740 --> 01:26:19.849 John Compton: ensure that all the committees that we recognize operate to. In a way that encourages the most volunteerism. 934 01:26:19.910 --> 01:26:35.369 John Compton: Nobody's paid, so they have to be donating their time, and many people in town are not interested in getting on a an official organized committee like our our work set our work groups 935 01:26:35.870 --> 01:26:43.940 John Compton: or the the planning commission or the Hpc. Where there's role a a good deal, or rules, etc. 936 01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:52.550 John Compton: But the the Council felt that the the the committee should follow certain procedures that would 937 01:26:52.690 --> 01:26:54.660 John Compton: that would enhance. 938 01:26:54.660 --> 01:26:55.550 Paula Puglisi: We can protect. 939 01:26:55.550 --> 01:26:56.820 John Compton: Volunteerism. 940 01:26:56.870 --> 01:26:58.819 John Compton: So that's what this is all about. 941 01:26:59.070 --> 01:27:00.509 John Compton: and the the way it is. 942 01:27:00.510 --> 01:27:01.070 Paula Puglisi: Excuse me. 943 01:27:01.400 --> 01:27:05.430 John Compton: This latest version is exactly in those in that vein. 944 01:27:06.430 --> 01:27:34.380 John Compton: You know the the the there was concern that you know. If we have a committee involved in town business and and and serving the town, that it'd be people who live in the town that guide their recommendations or their their work or their activities. And so this kind of is added that you know, basically, I think, in my view, the the Council is saying, you know. 945 01:27:34.380 --> 01:27:48.369 John Compton: operate this way. And yeah, and and we, we can continue to have a very useful relationship. And we will continue to support and and recognize your contributions. 946 01:27:48.910 --> 01:27:49.560 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 947 01:27:51.130 --> 01:28:00.239 John Compton: Sure I can say that in a better way, and some of you will would send it in a different way. But that's the way. Basically the way we view this. 948 01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:02.500 John Compton: you know. 949 01:28:02.710 --> 01:28:06.589 John Compton: I will repeat now as frequently as it comes up. 950 01:28:07.373 --> 01:28:15.090 John Compton: Authorizations to spend money. It. It is, the committees do not have authority to spend money 951 01:28:15.190 --> 01:28:19.090 John Compton: in any way, that is, unless it is approved 952 01:28:19.965 --> 01:28:23.479 John Compton: spending. But I both in 953 01:28:23.620 --> 01:28:29.239 John Compton: the town's budgeting process, and by the treasurer and or by me 954 01:28:30.068 --> 01:28:34.450 John Compton: or the council so, or in in the case of 955 01:28:34.450 --> 01:28:59.720 John Compton: you know proposals that would impact, you know, are beyond, you know, providing food for a you know, music weekend. But you know something that would would alter the facilities around town. Then the Council may would would be involved in listening to the recommendations. And you know. 956 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.829 John Compton: approving what the activities were. 957 01:29:04.530 --> 01:29:12.009 John Compton: okay, I'm done. I'm gonna let the council talk first.st I see Patty has her hand up, but we'll have to see 958 01:29:12.210 --> 01:29:13.599 John Compton: anyone else has. 959 01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:15.630 Peter Nagrod: I don't mean. 960 01:29:15.630 --> 01:29:17.262 John Compton: To say about this. 961 01:29:18.270 --> 01:29:20.149 John Compton: go ahead. Anyone. 962 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:47.459 Barbara: Oh, this is Barbara. I just wanna say a lot of. When we talked last time there was a lot of discussion about, you know the expenditure of funds, you know, which you just mentioned, John. But the committees, you know, with their recommendations, they really use a lot of town resources when many people in town discuss something that's being proposed. So it's not just financial resources. It's kind of like the time and attention of of town residents as well. 963 01:29:47.460 --> 01:29:51.059 Barbara: And so that's why we wanna make sure that 964 01:29:51.510 --> 01:29:55.810 Barbara: those decisions and those recommendations are made by town residents. 965 01:30:00.590 --> 01:30:05.029 John Compton: Okay. If nobody has any other contact, I'll let Patty Patty go ahead. 966 01:30:06.070 --> 01:30:06.789 Patrice Klein: Would you mind. 967 01:30:06.790 --> 01:30:09.340 Paula Puglisi: I do. Polly does, too, after Patty. Please. 968 01:30:09.340 --> 01:30:10.490 John Compton: I'm sorry. Man. 969 01:30:10.740 --> 01:30:12.529 John Compton: Sorry. Sorry, Paul. 970 01:30:12.530 --> 01:30:13.020 Patrice Klein: That's okay. 971 01:30:13.020 --> 01:30:13.610 Paula Puglisi: No problem. 972 01:30:13.610 --> 01:30:19.419 Patrice Klein: Share your screen again. I wanted to point to one of the edit. It's a very nicely edited 973 01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:21.740 Patrice Klein: document. 974 01:30:23.580 --> 01:30:26.669 Patrice Klein: Lower. Sorry. Let me lower my hand. Get that out of the way. First, st 975 01:30:27.040 --> 01:30:29.830 Patrice Klein: do that. Very good. Go to the top 976 01:30:30.610 --> 01:30:36.389 Patrice Klein: the first, st whereas, okay, let me see. Okay, so in the sentence. The mayor. 977 01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:42.610 Patrice Klein: I guess. Comma town of Washington Grove and Town council, blah blah blah benefit from volunteer citizen committees 978 01:30:42.790 --> 01:30:49.760 Patrice Klein: and other places in the. Whereas section you talk specifically about town residents. So I just want to be 979 01:30:49.990 --> 01:30:51.780 Patrice Klein: clear that 980 01:30:52.130 --> 01:30:59.600 Patrice Klein: the committees should be comprised of town residents, some of whom may be officers, and you know the members can vote. 981 01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:01.060 Patrice Klein: It doesn't mean 982 01:31:01.390 --> 01:31:08.489 Patrice Klein: we're just not negate that they are open meetings in general, right? The town committees have open meetings, and other people can participate. 983 01:31:08.550 --> 01:31:09.850 Patrice Klein: So I just want to be 984 01:31:09.970 --> 01:31:13.439 Patrice Klein: a little clear in the language in that 1st sentence. Do we 985 01:31:14.020 --> 01:31:16.000 Patrice Klein: mean volunteer 986 01:31:16.030 --> 01:31:27.199 Patrice Klein: town resident or volunteer citizen committees that are comprised of town residents because you say that in the other section. So I just want to be clear who's a member of the town. 987 01:31:27.700 --> 01:31:28.710 Patrice Klein: Kevin. 988 01:31:31.180 --> 01:31:39.289 John Compton: Well, this I I don't think this speaks to members of the community. It's it's a whereas whereas we have benefited from volunteer. 989 01:31:39.850 --> 01:31:44.060 John Compton: you are you saying we shouldn't include citizen about everybody? 990 01:31:44.060 --> 01:32:01.480 Patrice Klein: No, I'm just. I'm just being clear on the words. If you go to the next, where, as it says, recognize number of such committees of volunteer residents. So I just want to make sure the language is consistent. That's all that. It is open to other folks who want to attend our town committee meetings, but I wanted to be a little 991 01:32:01.500 --> 01:32:03.330 Patrice Klein: clear that we're talking about 992 01:32:03.370 --> 01:32:05.709 Patrice Klein: town residents that are the members of the. 993 01:32:05.710 --> 01:32:06.310 Paula Puglisi: Mini. 994 01:32:06.310 --> 01:32:08.070 Patrice Klein: And also have voting privileges. 995 01:32:08.080 --> 01:32:09.370 Peter Nagrod: Hmm, yeah, that's. 996 01:32:09.370 --> 01:32:10.020 Paula Puglisi: Steve, yeah. 997 01:32:10.020 --> 01:32:17.489 John Compton: Yeah, I think that's that's what the bought, the the the I mean. All the warehouses are just rationals. 998 01:32:17.897 --> 01:32:23.440 John Compton: You know. And and and the description was to what the what, what the actual resolution is about. 999 01:32:23.490 --> 01:32:29.619 John Compton: Resolution now states quite clearly that voting members should be town residents. 1000 01:32:30.020 --> 01:32:30.460 Patrice Klein: Right. 1001 01:32:30.460 --> 01:32:32.849 John Compton: That's correct, not me. And there can't be other men. 1002 01:32:35.030 --> 01:32:39.229 John Compton: Anywhere we say anything about. Only town residents may be members. 1003 01:32:40.550 --> 01:32:46.019 Patrice Klein: Well is that the clarification? Are we saying that only town residents can be members of the committees. 1004 01:32:46.530 --> 01:32:49.549 John Compton: I don't think so. I don't think anywhere, says that. 1005 01:32:49.550 --> 01:32:52.440 Patrice Klein: Okay, that would be part of my 1006 01:32:52.460 --> 01:33:00.550 Patrice Klein: suggestion is because, again, you know, we're expending town funds on recommendations from committees. Those are tax dollars that all of us pay. 1007 01:33:00.690 --> 01:33:03.700 Patrice Klein: Other people can always attend our committee meetings from 1008 01:33:04.280 --> 01:33:07.449 Patrice Klein: wherever they come from. You know whatever part of the world they are, that's. 1009 01:33:07.450 --> 01:33:07.800 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1010 01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:18.220 Patrice Klein: It's an open meeting. But I worry particularly about the voting and how the committees are established. It is about our our town decisions, and I just want to be careful that. 1011 01:33:19.470 --> 01:33:20.330 John Compton: Ok. 1012 01:33:20.330 --> 01:33:21.500 Patrice Klein: Proper representation of. 1013 01:33:21.500 --> 01:33:25.460 John Compton: Alright. I think we understand who it is. I think you have any comments on that. 1014 01:33:26.290 --> 01:33:30.399 Patrice Klein: Thank you. I appreciate it. It's it's nicely edited. I just wanted to give you that comment. 1015 01:33:30.980 --> 01:33:31.580 Peter Nagrod: You know. 1016 01:33:34.550 --> 01:33:36.730 John Compton: Alright, Paula, I think you have her next step. 1017 01:33:38.510 --> 01:33:40.137 Paula Puglisi: since this was 1018 01:33:40.780 --> 01:33:45.360 Paula Puglisi: thought about because of Ray 6. Having nonresidents on the committee. 1019 01:33:46.140 --> 01:33:50.540 Paula Puglisi: I i i can understand a legitimate discussion 1020 01:33:50.590 --> 01:33:57.190 Paula Puglisi: about voting members and spending town money. I I get that that makes sense. 1021 01:33:57.823 --> 01:34:01.559 Paula Puglisi: What I don't understand. Well, before I get into that. 1022 01:34:01.910 --> 01:34:06.720 Paula Puglisi: can you define what? What that one line about best practices? 1023 01:34:07.060 --> 01:34:12.669 Paula Puglisi: Where do the best practices come from? With that attached to the Open Meetings act. 1024 01:34:14.930 --> 01:34:16.929 John Compton: Sure why that is so. 1025 01:34:17.440 --> 01:34:20.489 Paula Puglisi: There's just a reference that sounded kind of vague. 1026 01:34:20.550 --> 01:34:22.760 Paula Puglisi: but maybe it was attached to that. 1027 01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:25.290 John Compton: No, i i i don't think I yeah. So. 1028 01:34:25.290 --> 01:34:25.930 Paula Puglisi: What? 1029 01:34:25.930 --> 01:34:31.237 John Compton: I see where it is, and I believe toggle on if I can get it back up. 1030 01:34:31.650 --> 01:34:33.180 John Compton: if we haven't. 1031 01:34:33.910 --> 01:34:40.709 John Compton: Yeah, I think I think the the way it's worded that that these guidelines are the best practices. 1032 01:34:41.090 --> 01:34:42.060 Paula Puglisi: Oh, okay. 1033 01:34:42.440 --> 01:34:43.859 Peter Nagrod: That would make more sense. 1034 01:34:43.860 --> 01:34:47.190 John Compton: To establish certain best practices, so. 1035 01:34:47.190 --> 01:34:47.770 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1036 01:34:47.770 --> 01:34:49.559 John Compton: Establishing best practice. 1037 01:34:49.970 --> 01:34:51.560 Paula Puglisi: Okay, okay. 1038 01:34:52.338 --> 01:34:55.169 Paula Puglisi: and so I guess. 1039 01:34:55.936 --> 01:35:05.260 Paula Puglisi: My only objection is non residents being what what I understood Patty to say. Maybe I didn't understand it right 1040 01:35:05.300 --> 01:35:06.870 Paula Puglisi: was that then 1041 01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:09.600 Paula Puglisi: non-residents 1042 01:35:09.950 --> 01:35:12.160 Paula Puglisi: would not be able to 1043 01:35:12.580 --> 01:35:19.629 Paula Puglisi: actually participate in any they would be able to attend, but not really participate. Am I. Is that, wrong or not? 1044 01:35:22.600 --> 01:35:28.980 Barbara: This. This is. This doesn't exclude anyone from participating on the committee. This is about the leadership and the voting. 1045 01:35:28.980 --> 01:35:33.869 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. Well, the leadership, but restricting non residents 1046 01:35:33.890 --> 01:35:37.920 Paula Puglisi: from leadership roles I do not understand. 1047 01:35:37.980 --> 01:35:39.390 Paula Puglisi: because 1048 01:35:41.330 --> 01:35:45.929 Paula Puglisi: we have had the experience at racehic where nonresidents 1049 01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:47.080 Paula Puglisi: have 1050 01:35:47.260 --> 01:35:53.729 Paula Puglisi: provided shape, have shaped policies through ideas and perspectives 1051 01:35:54.120 --> 01:35:55.890 Paula Puglisi: that enrich 1052 01:35:56.080 --> 01:36:02.900 Paula Puglisi: us because many people have talked about how the town resist change 1053 01:36:02.950 --> 01:36:09.430 Paula Puglisi: and how it's pretty insular. And so, especially on a committee like racic 1054 01:36:09.980 --> 01:36:25.969 Paula Puglisi: other perspectives are really helpful in shaping policy. And if you want to say Okay, they can't be voter. They can't be voting members, you know. That's up to you. I understand that can be a legitimate discussion, so 1055 01:36:25.970 --> 01:36:41.600 Paula Puglisi: the policy can be voted down, but I do not understand restricting them from leadership positions where we can gain different perspectives. And we have, and where some nonresidents have really given up their time generously. 1056 01:36:42.186 --> 01:36:52.020 Paula Puglisi: In order to help shape very positive policies. So I don't understand the restriction on leadership positions when 1057 01:36:52.090 --> 01:36:55.130 Paula Puglisi: you know the policy could be voted down. 1058 01:36:55.170 --> 01:36:56.910 Paula Puglisi: If it's not 1059 01:36:58.130 --> 01:36:59.120 Paula Puglisi: preferred. 1060 01:37:04.540 --> 01:37:07.410 Paula Puglisi: I mean, we need all the perspectives we can get. 1061 01:37:09.110 --> 01:37:10.810 Paula Puglisi: especially on that committee. 1062 01:37:15.170 --> 01:37:20.089 John Compton: So let let me just let me just state something. That is the case for 1063 01:37:20.210 --> 01:37:22.610 John Compton: a number of 1064 01:37:23.120 --> 01:37:27.509 John Compton: of of board, of of organizations, foundations. 1065 01:37:28.072 --> 01:37:34.219 John Compton: Nonprofit that I have been on, and actually that I'm currently currently on 1066 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:39.370 John Compton: and that is that that 1067 01:37:39.570 --> 01:37:45.030 John Compton: the participation of individual, in fact, individuals are invited to participate 1068 01:37:45.674 --> 01:37:51.020 John Compton: to the committees of the organization expertise that's valuable 1069 01:37:51.290 --> 01:37:52.799 John Compton: to the organization. 1070 01:37:53.080 --> 01:37:53.885 John Compton: So 1071 01:37:55.480 --> 01:37:58.360 John Compton: we, we, we explicitly 1072 01:37:59.100 --> 01:38:00.240 John Compton: enable 1073 01:38:00.460 --> 01:38:06.659 John Compton: those individuals who are interested in helping out the organization 1074 01:38:06.890 --> 01:38:11.360 John Compton: to to be participate on committees 1075 01:38:12.041 --> 01:38:22.089 John Compton: and to help help the committee do its do its business. And that may be something, you know, really specific, like financial expertise. 1076 01:38:22.635 --> 01:38:25.784 John Compton: It could be something like 1077 01:38:26.380 --> 01:38:35.600 John Compton: like event, expertise. That sort of thing. So it's not, you know. This is. 1078 01:38:35.990 --> 01:38:38.240 John Compton: I think, consistent with the way 1079 01:38:39.050 --> 01:38:40.540 John Compton: what you expressed. 1080 01:38:41.730 --> 01:38:43.629 John Compton: that that 1081 01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:53.540 John Compton: allowing and encouraging even non residents to participate on the committees is probably a very valuable thing. 1082 01:38:54.534 --> 01:39:07.352 John Compton: I, I would agree, is a valuable thing. And and maybe I started here. You're still looking at this, thinking that maybe we need another, whereas that that that 1083 01:39:09.060 --> 01:39:11.559 John Compton: that that that 1084 01:39:11.990 --> 01:39:23.589 John Compton: specifically acknowledges that non residents w will be valuable can can be valuable to the committee. 1085 01:39:24.892 --> 01:39:27.029 John Compton: business, and and 1086 01:39:27.040 --> 01:39:29.089 John Compton: you know, should be encouraged 1087 01:39:29.410 --> 01:39:30.710 John Compton: that that would. 1088 01:39:30.910 --> 01:39:32.250 John Compton: Basically. 1089 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:36.439 John Compton: it may be explicit. But I think the discussion started with Patty's point 1090 01:39:36.480 --> 01:39:42.569 John Compton: is what it? What? Why is there a role for nonresidents on the town's committees? 1091 01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:45.330 John Compton: So by by acknowledging there is a role. 1092 01:39:45.460 --> 01:39:49.140 John Compton: and then the resolution goes on to say, but 1093 01:39:49.380 --> 01:39:55.249 John Compton: nonresidents are not to be routing members and should not be in the leadership position. 1094 01:39:56.570 --> 01:39:57.230 John Compton: perfect, sure. 1095 01:39:57.230 --> 01:39:57.930 Paula Puglisi: Table. 1096 01:39:57.930 --> 01:40:03.539 John Compton: i i i mean, I'm only making a suggestion that would make explicit that nonresidents are welcome on the committees. 1097 01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:13.259 Paula Puglisi: yeah. Because it really seems like nobody want. But like, like, there is a move just to have kick off all non residents. 1098 01:40:13.260 --> 01:40:14.279 John Compton: No, I don't think that. 1099 01:40:14.280 --> 01:40:14.630 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1100 01:40:14.630 --> 01:40:15.200 John Compton: Well. 1101 01:40:15.200 --> 01:40:17.919 Barbara: No, that's not. That's not what this is about at all. 1102 01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:23.470 Paula Puglisi: Okay. Okay? Then then that does make sense. Okay, that does make sense to. At least. 1103 01:40:23.790 --> 01:40:32.709 Paula Puglisi: if you're going to restrict leadership positions to at least make it clear that nonresidents are welcome and encouraged 1104 01:40:32.780 --> 01:40:34.510 Paula Puglisi: to participate 1105 01:40:34.650 --> 01:40:37.710 Paula Puglisi: and offer ideas and perspectives. 1106 01:40:37.710 --> 01:40:39.390 John Compton: Yes, okay, that's good. 1107 01:40:57.220 --> 01:40:59.510 Ann Philips: I asked for clarification. 1108 01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:02.920 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. 1109 01:41:03.510 --> 01:41:04.230 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1110 01:41:04.230 --> 01:41:06.710 Ann Philips: Oh, Hi, John! Hi! Can you hear me? 1111 01:41:09.120 --> 01:41:10.019 Ann Philips: I just 1112 01:41:10.380 --> 01:41:24.480 Ann Philips: are people who are renting I it looked like a 1 place. I can't see the whole document, but it said it looked like it said proper, the owners in one place, but residents and many other places. Wh. What about people who rent 1113 01:41:24.500 --> 01:41:26.200 Ann Philips: houses in town 1114 01:41:26.320 --> 01:41:30.930 Ann Philips: might might be long term renters or short term renters, or would they? 1115 01:41:31.690 --> 01:41:35.519 Ann Philips: And I? It's not that I didn't see the word renting. 1116 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:46.020 Barbara: No, there's no renters in this is Barbara. There's nothing about renters in here. It talks about residents. Residents is the term that's used most often in here, so if they rent here, they're a resident. 1117 01:41:46.550 --> 01:41:48.470 Ann Philips: Did you see the term property owner. 1118 01:41:48.470 --> 01:41:49.630 Barbara: I see it here. Yeah, but. 1119 01:41:49.630 --> 01:41:50.610 Ann Philips: So I did this. 1120 01:41:50.610 --> 01:41:54.350 John Compton: I now have it. It's it's it's it's got a slash 1121 01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:57.679 John Compton: to make equivalent residents and property owners. 1122 01:41:57.680 --> 01:41:58.370 Barbara: Right? 1123 01:41:58.660 --> 01:42:00.359 Barbara: So they could be either. One. 1124 01:42:00.500 --> 01:42:01.190 Barbara: Yeah. 1125 01:42:01.190 --> 01:42:05.839 Ann Philips: Okay. Good. Okay. Red. Okay, very good. Thank you. That was my question. Thanks. 1126 01:42:06.190 --> 01:42:10.029 John Compton: Right and and and just as a I think, a matter of. 1127 01:42:10.240 --> 01:42:10.555 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1128 01:42:10.870 --> 01:42:12.399 John Compton: My point of view. 1129 01:42:12.530 --> 01:42:15.930 John Compton: the Residency requirement in in 1130 01:42:16.150 --> 01:42:19.600 John Compton: the State of Mary or in Montgomery County, is very short. 1131 01:42:19.950 --> 01:42:24.090 John Compton: You're you're considered a resident after what? 30 days, or something like that? 1132 01:42:26.170 --> 01:42:36.210 John Compton: I'm not sure what the number is, but that would probably I would certainly be the same here in town, so you become a resident, whether you're a render or not, you're still resident. 1133 01:42:36.782 --> 01:42:41.860 John Compton: If you've been here more than what the requisite, if you've been here the requisite number of weeks. 1134 01:42:41.870 --> 01:42:43.390 John Compton: So I think that also 1135 01:42:44.380 --> 01:42:46.489 John Compton: bears on your point. And. 1136 01:42:47.410 --> 01:42:49.170 Ann Philips: Okay, thanks. Thank you. 1137 01:42:49.830 --> 01:42:54.979 John Compton: I don't think would exclude. someone who has a longer rental longer than 1138 01:42:56.250 --> 01:42:58.058 John Compton: whatever that time period is. 1139 01:42:58.620 --> 01:42:59.280 Paula Puglisi: Us. 1140 01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:06.706 John Compton: Alright. I was trying to put together a a a new, whereas to to 1141 01:43:10.090 --> 01:43:19.640 John Compton: to clarify this, and I'm not. I'm not number not there yet, the Town hall and committees in the town, whereas don't this is gonna have a warehouse in front of it. 1142 01:43:19.850 --> 01:43:20.850 John Compton: just checking. 1143 01:43:21.040 --> 01:43:28.090 John Compton: Make that clear. Whereas town only brings in the town benefit from the participation 1144 01:43:28.190 --> 01:43:31.580 John Compton: of non residents. 1145 01:43:34.160 --> 01:43:35.279 John Compton: Perspective? Yeah. 1146 01:43:35.280 --> 01:43:36.090 Paula Puglisi: And ideas. 1147 01:43:36.240 --> 01:43:38.610 John Compton: You made a statement about. 1148 01:43:38.610 --> 01:43:45.179 Paula Puglisi: Yeah, something about the benefit, and are encouraged to participate, to offer their perspective 1149 01:43:45.270 --> 01:43:46.990 Paula Puglisi: and ideas. 1150 01:43:47.617 --> 01:43:49.649 Paula Puglisi: their perspectives and ideas. 1151 01:43:52.060 --> 01:43:57.240 Patrice Klein: Give me for overspeaking, but you can include that in the whereas that's above that, you don't need to have a separate. 1152 01:43:57.240 --> 01:43:59.019 John Compton: Yeah, let me just get it down first.st Okay. 1153 01:43:59.020 --> 01:44:01.240 Patrice Klein: Okay, I'm just saying you may combine the 2. 1154 01:44:01.240 --> 01:44:05.390 John Compton: And yeah, may may, and and committees 1155 01:44:07.310 --> 01:44:08.090 John Compton: lucky 1156 01:44:09.690 --> 01:44:11.290 John Compton: may encourage. 1157 01:44:17.885 --> 01:44:18.600 John Compton: There. 1158 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:21.070 Paula Puglisi: Their perspectives and ideas. 1159 01:44:21.070 --> 01:44:21.670 John Compton: There 1160 01:44:30.100 --> 01:44:36.750 Paula Puglisi: I think it needs a separate, whereas because that really isn't clear at all to me that they're welcome at all from everything else. 1161 01:44:44.610 --> 01:44:54.207 Barbara: Well, you say it's not clear. This is Barbara. You say it's not clear that they're welcome, but you do have non residents on your committee who have been welcomed. So how would that. 1162 01:44:54.490 --> 01:44:56.289 Paula Puglisi: And about this resolution. 1163 01:44:56.730 --> 01:44:57.620 Paula Puglisi: I'm just talking. 1164 01:44:57.985 --> 01:45:01.644 Barbara: But the resolution doesn't change anything that was in place. 1165 01:45:02.010 --> 01:45:02.870 Paula Puglisi: Well, they don't. 1166 01:45:02.870 --> 01:45:05.500 Barbara: Resident participation before. 1167 01:45:05.500 --> 01:45:06.250 Liz Everhart: Yeah, and it's just. 1168 01:45:06.250 --> 01:45:06.910 Paula Puglisi: No. 1169 01:45:06.910 --> 01:45:08.820 Liz Everhart: Leadership positions and voting. 1170 01:45:08.820 --> 01:45:10.930 Paula Puglisi: Right? So it does change. 1171 01:45:10.930 --> 01:45:12.230 Liz Everhart: Great! Yes. 1172 01:45:12.230 --> 01:45:19.687 Paula Puglisi: It does change on our committee, though in terms of leadership position. So there are changes. It is restricting. 1173 01:45:20.780 --> 01:45:21.670 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1174 01:45:22.770 --> 01:45:30.269 Paula Puglisi: so I think that we need to make that very clear there, since this is going to obviously be much more restrictive. 1175 01:45:32.930 --> 01:45:34.510 Patrice Klein: Make a comment if you go to the. 1176 01:45:34.510 --> 01:45:35.160 Barbara: We are. 1177 01:45:35.160 --> 01:45:47.669 Patrice Klein: Above that you can just say nonresidents to volunteer their energy, comma perspectives, ideas, and expertise to benefit the town by participating on these committees period. You've now combined. 1178 01:45:47.670 --> 01:45:48.380 Peter Nagrod: Claims. 1179 01:45:48.380 --> 01:45:57.710 Patrice Klein: The 2, and you haven't lost any of the value. Seems to me it's redundant to have a second one. This is a resolution about town committees. 1180 01:45:58.110 --> 01:46:01.979 Patrice Klein: That's the focus who is on them is what's the problem. 1181 01:46:01.980 --> 01:46:06.490 Paula Puglisi: With the separate, whereas why is this going to be such a fight? 1182 01:46:06.490 --> 01:46:09.026 Patrice Klein: Let me explain. I just explained. You can come. 1183 01:46:09.280 --> 01:46:10.435 Paula Puglisi: Yeah, I'm good. 1184 01:46:10.820 --> 01:46:11.699 Patrice Klein: And make it 1185 01:46:11.850 --> 01:46:23.170 Patrice Klein: more concise without having to be repetitious. You're saying that you want residents and non residents to volunteer their energy, their perspectives, ideas, and expertise 1186 01:46:23.270 --> 01:46:24.310 Patrice Klein: all 4 1187 01:46:24.420 --> 01:46:26.699 Patrice Klein: to the benefit of the town. That's what. 1188 01:46:26.700 --> 01:46:27.610 Paula Puglisi: This is about. 1189 01:46:27.740 --> 01:46:32.019 Patrice Klein: The benefit to the town. So you really don't need to say it twice. 1190 01:46:32.470 --> 01:46:34.270 Patrice Klein: because that's what the second one. 1191 01:46:34.690 --> 01:46:37.770 Paula Puglisi: The second one is specifically talking about non residents. 1192 01:46:37.770 --> 01:46:42.619 Patrice Klein: So does the other ones. His residents and nonresidents volunteer their energy. 1193 01:46:42.620 --> 01:46:44.009 Paula Puglisi: Me a bit. Yeah. 1194 01:46:44.010 --> 01:46:48.838 Patrice Klein: Perspective, their ideas and their expertise. You are combining them into the same single one. 1195 01:46:49.160 --> 01:46:50.569 Paula Puglisi: But what I'm trying to say. 1196 01:46:50.570 --> 01:46:56.700 Barbara: John John, I have a procedural question here I have a procedural question here. 1197 01:46:56.700 --> 01:46:57.680 Paula Puglisi: And we go. 1198 01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:20.470 Barbara: This is a town council meeting, and we are town counselors who are responsible for writing the drafting these resolutions, making the motions. Ca, considering any edits and voting on them. And we have now a group of 36 people who are now writing this resolution, I suggest that we stop right now. 1199 01:47:20.480 --> 01:47:37.870 Barbara: We leave this open for a month, and then anybody who has a suggestion can send it to us in writing. We can consider it. And during the next meeting we can decide which of these edits we wanna include in this. This is really out of order, which this idea of 1200 01:47:37.870 --> 01:47:51.274 Barbara: adding these comments just because somebody's calling them out. So that is my suggestion that we hold on this until next month. People can write their comments to us, and we can consider them and include the ones that we feel should be included next month. 1201 01:47:51.560 --> 01:47:56.149 Peter Nagrod: Right. But but there's also a motion. There's a motion out there. Correct. 1202 01:47:56.150 --> 01:47:59.330 Barbara: Yeah, well, I can wait. We we can hold them both on there. 1203 01:47:59.330 --> 01:48:00.090 Peter Nagrod: Even with. 1204 01:48:00.090 --> 01:48:11.823 Barbara: No, no, no, we. We can hold the vote on this until the next meeting, or until if to me, I mean we can. We don't have to vote on this just because there was a motion tonight. We don't have to vote tonight. 1205 01:48:12.090 --> 01:48:12.639 Peter Nagrod: I agree with you. 1206 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:13.519 Barbara: I know that's. 1207 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.949 Peter Nagrod: Totally. I agree with you, a hundred percent. This is getting out of control. 1208 01:48:16.950 --> 01:48:27.780 Barbara: Right. And, in fact, with all of these changes that people are wanting to put in, it would not be a good idea to vote on it tonight, because we should have some time to think about it and sleep on it and chew on it. 1209 01:48:27.810 --> 01:48:30.130 Barbara: So that is my suggestion that the 1210 01:48:30.410 --> 01:48:42.300 Barbara: that that we stop now, and anybody who wants to make comments send it in writing to us, and we consider it and potentially include it. If if we agree that that it should be included 1211 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:43.160 Barbara: John, so. 1212 01:48:43.160 --> 01:48:51.129 Paula Puglisi: So would that be said to the community about making comments? Where will that be announced that people are free to do that? 1213 01:48:51.130 --> 01:48:53.000 Barbara: People are always free to do that. 1214 01:48:53.300 --> 01:48:53.720 Paula Puglisi: I know. 1215 01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:54.800 Barbara: Always make, you know. 1216 01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:58.079 Paula Puglisi: Clear that this is open. This particular thing is open. Yeah. 1217 01:48:58.080 --> 01:49:03.109 Barbara: Yes, it'll be in the minutes. It'll be in the minutes. That that was the decision that was made. 1218 01:49:03.110 --> 01:49:05.676 John Compton: We'll also be in the Bulletin. We use the bulletin, too. 1219 01:49:05.910 --> 01:49:06.850 Paula Puglisi: Too good, more. 1220 01:49:06.850 --> 01:49:07.879 John Compton: And actions. I'm like. 1221 01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:10.489 Nan: Richard and Richard have had their hand up for about half. 1222 01:49:10.490 --> 01:49:12.700 Barbara: So, John, are you agreeable to that. 1223 01:49:12.700 --> 01:49:16.060 John Compton: That's a very good suggestion. I wish I 1224 01:49:16.790 --> 01:49:20.230 John Compton: right off the top. I have no idea we would get into a 1225 01:49:20.280 --> 01:49:21.840 John Compton: and get into a 1226 01:49:22.930 --> 01:49:29.129 John Compton: Further discussion. I mean, it's perfectly possible. For for other suggestions be made 1227 01:49:29.290 --> 01:49:37.869 John Compton: with respecting guidelines. So it's appropriate for us to introduce this. Discuss the reasons for the way it's written 1228 01:49:37.900 --> 01:49:39.790 John Compton: at the introduction. 1229 01:49:39.860 --> 01:49:45.249 John Compton: and now in to to allow a month 1230 01:49:45.260 --> 01:49:50.000 John Compton: at least go by for comment on this resolution. 1231 01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:50.380 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1232 01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:55.003 John Compton: Okay. So we got a couple of comments. Still, I assume Gretchen and. 1233 01:49:55.330 --> 01:50:09.509 Barbara: But I'm suggesting that they are held because it's not fair to go along with a couple of people, and maybe there's 10 other people who just didn't put their hand up yet, and so like, let's stop. This is really not a good way to run a meeting. 1234 01:50:09.510 --> 01:50:11.439 John Compton: I think you were objecting. 1235 01:50:12.700 --> 01:50:14.999 John Compton: We either take it today or we take it 1236 01:50:15.990 --> 01:50:23.419 John Compton: next month. People making. This is the this is the public appearance on this issue. 1237 01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:26.619 John Compton: Now we can do it next at the next meeting. 1238 01:50:26.980 --> 01:50:27.699 John Compton: or we can 1239 01:50:28.180 --> 01:50:47.380 John Compton: and just have them make their comments. Today we're we're no longer wordsmithing. We've I think there's been an agreement to defer a vote. And we're gonna call this item defer not deferred. But, continued after after these last 2 comments. So, Gretchen, go ahead. 1240 01:50:51.790 --> 01:50:52.870 Gretchen Horlacher: Thank you. 1241 01:50:53.332 --> 01:51:14.519 Gretchen Horlacher: I I wonder about how and where this resolution came up. I know that. Paula has said that it. It seems to be timed around basic. But since it's a an amendment to all committees, I wonder if you could tell me what other committees have had 1242 01:51:14.650 --> 01:51:20.630 Gretchen Horlacher: some issues where this might have come up? Or is it just basic that's being singled out? 1243 01:51:22.060 --> 01:51:25.640 Gretchen Horlacher: Are there other committees that have had issues of 1244 01:51:25.700 --> 01:51:31.740 Gretchen Horlacher: comments or leadership roles or votes taken by nonresident members. 1245 01:51:31.990 --> 01:51:34.780 Gretchen Horlacher: I'd I'd really like to know the motivation. 1246 01:51:35.950 --> 01:51:41.140 Liz Everhart: I don't think there have been other committees with non resident numbers. I I think there have. This came up 1247 01:51:41.620 --> 01:51:46.150 Liz Everhart: from other issues on another committee a few years ago. But 1248 01:51:46.639 --> 01:51:51.729 Liz Everhart: as far as I know, there haven't been very many committees that have non non 1249 01:51:51.750 --> 01:51:54.970 Liz Everhart: town residents participating. But this issue. This 1250 01:51:55.667 --> 01:51:57.550 Liz Everhart: resolution was drafted 1251 01:51:57.560 --> 01:51:59.390 Liz Everhart: a few years ago 1252 01:51:59.746 --> 01:52:08.289 Liz Everhart: in sort of response to how committees are run and and how leadership roles are chosen. But it didn't have anything to do with non resident participation. 1253 01:52:09.040 --> 01:52:15.479 Gretchen Horlacher: So. In fact, it's something that is being raised because there's a discomfort. What's going on in racing. 1254 01:52:16.650 --> 01:52:21.168 John Compton: There's a discomfort going on with non residents playing 1255 01:52:22.570 --> 01:52:23.480 John Compton: Like I mean. 1256 01:52:23.480 --> 01:52:25.030 Gretchen Horlacher: Seems that the only non. 1257 01:52:25.030 --> 01:52:27.129 John Compton: A role in 1258 01:52:27.320 --> 01:52:29.910 John Compton: in a committee. Yes, and. 1259 01:52:29.910 --> 01:52:33.879 Gretchen Horlacher: The only non resident we've had so far is the person on races. 1260 01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:37.820 John Compton: It's an it's it's it's an issue that that it's become 1261 01:52:38.080 --> 01:52:39.500 John Compton: a concern 1262 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:41.050 John Compton: to the Council. 1263 01:52:41.260 --> 01:52:47.409 John Compton: because it's a concern to res to to town residents, I mean, there was a history to this. 1264 01:52:47.440 --> 01:52:48.989 John Compton: This didn't come out of no. 1265 01:52:48.990 --> 01:52:51.420 Gretchen Horlacher: I think it's important to acknowledge that. 1266 01:52:51.940 --> 01:52:52.610 Paula Puglisi: Show you. 1267 01:52:52.610 --> 01:52:55.249 Gretchen Horlacher: In our, in our public forum here. 1268 01:52:55.330 --> 01:52:58.060 Gretchen Horlacher: No, this is something that is involving 1269 01:52:58.150 --> 01:53:04.752 Gretchen Horlacher: a non resident on a committee, and of course that person happens to be both female and black. 1270 01:53:05.110 --> 01:53:05.670 Peter Nagrod: One. 1271 01:53:05.670 --> 01:53:07.370 John Compton: No, and it's absolutely 1272 01:53:07.850 --> 01:53:12.360 John Compton: doing that you are the per only person to even suggest that. 1273 01:53:12.360 --> 01:53:13.210 Liz Everhart: Totally available. 1274 01:53:13.210 --> 01:53:19.029 John Compton: I I actually take offense to even mentioning that fact because it is irrelevant. 1275 01:53:19.470 --> 01:53:19.860 Paula Puglisi: Maybe. 1276 01:53:19.860 --> 01:53:33.149 John Compton: And it's not I. I don't even wanna go there. The idea that you see something discriminatory in this it just I mean, if that's the way you look at these actions. I cannot respond. Tell you the track. 1277 01:53:33.150 --> 01:53:35.569 Gretchen Horlacher: Right, I mean, would you be ready. 1278 01:53:35.570 --> 01:53:36.779 John Compton: Like comment. I think. 1279 01:53:36.780 --> 01:53:54.040 Liz Everhart: If you went to another community and jumped into a committee or tried to be on a Homeowners Association in a where you don't live. Would you feel that you should be expected to be able to to make decisions for that community if you didn't live there? I mean. 1280 01:53:54.040 --> 01:53:57.039 Gretchen Horlacher: I I can't say that I've thought it through that carefully. 1281 01:53:57.040 --> 01:53:57.860 Liz Everhart: Yeah, well, that's. 1282 01:53:57.860 --> 01:54:04.440 Gretchen Horlacher: What I can say is that it never came up until now, and I wanna make sure that we're all clear 1283 01:54:05.040 --> 01:54:10.346 Gretchen Horlacher: of why it came up, and of what the circumstances were, and I don't think. 1284 01:54:10.700 --> 01:54:13.040 Liz Everhart: Non non residents on other committees. 1285 01:54:13.040 --> 01:54:14.790 Gretchen Horlacher: And I wish you wouldn't interrupt me. 1286 01:54:14.790 --> 01:54:15.620 Liz Everhart: I'm sorry, so. 1287 01:54:15.620 --> 01:54:26.940 Barbara: I have a question for you, Gretchen. Are you accusing the Town Council of coming up with this resolution? Simply because there's a black woman on one of our committees. Is that what you're saying? 1288 01:54:27.480 --> 01:54:29.079 Gretchen Horlacher: No, I was asking if. 1289 01:54:29.080 --> 01:54:31.049 Peter Nagrod: If there was, if there was. 1290 01:54:31.050 --> 01:54:42.220 Gretchen Horlacher: Other precedents that cause this, although I will say, in attending a good number of meetings, I have seen this person cut off, and I have seen this person criticize. 1291 01:54:42.220 --> 01:54:43.240 John Compton: And I'm sorry. 1292 01:54:43.240 --> 01:54:48.199 Gretchen Horlacher: I have seen our our own mayor say that she didn't know what she was doing. 1293 01:54:49.630 --> 01:54:53.490 Gretchen Horlacher: and so I simply feel that the record should reflect that. 1294 01:54:58.000 --> 01:54:59.040 John Compton: Thank you. 1295 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:03.390 John Compton: this is a forum. So you've said your piece. 1296 01:55:04.770 --> 01:55:07.350 John Compton: Richard. Which Richard, are we talking about here? 1297 01:55:08.780 --> 01:55:15.179 Richard’s iPad: This is Dick, Kicky. The other thing I'd like to I don't have much to say is going to be quick. 1298 01:55:15.892 --> 01:55:18.299 Richard’s iPad: There was a nonresident 1299 01:55:19.730 --> 01:55:20.390 Richard’s iPad: Welch. 1300 01:55:20.590 --> 01:55:23.634 Richard’s iPad: Preston. Can you turn your volume off 1301 01:55:25.630 --> 01:55:45.709 Richard’s iPad: there? There! There were 2 non residents that started Racic, my daughter, Julia Kavicki and Ceda Strother. They actually started the committee. They were in leadership role. For the 1st year of it. They were given a town award for their leadership role on the committee, and it was not a problem for anybody. 1302 01:55:46.080 --> 01:56:02.589 Richard’s iPad: and they were non residents, both of them. My daughter lives in Brattleboro. This happened during the aftermath of George Floyd, so to say, that we aren't singling somebody out because we don't like what she has to say, and maybe we don't like what she looks like. 1303 01:56:02.790 --> 01:56:03.890 Paula Puglisi: I think that's. 1304 01:56:03.890 --> 01:56:06.689 Richard’s iPad: We should raise here. That's all I have to say. 1305 01:56:06.690 --> 01:56:08.721 Peter Nagrod: Alright! Let's move on. 1306 01:56:11.370 --> 01:56:12.220 John Compton: Alright 1307 01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:18.250 John Compton: any other comments about business? If not, we're going to 1308 01:56:19.090 --> 01:56:27.990 John Compton: publicize that. We're accepting comments on this resolution to be to be revisited at the next council meeting. 1309 01:56:28.580 --> 01:56:29.500 John Compton: It's funny. 1310 01:56:31.455 --> 01:56:32.844 John Compton: All right. 1311 01:56:33.590 --> 01:56:43.029 John Compton: yeah, we come to the. This is old business. Still, this. This is the Dei training proposal 1312 01:56:43.090 --> 01:56:47.946 John Compton: from Rasik. There was some some 1313 01:56:49.129 --> 01:57:01.080 John Compton: questions raised, some suggest. Mostly there were suggestions to the proposal that was in front of the Council I we received a modified proposal from Rasik. 1314 01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:07.850 John Compton: I want to. I wanna I want to say at the outset here I've proposed to the Council 1315 01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:17.629 John Compton: that we consider this additional discussion on the on the Dei education and training proposal. 1316 01:57:18.944 --> 01:57:28.279 John Compton: But that, yeah, there, there seems to have been a good deal of research going on as to what sort of 1317 01:57:28.849 --> 01:57:33.840 John Compton: training and education is available or could be 1318 01:57:33.940 --> 01:57:37.780 John Compton: could be applied, and that we may need additional time. 1319 01:57:37.950 --> 01:57:43.430 John Compton: Well, actually not. May we almost certainly need additional time to further explore that. 1320 01:57:43.540 --> 01:57:44.255 John Compton: So 1321 01:57:45.110 --> 01:57:57.489 John Compton: I only say that by way of explanation, that I hope that the the Council will agree to kind of a time limit for this discussion. With, and then to continue it 1322 01:57:58.012 --> 01:58:03.197 John Compton: at a subsequent meeting which will allow, you know. I think. 1323 01:58:03.830 --> 01:58:11.039 John Compton: you know, for the further research and and additional consideration of racics proposal. 1324 01:58:12.580 --> 01:58:16.190 John Compton: Alright with that pretty ample. I'm gonna let Paul, who's here. 1325 01:58:16.230 --> 01:58:17.880 John Compton: Sorry, Barbara. 1326 01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:46.352 Barbara: Yeah, this is where I I just would like to just flesh out a little bit that we have been looking at other options leadership. Montgomery. There's a Dei specialist in the area who I've been in contact with to get recommendations for consultants. I know, John, you've been following up with somebody. So I think I'm happy to hear anything that that Paula has to say about this, you know, whatever she changed to her her proposal. 1327 01:58:46.700 --> 01:59:01.180 Barbara: But I think that we should not act on anything tonight because we are gonna have more information coming in. So I just wanna make sure that we, you know, hold the door open to make sure that when we do make a decision it's 1 that has considered the various options. 1328 01:59:01.460 --> 01:59:02.050 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 1329 01:59:04.270 --> 01:59:05.020 Peter Nagrod: With that. 1330 01:59:06.900 --> 01:59:10.809 John Compton: Okay, are we ready? Paula, do you wanna just review the 1331 01:59:11.110 --> 01:59:14.260 John Compton: they just scored up with the new, the, the 1332 01:59:15.321 --> 01:59:17.628 John Compton: updated, the recommendation. If you. 1333 01:59:18.740 --> 01:59:20.748 Paula Puglisi: Well, yeah, I can. 1334 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:25.189 Paula Puglisi: alright, I guess the the main thing is. 1335 01:59:25.260 --> 01:59:31.729 Paula Puglisi: we have done our due diligence in terms of following up on additional consultants 1336 01:59:31.980 --> 01:59:39.739 Paula Puglisi: and in, and everything is in the updated report and the results of that. 1337 01:59:40.595 --> 01:59:46.649 Paula Puglisi: You know initially. The people who started this research. 1338 01:59:47.352 --> 01:59:57.960 Paula Puglisi: Took a look at 4 consultants and summaries about why they weren't chosen is on the last page of the Updated recommendation. 1339 01:59:58.510 --> 02:00:20.770 Paula Puglisi: We followed up on the Mml. Suggestion. The the consultants they referred us to it was obviously not at all appropriate. They they do an 8 week program, that is, let's see how much was it that per person was $2,500, and they do it mostly for agencies. 1340 02:00:21.625 --> 02:00:23.800 Paula Puglisi: We looked at 1341 02:00:23.830 --> 02:00:28.899 Paula Puglisi: the University of Maryland office and diversity of inclusion. 1342 02:00:28.930 --> 02:00:36.549 Paula Puglisi: and although they occasionally also offer webinars to the public, they are not offering them at this time. 1343 02:00:37.161 --> 02:00:41.879 Paula Puglisi: We looked at the heart Work collective, which Eva suggested. 1344 02:00:42.230 --> 02:00:47.430 Paula Puglisi: And there were some positive things about them. 1345 02:00:47.971 --> 02:01:02.120 Paula Puglisi: But they seem to be pretty only foundational. They started out working with students, and they work with students a lot. Still. So they they provide foundational concepts. 1346 02:01:02.160 --> 02:01:11.869 Paula Puglisi: But it it seemed like they were less able to customize and go beyond that, whereas the 2 that have been chosen 1347 02:01:11.990 --> 02:01:21.149 Paula Puglisi: seem more able to start out foundationally, customize, and then go beyond, according to wherever the conversations take us. 1348 02:01:22.117 --> 02:01:25.190 Paula Puglisi: we did see that heart works, though 1349 02:01:25.558 --> 02:01:36.059 Paula Puglisi: Had another skill which is facilitating mediated conversations, and we are considering using them in the future for that. So I mean, there were. There were some positive things about that. 1350 02:01:36.380 --> 02:01:38.799 Paula Puglisi: so I guess my 1351 02:01:38.930 --> 02:01:41.100 Paula Puglisi: my question is. 1352 02:01:42.446 --> 02:01:43.940 Paula Puglisi: you know 1353 02:01:44.490 --> 02:01:45.940 Paula Puglisi: altogether. 1354 02:01:46.860 --> 02:01:50.700 Paula Puglisi: There was research on 8 consultants. 1355 02:01:50.970 --> 02:01:52.420 Paula Puglisi: which is 1356 02:01:54.020 --> 02:01:59.049 Paula Puglisi: which is one more than the the roadwork. Rfps 1357 02:01:59.080 --> 02:02:17.150 Paula Puglisi: and and we don't even require an Rfp, so I'm just a little confused about why, there is no faith in the research that we've done in the Council. I mean, you talk about energy that's expended. The Council 1358 02:02:17.150 --> 02:02:33.120 Paula Puglisi: is now doing their own research about this and I feel that we're perfectly qualified to look for consultants, and we provided information, and why we think those 2 are the best. So I don't. I. I've never seen 1359 02:02:33.210 --> 02:02:35.240 Paula Puglisi: somewhat submit 1360 02:02:35.760 --> 02:02:41.710 Paula Puglisi: information about 8 consultants, and then have the council say that they want to look at more. 1361 02:02:42.010 --> 02:02:44.879 Paula Puglisi: So I'm a bit confused about that. 1362 02:02:45.480 --> 02:02:56.829 Paula Puglisi: Otherwise. Everything is in the updated proposal, and you know I can answer any questions that you have. I know I appreciate it. Chris. 1363 02:02:57.680 --> 02:02:59.930 Paula Puglisi: Looked very carefully 1364 02:03:00.020 --> 02:03:07.480 Paula Puglisi: at the update, and he had some questions, so I don't know if you want to entertain those. 1365 02:03:13.230 --> 02:03:17.650 John Compton: Well, I I just really wanted you to review what 1366 02:03:17.680 --> 02:03:18.790 John Compton: was 1367 02:03:19.550 --> 02:03:23.169 John Compton: how you had altered your proposal. I know. 1368 02:03:23.170 --> 02:03:23.870 Paula Puglisi: Well. 1369 02:03:24.415 --> 02:03:24.960 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1370 02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:27.760 Paula Puglisi: One. Okay. Well, 1 1 thing that happened. 1371 02:03:27.970 --> 02:03:28.900 Paula Puglisi: What 1372 02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:31.260 Paula Puglisi: did somebody else say? Something? 1373 02:03:32.010 --> 02:03:34.980 Paula Puglisi: Oh, okay. So 1374 02:03:36.110 --> 02:03:43.430 Paula Puglisi: one alteration is that there would be before the 1375 02:03:45.230 --> 02:03:57.640 Paula Puglisi: The individual assessments were done, there would be a development of metrics and qualitate, qualitative and quantitative to measure the success of the program. So that was one thing that was added. 1376 02:03:57.760 --> 02:04:15.150 Paula Puglisi: And even though that's being talked about as a pilot, we still would like the people who do that to serve as models, and Mary made a very good suggestion the last time about trying to use people who take those individual 1377 02:04:15.220 --> 02:04:16.680 Paula Puglisi: assessments. 1378 02:04:17.153 --> 02:04:32.040 Paula Puglisi: To think about how they could be used with the community work. And so that's added under pilot program, set up a pilot program with a limited number of community members to take an individual assessment 1379 02:04:32.040 --> 02:04:48.209 Paula Puglisi: and engage in conversations about their results and strategies for using what they've learned to positively impact the community for the collective work. And so that was added to make sure that we include them for the larger community work. 1380 02:04:50.360 --> 02:05:04.749 Paula Puglisi: let's see. Oh, the other thing that was added. And this was after the conversation with the the Council. The last time was to explore charging a small percentage of the cost for the individual assessments. 1381 02:05:06.117 --> 02:05:07.989 Paula Puglisi: Taking the assessment 1382 02:05:08.040 --> 02:05:16.110 Paula Puglisi: which follows a model of the summer camp program that's heavily subsidized by Washington Grove to decrease the financial impact. 1383 02:05:16.350 --> 02:05:18.950 Paula Puglisi: So that was something that was added 1384 02:05:19.381 --> 02:05:25.639 Paula Puglisi: because that because people talked about how expensive the individual assessment was for a few people. 1385 02:05:26.445 --> 02:05:28.140 Paula Puglisi: The other thing. 1386 02:05:29.780 --> 02:05:44.810 Paula Puglisi: We were asked to provide information about Nywar and there was in more information about him. That's that doesn't affect the whole plan. But you asked for that. And so that was provided. 1387 02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:55.350 Paula Puglisi: so we have tried to take the suggestions and use them for the 2 that we still feel offer the best 1388 02:05:56.810 --> 02:06:04.670 Paula Puglisi: proposition for the resolutions, individual work 1389 02:06:04.700 --> 02:06:07.079 Paula Puglisi: and collective work. 1390 02:06:08.465 --> 02:06:09.310 Paula Puglisi: So 1391 02:06:09.830 --> 02:06:12.560 Paula Puglisi: those were the additions. Those were the changes. 1392 02:06:22.210 --> 02:06:23.240 John Compton: All right. 1393 02:06:24.700 --> 02:06:25.495 John Compton: so 1394 02:06:26.838 --> 02:06:29.110 John Compton: we. I don't want to put 1395 02:06:30.350 --> 02:06:33.130 John Compton: Chris necessarily on the spot, but he did a more. 1396 02:06:37.810 --> 02:06:42.030 Paula Puglisi: Well, I can answer a couple of things that I saw that, he wrote. If you want. 1397 02:06:42.030 --> 02:06:44.380 John Compton: Why don't we let him 1398 02:06:46.430 --> 02:06:48.540 John Compton: his his 1399 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:51.340 John Compton: commentary on the proposal 1400 02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:54.909 John Compton: into into a verbal 1401 02:06:55.320 --> 02:06:56.520 John Compton: questions, and. 1402 02:06:56.520 --> 02:06:57.150 Paula Puglisi: We need. 1403 02:06:57.150 --> 02:06:59.759 John Compton: Which you may may want, may want to address 1404 02:07:00.600 --> 02:07:01.095 John Compton: Chris. 1405 02:07:01.590 --> 02:07:02.450 Paula Puglisi: Yeah, but. 1406 02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:04.231 Kriss Grisham: Yeah, thank you. So 1407 02:07:05.230 --> 02:07:06.340 Kriss Grisham: you know I didn't. 1408 02:07:06.950 --> 02:07:12.390 Kriss Grisham: I wouldn't have sent this out if we weren't planning on really discussing this and and 1409 02:07:12.650 --> 02:07:20.459 Kriss Grisham: eventually voting on this, I guess, and because, you know and I didn't realize that we were. You know, there are other other 1410 02:07:20.540 --> 02:07:28.919 Kriss Grisham: council members that we're looking into, and even the mayor, looking into other facets of potential training opportunities. So you know, I'm 1411 02:07:28.930 --> 02:07:31.379 Kriss Grisham: willing to wait. I mean you. You have 1412 02:07:31.890 --> 02:07:38.400 Kriss Grisham: my, my comments and questions. If you'd like, I mean, we could even do it offline instead of trying to. 1413 02:07:38.847 --> 02:07:43.160 Kriss Grisham: you know. Extend the length of this meeting. You know I'm fine with that. 1414 02:07:45.820 --> 02:07:46.830 Paula Puglisi: Lot of people. 1415 02:07:47.620 --> 02:07:48.300 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1416 02:07:50.013 --> 02:07:53.566 John Compton: I I just wanna make a maybe a a higher level. 1417 02:07:56.190 --> 02:08:05.629 John Compton: comment level of the proposal. So I I think the proposal has 1418 02:08:06.290 --> 02:08:08.070 John Compton: is is split. 1419 02:08:08.440 --> 02:08:11.707 John Compton: If you look at it and parse it into 1420 02:08:12.300 --> 02:08:15.130 John Compton: into individual 1421 02:08:17.280 --> 02:08:19.070 John Compton: Dei training 1422 02:08:19.780 --> 02:08:21.000 John Compton: community 1423 02:08:22.900 --> 02:08:25.999 John Compton: issues in Dei education. 1424 02:08:26.440 --> 02:08:32.260 John Compton: And I'm I'm just going to throw out my, my, my point of view. 1425 02:08:33.445 --> 02:08:34.459 John Compton: The 1426 02:08:34.530 --> 02:08:39.659 John Compton: the pro, the the proposals to engage in in individual 1427 02:08:42.070 --> 02:09:09.882 John Compton: training exercise. And then, mind you, this all, every a. When I say that it's it's anyone, it it's those who are interested in it. Nobody's going to be. So far, we're not talking about requiring anybody to undergo some sort of training thing which, by the way, does happen in in companies and other organizations. They have required exposure to 1428 02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:13.400 John Compton: di issues and training. 1429 02:09:13.830 --> 02:09:18.310 John Compton: So the the I I 1430 02:09:18.770 --> 02:09:19.810 John Compton: I 1431 02:09:21.000 --> 02:09:26.640 John Compton: I believe that th the discussion would best proceed 1432 02:09:26.830 --> 02:09:33.290 John Compton: not not to to break down the what we, what we've gotten from basic 1433 02:09:33.380 --> 02:09:38.430 John Compton: into the that aimed at individual 1434 02:09:39.222 --> 02:09:41.088 John Compton: awareness and individual 1435 02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:44.869 John Compton: biases and and just understanding 1436 02:09:47.740 --> 02:09:53.139 John Compton: one one's own situation, and maybe a better understanding that of others. 1437 02:09:53.160 --> 02:09:54.080 John Compton: And 1438 02:09:55.140 --> 02:09:58.239 John Compton: the community type education 1439 02:09:58.540 --> 02:10:00.160 John Compton: where? 1440 02:10:00.460 --> 02:10:01.173 John Compton: Where? 1441 02:10:03.180 --> 02:10:05.459 John Compton: where I think the 1442 02:10:06.050 --> 02:10:08.204 John Compton: the the Limited 1443 02:10:10.240 --> 02:10:14.097 John Compton: Well, I think that one of the main things we took from 1444 02:10:15.050 --> 02:10:23.248 John Compton: the survey. Nobody agree. Everybody mostly agrees it was. It's not a statistical 1445 02:10:24.480 --> 02:10:42.149 John Compton: has been. It's not a statistical representation of all of Washington grow. But it suggested that there was a significant at least in the responders, a significant appearance of of discrimination in town. And 1446 02:10:42.340 --> 02:10:46.250 John Compton: if if one doesn't quibble with that 1447 02:10:47.663 --> 02:10:49.210 John Compton: terribly much. 1448 02:10:49.310 --> 02:10:50.320 John Compton: Then? 1449 02:10:51.450 --> 02:10:58.430 John Compton: then it's clear that as a whole, the community and those interested in following up on this 1450 02:10:58.690 --> 02:11:08.850 John Compton: this id, this situation would benefit from some sort of community level opportunity. 1451 02:11:09.643 --> 02:11:16.280 John Compton: For for to improve awareness as as individuals in the community 1452 02:11:16.761 --> 02:11:20.679 John Compton: relating to the community what sort of bias there is 1453 02:11:20.850 --> 02:11:21.800 John Compton: of 1454 02:11:22.000 --> 02:11:23.690 John Compton: and 1455 02:11:25.541 --> 02:11:32.420 John Compton: so th there's those 2 aspects and the one they have different financial 1456 02:11:33.240 --> 02:11:45.537 John Compton: underpinnings. And obviously they have 1. One would be an offering that is broadly offered, and the other because of the 1457 02:11:47.030 --> 02:11:59.190 John Compton: Maybe the the interest in assessing the an initial effort at at doing a small group. Individual 1458 02:12:01.100 --> 02:12:02.250 John Compton: sessions 1459 02:12:02.654 --> 02:12:09.769 John Compton: would would only be corrected at a at a test group, or at least a smaller group 1460 02:12:10.190 --> 02:12:17.499 John Compton: does that, may I? I'm just saying that because it's it's hard to discuss this. If we don't clearly distinguish 1461 02:12:17.790 --> 02:12:23.910 John Compton: what sort of education and training, what what the goal of the training is 1462 02:12:24.927 --> 02:12:26.209 John Compton: and if we. 1463 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:33.939 John Compton: Agree on which one we're talking about. Maybe there's another one, or I didn't state it quite well, but somebody else can state it better. 1464 02:12:34.140 --> 02:12:43.090 John Compton: Then I think we can arrive at a better, at a better understanding as to whether and how to go forward. 1465 02:12:47.560 --> 02:12:51.320 Peter Nagrod: I think this thing has become very confusing as to what we're doing right now. 1466 02:12:52.970 --> 02:12:54.030 John Compton: Right now, where? 1467 02:12:54.030 --> 02:12:54.600 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1468 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:59.140 John Compton: We've agreed to discuss what was in front of us. We've agreed to not 1469 02:12:59.270 --> 02:13:05.110 John Compton: take any action and expect to. 1470 02:13:05.650 --> 02:13:08.810 John Compton: I think, expect to get 1471 02:13:09.260 --> 02:13:13.960 John Compton: find out whether what sort of additional 1472 02:13:16.200 --> 02:13:22.470 John Compton: availability there is for the kind of training the 2 sorts that I tried to distinguish. 1473 02:13:23.880 --> 02:13:24.290 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 1474 02:13:24.290 --> 02:13:26.510 John Compton: Basic explored 1475 02:13:27.030 --> 02:13:28.590 John Compton: are is available. 1476 02:13:28.840 --> 02:13:32.007 John Compton: So I don't. Wanna you know, this is all, 1477 02:13:33.289 --> 02:13:43.409 John Compton: any, any, any focus that we get is based on their efforts. So no one is. Yeah, I I'm certainly not criticizing their efforts whatsoever. 1478 02:13:44.025 --> 02:13:44.639 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1479 02:13:45.900 --> 02:13:46.560 Peter Nagrod: Earth. 1480 02:13:46.980 --> 02:13:56.729 Eva: Yeah, I guess I don't know. Would it be helpful to put up the proposal? I guess I'm kind of with Peter of like, what are we? What are we talking about right now? What's what's the goal of this 1481 02:13:56.930 --> 02:14:02.259 Eva: discussion? I mean, we we talked about this proposal last time, and we told Rasik to come back 1482 02:14:02.320 --> 02:14:04.949 Eva: to us with more research. And they have. 1483 02:14:05.080 --> 02:14:06.320 Eva: So. 1484 02:14:06.540 --> 02:14:19.458 Eva: But we've already decided we're not gonna vote on it. And I mean, I think they they do have. They do have reasoning, and I I that's why. Well, and I guess I can pull it up myself. But maybe we should look at it together. 1485 02:14:20.490 --> 02:14:28.486 Eva: but I I mean, I I hear what Paul is saying like, they've they've done a lot of research. This is their area expertise. 1486 02:14:29.500 --> 02:14:33.389 Eva: I I guess I'm not clear like, what what more are we? 1487 02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:46.729 Eva: What more are we doing here? Like I I don't. I mean we that's fine. We can wait to vote on it. But what are what are we hoping to gain in the meantime? And I I heard that Barbara said, we're still, maybe waiting to hear back about some other. 1488 02:14:46.730 --> 02:14:50.459 Barbara: Yeah. So the the people who we've reached out to are more local. 1489 02:14:50.730 --> 02:15:01.149 Barbara: So you know, people who might be a little more familiar with the area, people who are not, who who live in the area, who don't have to travel to get here, you know, from across the country. 1490 02:15:01.550 --> 02:15:02.030 Eva: Okay, so. 1491 02:15:02.030 --> 02:15:06.300 Barbara: People who are recommended by people who have used them in this area. That's that's what. 1492 02:15:06.300 --> 02:15:14.500 Eva: So I guess it sounds like we're we're waiting to to get some more information here back from some other options. So I guess I'm wondering. So what are we 1493 02:15:14.680 --> 02:15:29.660 Eva: discussing now? Should we just wait and see what more information we get? And I mean, I'll I'll say that it seems like racic has done a lot of research. I I like the addition of 1494 02:15:29.720 --> 02:15:43.140 Eva: the individual assessments potentially being more like a you know, individual pay a little bit, and it's subsized by the town. I think that could maybe alleviate some people's concern about that. 1495 02:15:43.438 --> 02:15:52.379 Eva: So yeah, I guess I just feel like, okay, well, I I'm not really sure what what we have to discuss here. Maybe we need to just wait until we get the rest of the information. 1496 02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:54.790 Peter Nagrod: Unless there. 1497 02:15:54.790 --> 02:15:56.510 Eva: I don't know. Am I wrong with. 1498 02:15:56.510 --> 02:15:56.930 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1499 02:15:56.930 --> 02:15:59.230 Eva: Something else to discuss, you know. 1500 02:15:59.230 --> 02:16:02.829 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that's that's what I agree. That's what I'm hearing. Eva is exactly that. 1501 02:16:04.020 --> 02:16:21.569 marywarfield: But in in terms of the individual training, though I I think, and, Paul, you can correct me if I'm wrong, that the reason racic has has focused on that is because of the initial resolution which specifically said individual and community. Because, I mean, I I have some concerns in terms of. 1502 02:16:21.570 --> 02:16:34.230 marywarfield: you know, the individual training, but I I think that the reason that that was included is is in the spirit of what the initial resolution was. So when we're considering both of them, I think that's that's why that was. 1503 02:16:34.230 --> 02:16:36.319 Paula Puglisi: Thank you. Yeah. Bye, bye. 1504 02:16:36.320 --> 02:16:37.779 Eva: Yeah, that makes sense to me, too. 1505 02:16:38.139 --> 02:16:40.612 Eva: I know it's in the spirit of the resolution. Yeah. 1506 02:16:40.860 --> 02:16:45.010 Peter Nagrod: I think Paula mentioned this last time. I have 50 years 1507 02:16:45.450 --> 02:16:58.530 Peter Nagrod: of of being in the training industry with with some of the top companies in the world, including American management. And, as Paula said, training is not a good word to describe this. 1508 02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:02.420 Peter Nagrod: and that's, I think that's a key thing is mindset. 1509 02:17:03.230 --> 02:17:12.189 Peter Nagrod: But there, there's a there's a this is very complicated, very complicated program to make it successful. It is gonna be very expensive. 1510 02:17:12.559 --> 02:17:26.460 Peter Nagrod: And we have to really think that through as far as what kind of commitment the town's gonna make, or if individuals feel that personal commitment that they're willing to pay that price themselves. So I mean, there's things that we really have to think through before we just jump into this. 1511 02:17:26.650 --> 02:17:38.929 marywarfield: Can can I ask, Paula, how are you gonna arrive at the metrics cause? I would think that would be a kind of a key part of this is if we're going into a pilot, that to have what what the goals are, and how are you gonna do that. 1512 02:17:39.248 --> 02:17:52.299 Paula Puglisi: Work with the consultants to work together with the consultants to, and statisticians, and whoever else wants to take a look Council members can, and we will arrive at that, and we have to talk to the consultants about that, too. 1513 02:17:52.309 --> 02:17:57.539 marywarfield: So that that's part of why you're having the consultants is to is to set up those goals and. 1514 02:17:57.850 --> 02:17:58.290 Paula Puglisi: There is a. 1515 02:17:58.290 --> 02:18:01.090 marywarfield: And how and how you're gonna made measure. 1516 02:18:02.020 --> 02:18:25.829 Paula Puglisi: Thanks. And and, Peter, I think that's right about the training part, because that is a bad word, because that it that could imply to people, and I think it was. That was another problem with with our messaging as it has been all along we need I. I've been joking that we need a Pr firm. But but yeah, the thing is is that 1517 02:18:25.840 --> 02:18:51.169 Paula Puglisi: that could imply to some people that there is that we are pointing fingers, and that we're saying that that you really need this. But what if I just wish people could understand the baseline is that we all need it, because this is where this we've all been inundated with this. And that's 1 of the reasons that racist leadership wants to participate in it. 1518 02:18:51.170 --> 02:18:55.879 Peter Nagrod: Right? It's it's educate. That's right. You train dogs. Right? You educate people. Okay. 1519 02:18:55.889 --> 02:18:59.498 Paula Puglisi: Yeah, yeah. And we all could use it. 1520 02:19:04.180 --> 02:19:15.929 Kriss Grisham: So. So, yeah, this is, this is Chris and I. And and I did have a lot of comments on the the proposal. And I guess you know the the question I have. And for everybody here and the other town councillors, right is 1521 02:19:16.633 --> 02:19:44.079 Kriss Grisham: you know, Peter, you said that it's gonna be pretty expensive. So are we saying that Washington Grove is is off the scale terrible, or you know, in other words, you know, when you take a look at the others, and that's what we're trying to find, I think, is looking at the surrounding communities. You know Rockville, Gaithersburg, wherever and other entities within Maryland, for example, and and and try to get a handle on what it is that they're doing. 1522 02:19:44.240 --> 02:19:45.659 Kriss Grisham: I you know. 1523 02:19:45.959 --> 02:19:48.170 Kriss Grisham: And and and instead of. 1524 02:19:49.180 --> 02:19:54.600 Kriss Grisham: I guess the the the problem I have is if we're building this entire 1525 02:19:57.390 --> 02:20:01.100 Kriss Grisham: assessment, education training, whatever you want to call it. 1526 02:20:01.290 --> 02:20:04.150 Kriss Grisham: If we're building all of that on on. 1527 02:20:04.420 --> 02:20:09.280 Kriss Grisham: and that's what I was trying to get at, you know, during the last town Council meeting, my 1st one. 1528 02:20:10.400 --> 02:20:16.630 Kriss Grisham: you know, if we're if we're building all of this based on the data that we got out of that survey right? 1529 02:20:19.080 --> 02:20:28.640 Kriss Grisham: at, you know. At best, you're looking at like a 70% confidence level in that survey. Okay? So you know, we're, I think that if you take 1530 02:20:29.090 --> 02:20:32.219 Kriss Grisham: but what it's worth, there's an indicator there. Sure. 1531 02:20:32.420 --> 02:20:34.490 Kriss Grisham: there's you know, that there is an issue. 1532 02:20:34.670 --> 02:20:36.889 Kriss Grisham: But how big is that issue? 1533 02:20:36.910 --> 02:20:40.040 Kriss Grisham: You know how many people are actually involved? 1534 02:20:40.270 --> 02:20:44.639 Kriss Grisham: We don't know. Or maybe you do. I don't know by looking at that survey data. 1535 02:20:44.780 --> 02:20:52.029 Kriss Grisham: So you know, at this point, when you say it's going to be expensive, what do you base that on, I guess I 1536 02:20:52.570 --> 02:20:53.270 Kriss Grisham: but 1537 02:20:53.410 --> 02:20:58.140 Kriss Grisham: I'm at a loss. And that's I think that's where we're trying to gather more data 1538 02:20:58.580 --> 02:21:04.560 Kriss Grisham: to to see what the surrounding communities are doing, and and then to see what is out there and available right. 1539 02:21:05.460 --> 02:21:08.220 Paula Puglisi: First.st Oh, I'm sorry I thought you. I'm sorry. 1540 02:21:08.220 --> 02:21:09.900 Kriss Grisham: No no go ahead! Go ahead! 1541 02:21:11.350 --> 02:21:16.390 Paula Puglisi: 1st of all, you know, if we talk about other governments, they have whole 1542 02:21:16.580 --> 02:21:27.550 Paula Puglisi: offices of diversity, inclusion, equity. They have complete offices where they have staff, who do this all the time. They pay staff to do this on a regular basis. 1543 02:21:27.690 --> 02:21:43.209 Paula Puglisi: So we are a small municipality. We can't have an office of diversity, equity, and inclusion. So the best we can offer is this, and let's take a look at our whole budget. I mean, is this really a lot when we look at our whole budget. 1544 02:21:43.410 --> 02:21:44.990 Paula Puglisi: I mean, come on. 1545 02:21:45.030 --> 02:21:46.290 Paula Puglisi: folks also. 1546 02:21:47.190 --> 02:22:01.070 Kriss Grisham: I? I'm sorry, Paula, but that that was one of my questions. If you take a look at the you know the the questions that, I submitted. You know, if we wanna go to your proposal, you know what is your intended, you know, overall a expected budget, you know. I 1547 02:22:01.140 --> 02:22:08.570 Kriss Grisham: well expectations towards the ultimate proposed budget for this project. I mean, what is it that you're looking at? What do you think. 1548 02:22:08.720 --> 02:22:12.260 Paula Puglisi: I don't, you know, like I've said before. 1549 02:22:12.780 --> 02:22:15.159 Paula Puglisi: we're talking about people 1550 02:22:15.170 --> 02:22:30.010 Paula Puglisi: we're talking about evolving conversations. We're not talking about, knowing that we need a set number of trees, and they will cost this much. The budget can be developed. We're asking for this initial amount. 1551 02:22:30.370 --> 02:22:39.450 Paula Puglisi: It can be continued to be developed after the assessment and after the group education. And then we'll have a better idea of what's needed and wanted. 1552 02:22:40.011 --> 02:23:08.469 Paula Puglisi: It doesn't have to come from this year's budget. This will be an evolution to find out what's needed and wanted. We can't just say here's an endpoint because we want 20 trees right now, and 15 over here, and or predict how many trees are dying to replace them. I mean, we're talking about people we're talking about ideas. We have to. We have to see where it goes, you know. So it really it. It's squishier. I get that. 1553 02:23:08.580 --> 02:23:10.080 Paula Puglisi: But we you know 1554 02:23:10.390 --> 02:23:13.180 Paula Puglisi: you cannot really do that. 1555 02:23:13.180 --> 02:23:15.169 Kriss Grisham: You know, I guess. 1556 02:23:16.110 --> 02:23:23.569 Kriss Grisham: Yeah, I I hear where you're coming from, and and it all depends. Some people, you know, some people could be, you know, lifelong, you know. 1557 02:23:23.690 --> 02:23:38.650 Kriss Grisham: you know, hardheads, I guess you know, and and and then difficult to try to work with, to try to educate. If that's the word that we're using now. But I I you know we still. So that's the other thing is, you know, we talked about this the other day. 1558 02:23:38.650 --> 02:23:39.050 Paula Puglisi: No. 1559 02:23:39.050 --> 02:23:47.890 Kriss Grisham: Are you bounding this to? We're trying to be inclusive. Are we going to include all the other neighbors? And then I heard, no, we're not well, you know. 1560 02:23:47.900 --> 02:23:48.585 Kriss Grisham: then. 1561 02:23:49.640 --> 02:23:52.379 Kriss Grisham: So if that's the case, and then we say there's 1562 02:23:52.400 --> 02:24:01.889 Kriss Grisham: 500 people in town, you know. You could bound that to say, a lot of them are going to be kids, and you could. You could whittle that down to say 300 right? 1563 02:24:01.960 --> 02:24:08.350 Kriss Grisham: And and then, if you're if you're looking at trying to educate 300 people, then you get a ballpark estimate. 1564 02:24:08.400 --> 02:24:11.899 Kriss Grisham: you know, if we're not going to go outside the town right? 1565 02:24:12.302 --> 02:24:15.380 Kriss Grisham: And that's what I'm getting at is, you know. 1566 02:24:16.320 --> 02:24:30.959 Kriss Grisham: we really what you're proposing is like, limitless. And that's that's my concern. What is the ultimate proposed budget for this project. Where are you going to say? Enough's enough, and we're going to stop, and we're good to go. 1567 02:24:30.960 --> 02:24:31.380 Paula Puglisi: Okay. 1568 02:24:31.380 --> 02:24:37.860 Kriss Grisham: Your metrics come into play, and you need to understand. We need to understand. I think I need to understand 1569 02:24:38.050 --> 02:24:46.600 Kriss Grisham: where you're coming from and in how you're developing the processes and and thoughts, I guess, and and and from point A to point B. 1570 02:24:46.820 --> 02:24:47.520 Paula Puglisi: Okay. 1571 02:24:47.520 --> 02:24:48.860 Kriss Grisham: That's what I'm trying to get. 1572 02:24:49.050 --> 02:24:51.946 Paula Puglisi: Okay. Alright. Okay. 1st of all. 1573 02:24:52.360 --> 02:24:55.301 John Compton: Oh, wait! Wait a second. 1574 02:24:55.890 --> 02:24:56.560 Paula Puglisi: What? 1575 02:24:56.960 --> 02:24:59.979 John Compton: You're not going to answer that tonight because I. 1576 02:24:59.980 --> 02:25:00.455 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. 1577 02:25:00.930 --> 02:25:02.559 John Compton: Time on this matter. 1578 02:25:02.560 --> 02:25:03.250 Paula Puglisi: Okay. 1579 02:25:03.250 --> 02:25:08.760 John Compton: Already agreed to resume in july 8, th with whatever new information. 1580 02:25:09.080 --> 02:25:09.580 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1581 02:25:09.580 --> 02:25:10.030 John Compton: Ever 1582 02:25:10.920 --> 02:25:11.860 John Compton: ever. 1583 02:25:12.870 --> 02:25:19.040 John Compton: I would suggest that a very cogent list of questions 1584 02:25:19.290 --> 02:25:21.829 John Compton: that are concerns of the Council 1585 02:25:22.610 --> 02:25:24.390 John Compton: be assembled. 1586 02:25:24.530 --> 02:25:26.090 John Compton: Chris has just 1587 02:25:26.830 --> 02:25:29.269 John Compton: clearly stated at least one of. 1588 02:25:29.665 --> 02:25:30.060 Paula Puglisi: Is. 1589 02:25:30.060 --> 02:25:37.920 John Compton: And that is you know. What is the oh, what what is the financial commitment 1590 02:25:38.440 --> 02:25:43.359 John Compton: to? To for for the process. 1591 02:25:43.600 --> 02:25:47.320 John Compton: but the the education process for individuals. 1592 02:25:47.950 --> 02:25:56.089 John Compton: And that doesn't mean the town's going to fund it. It just means we recognize what the sequence of commitment will. 1593 02:25:56.090 --> 02:25:56.850 Paula Puglisi: Room, be. 1594 02:25:57.190 --> 02:26:00.450 John Compton: The current commitment is limited because of the limit of times. 1595 02:26:00.600 --> 02:26:09.759 John Compton: but the ultimate commitment or not commitment, but the ultimate extension has consequences. So what are the financial consequences? 1596 02:26:10.570 --> 02:26:24.520 John Compton: Can we? That's 1. The other is, I'm sure the Council wants. Would. Would. It would be very helpful to have a very cogent explanation of the of the outcome 1597 02:26:26.310 --> 02:26:29.229 John Compton: of the training. What is the outcome? 1598 02:26:29.410 --> 02:26:38.310 John Compton: Maybe that outcome is all individual, I mean, whatever it is it needs it should be clearly enunciated. I think it would be very helpful if it's enunciated 1599 02:26:38.370 --> 02:26:53.000 John Compton: so that we can stop asking that question and start considering you know what? What? Exact you know. Can can we go ahead? And, you know, authorize engagement of a consultant to to pursue it 1600 02:26:53.040 --> 02:27:05.459 John Compton: same with the community education. This is not a commentary on the individual you suggested. It's just a commentary on, you know, the the expectations for the education 1601 02:27:07.130 --> 02:27:10.920 John Compton: that's proposed, and maybe it's in there, Paula and I excuse me. 1602 02:27:10.920 --> 02:27:12.190 Paula Puglisi: Yeah, I haven't. 1603 02:27:12.190 --> 02:27:15.570 John Compton: Grasp it. But I think the questions are continually 1604 02:27:16.345 --> 02:27:20.070 John Compton: coming back to, you know these few basic. 1605 02:27:20.220 --> 02:27:24.539 John Compton: you know. questions. If if we can 1606 02:27:25.570 --> 02:27:28.179 John Compton: agree on the answer to that. 1607 02:27:28.410 --> 02:27:29.270 Paula Puglisi: Aha. 1608 02:27:30.090 --> 02:27:31.290 Paula Puglisi: yeah. And. 1609 02:27:31.290 --> 02:27:38.350 John Compton: To discuss if we would. Shortcut. You know some of the what appears to be an amorphous discussion. 1610 02:27:39.001 --> 02:27:50.730 John Compton: You know somebody can propose an action as well. I propose that we we approve basic hiring XY, and Z. That is a 1611 02:27:51.090 --> 02:27:54.190 John Compton: specific proposal, but nobody's made that yet. 1612 02:27:55.830 --> 02:28:06.600 John Compton: and to the extent to which you're frustrated with the nature of the discussion. You can always propose something like that. If you can get it supported so. 1613 02:28:06.880 --> 02:28:13.450 John Compton: but moving on till next month. We we've all agreed on that. I hopefully. This is clear, the air somewhat. 1614 02:28:13.980 --> 02:28:17.480 Paula Puglisi: May I ask one question, please, before we move on? 1615 02:28:17.860 --> 02:28:22.659 Paula Puglisi: So you're saying that you that the Council will 1616 02:28:22.680 --> 02:28:26.320 Paula Puglisi: send races specific questions? Is that correct? 1617 02:28:27.050 --> 02:28:29.970 John Compton: i i i believe that the 1618 02:28:30.620 --> 02:28:33.570 John Compton: the Council that we should identify 1619 02:28:34.490 --> 02:28:40.419 John Compton: as close to a comprehensive list of kind of questions you've been getting here in the last. 1620 02:28:40.420 --> 02:28:47.509 Paula Puglisi: Okay. And so you will give those to raise. Sec. Like, several weeks before the meeting. 1621 02:28:47.510 --> 02:28:48.959 John Compton: Yeah, of course, otherwise. 1622 02:28:48.960 --> 02:29:00.890 Paula Puglisi: Yeah. And then can I please ask you, then, if you're going to be looking at other consultants, that you all answer those same questions for the consultants that you are going to find. 1623 02:29:00.890 --> 02:29:08.589 John Compton: Very point. This is how you evaluate who is going to provide. 1624 02:29:08.590 --> 02:29:15.330 Paula Puglisi: Okay. So you will provide others and the answers to the questions and give us the questions also. Okay. 1625 02:29:15.620 --> 02:29:16.990 John Compton: Well, yes. 1626 02:29:17.020 --> 02:29:18.079 John Compton: more or less. 1627 02:29:18.910 --> 02:29:19.970 Paula Puglisi: Moreland. 1628 02:29:20.190 --> 02:29:22.080 Paula Puglisi: but she did more and less. 1629 02:29:22.080 --> 02:29:27.502 John Compton: I wish it was that systematic. But maybe we can be that systematic. 1630 02:29:28.550 --> 02:29:30.830 Paula Puglisi: Alright! Well, hmm! 1631 02:29:31.100 --> 02:29:40.809 John Compton: Okay? So with that, we are moving along on the agenda we're on to new business, as I introduce at the beginning, when we approve the agenda. 1632 02:29:41.020 --> 02:29:46.629 John Compton: there was a significant interest in including from council members 1633 02:29:46.930 --> 02:29:51.620 John Compton: to consider amending the town's charter 1634 02:29:51.690 --> 02:29:57.589 John Compton: to allow more flexibility in scheduling our annual election and the town meeting. 1635 02:29:58.451 --> 02:30:16.630 John Compton: So it might not be late in the evening, or it could extend longer without without losing everybody, you know, everybody falling asleep, etc, etc. So this is proposed. There's been a little bit of work to to to create language for that. I can. 1636 02:30:16.630 --> 02:30:16.960 Paula Puglisi: Okay. 1637 02:30:16.960 --> 02:30:22.039 John Compton: You that the process for changing the charter is rather 1638 02:30:22.830 --> 02:30:37.939 John Compton: simpler than the process for a zoning text amendment that we just did for the adu thing you do it by resolution. A resolution is is is proposed that alters the charter. 1639 02:30:37.970 --> 02:30:42.820 John Compton: We then have to do the usual announcements we have to do the usual public. 1640 02:30:42.860 --> 02:30:44.900 John Compton: But no yes. 1641 02:30:45.160 --> 02:30:49.599 John Compton: I'm not sure about the public hearing, but but there's some announcement requirements. 1642 02:30:50.363 --> 02:30:55.076 John Compton: and then and then the matter is 1643 02:30:55.600 --> 02:30:56.220 Paula Puglisi: Hmm. 1644 02:30:56.220 --> 02:30:57.499 John Compton: Outed on 1645 02:30:58.170 --> 02:31:01.030 John Compton: and of course the State has to be informed. Blah blah 1646 02:31:01.586 --> 02:31:11.500 John Compton: so it's not a formal task. But we I think there, there will be a proposal, or there may be a proposal coming up 1647 02:31:11.540 --> 02:31:15.360 John Compton: to make. Add that flexibility to our charter. 1648 02:31:16.316 --> 02:31:25.460 John Compton: I think tonight we don't have such a thing, and there's no point really in discussing it without a a at least a proposal in front of you. 1649 02:31:27.350 --> 02:31:29.879 John Compton: So if we conclude that 1650 02:31:29.890 --> 02:31:42.050 John Compton: that new business which will be kind of mold business and go on to the town Council reports. Which were available to everyone. I've picked out a few things just to note. 1651 02:31:42.500 --> 02:31:44.459 John Compton: There's plenty more in there. There's. 1652 02:31:45.275 --> 02:31:45.800 Peter Nagrod: Yes. 1653 02:31:45.800 --> 02:31:51.809 John Compton: A personal, not not personal, but what I think worth mentioning here in the meeting. 1654 02:31:51.820 --> 02:31:54.442 John Compton: but lots of other information. And 1655 02:31:54.900 --> 02:31:57.769 John Compton: you know, anyone interested should certainly read 1656 02:31:58.000 --> 02:32:01.720 John Compton: reports. If you only read the ones you're interested in. 1657 02:32:02.000 --> 02:32:11.722 John Compton: So with respect to the Rec. Committee, summer in the parks Eva has. I think she's directing it, or Co. Directing it. 1658 02:32:12.470 --> 02:32:13.170 Paula Puglisi: Moderator. 1659 02:32:13.170 --> 02:32:13.650 Eva: Is little 1660 02:32:14.980 --> 02:32:16.190 Eva: moderators. The current. 1661 02:32:16.190 --> 02:32:21.849 John Compton: Moderator whatever. And with with those efforts they've have 25 riches. 1662 02:32:22.830 --> 02:32:23.459 John Compton: Close the pro. 1663 02:32:23.460 --> 02:32:24.090 Paula Puglisi: Remember. 1664 02:32:24.370 --> 02:32:25.190 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1665 02:32:25.360 --> 02:32:27.969 John Compton: Plenty for the program 1666 02:32:28.484 --> 02:32:35.149 John Compton: for the the weeks which are indicated July 8, th through August 1st weekdays 1667 02:32:36.823 --> 02:33:00.979 John Compton: from the planning commission from Peter. Planning Commission has agreed that the the changing our existing ordinances that restrict uses at the commercial corner should be examined and consideration regarding the types of businesses allowed and potential residential use at the commercial corner 1668 02:33:01.100 --> 02:33:04.989 John Compton: be be considered. So they will be doing that. 1669 02:33:06.160 --> 02:33:07.960 John Compton: I'll just add. 1670 02:33:07.960 --> 02:33:09.280 Paula Puglisi: What's the shape? 1671 02:33:09.647 --> 02:33:14.052 John Compton: This is part and parcel of working with the property owner to 1672 02:33:14.420 --> 02:33:15.239 Peter Nagrod: Really makes up. 1673 02:33:15.240 --> 02:33:16.710 John Compton: Property, of course. 1674 02:33:16.730 --> 02:33:17.410 Peter Nagrod: Hmm. 1675 02:33:17.410 --> 02:33:21.359 John Compton: We've we've already seen a conceptual one possible. 1676 02:33:21.360 --> 02:33:22.620 Paula Puglisi: Concentrate. 1677 02:33:22.960 --> 02:33:26.570 John Compton: That for that sort of a renovation 1678 02:33:29.260 --> 02:33:31.526 John Compton: also from Peter on maintenance 1679 02:33:31.980 --> 02:33:36.599 Peter Nagrod: Hey? We we have to. We have to back up for the planning commission. You left out the most important thing 1680 02:33:36.970 --> 02:33:39.200 Peter Nagrod: that we reelected. 1681 02:33:39.200 --> 02:33:39.890 John Compton: Oh! 1682 02:33:39.890 --> 02:33:40.640 Peter Nagrod: Irwin, Man. 1683 02:33:40.913 --> 02:33:43.649 John Compton: Charge yet. Yeah, I thought that was a foregone conclusion. 1684 02:33:44.271 --> 02:33:46.759 Peter Nagrod: Just because I know. 1685 02:33:46.760 --> 02:33:51.330 John Compton: I know the I know the other 4 members, were you? You're not allowed the other. 1686 02:33:51.330 --> 02:33:51.670 Paula Puglisi: And the. 1687 02:33:52.051 --> 02:33:55.868 John Compton: Other members were all lobbying heavily to become chairman, so. 1688 02:33:56.713 --> 02:33:57.640 marywarfield: And then. 1689 02:33:58.320 --> 02:34:00.060 John Compton: Back, Georgia has been really. 1690 02:34:00.060 --> 02:34:01.210 Peter Nagrod: Hey! 1691 02:34:01.210 --> 02:34:08.909 John Compton: Very good. Thank you, Georgette, for for being willing to hurt the cats here. 1692 02:34:11.130 --> 02:34:27.980 John Compton: okay in in maintenance one item I I just thought with note, was that Rj. Landscapers our contractor was, you know, prioritized working here in town to clean up after the the recent storm 1693 02:34:28.010 --> 02:34:40.278 John Compton: where the tornado did a huge amount of tree, and whatever damage in in the near old town. So that you know that that's 1694 02:34:41.020 --> 02:34:45.304 John Compton: you know they they they have certainly taken their 1695 02:34:45.820 --> 02:34:48.969 John Compton: prioritize their responsibilities for the town. That's great. 1696 02:34:50.020 --> 02:34:52.760 John Compton: Either that or Peter threatened them. I don't. 1697 02:34:56.090 --> 02:35:08.959 John Compton: yeah, just the 43, and beautification report from Barbara. This, of course, is the season when the new trees were planted, 12 canopy trees of low medium categorized as low medium, and 1698 02:35:09.170 --> 02:35:11.310 John Compton: Paul, or large. 1699 02:35:11.410 --> 02:35:15.469 John Compton: were planted in early May, and 1700 02:35:15.500 --> 02:35:26.020 John Compton: several areas on Grove Avenue were cleared of invasive bush honeysuckle, and they're now working on deciding what to replace them. 1701 02:35:26.100 --> 02:35:33.769 John Compton: and how to keep it from growing back, since it's a not not so easy to remove with one whack. 1702 02:35:35.890 --> 02:35:46.598 John Compton: and lastly, of note regarding the website from Barbara. The recordings of the 2,024 annual meeting, and the recent 1703 02:35:47.100 --> 02:35:55.670 John Compton: Town Council meetings are now available on Youtube. They can be reached easily from our town website to do Christine 1704 02:35:55.740 --> 02:36:04.369 John Compton: Christine dibbles efforts, and the intention is to continue to post recordings of these meetings and make them available. 1705 02:36:05.240 --> 02:36:08.299 John Compton: There's also a lot of other updates to the website, so 1706 02:36:08.350 --> 02:36:11.629 John Compton: you can go and see the other work that's been done. 1707 02:36:12.660 --> 02:36:20.640 John Compton: Okay, so that's my of note. Anybody else is now welcome to mention anything they they wish to. 1708 02:36:22.180 --> 02:36:23.860 John Compton: on on their reports. 1709 02:36:25.810 --> 02:36:30.020 Peter Nagrod: John, I would just like to. I haven't thought this through, but 1710 02:36:30.280 --> 02:36:39.209 Peter Nagrod: the the way we do minutes in the town. I know there's probably another answer to this, but just that we could think about. If there's any way with the with technology. 1711 02:36:39.220 --> 02:36:44.370 Peter Nagrod: if there's a way for us to get a summary of all the meetings 1712 02:36:44.640 --> 02:36:53.420 Peter Nagrod: out to the residents sooner, because, like, I have on the number of times gone to the website trying to find out information from committees 1713 02:36:53.460 --> 02:37:08.919 Peter Nagrod: and we are so far behind on our minutes. And you know there is technology out there. So I I'm not saying we talk about it tonight, but I just think it would be nice if we think about if there's a way for us to somehow. 1714 02:37:08.920 --> 02:37:13.250 John Compton: Have thought about later, actually, probably before you join the Council. 1715 02:37:13.250 --> 02:37:13.710 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1716 02:37:13.710 --> 02:37:28.359 John Compton: Christine. we have discussed. And we actually came up with a framework for doing that which would put the responsibility for committee minutes on the committee and allow them to post them in a place where 1717 02:37:28.400 --> 02:37:33.240 John Compton: you know, there would be a link, and they post them. It's like a Google Doc thing. 1718 02:37:33.260 --> 02:37:46.660 John Compton: And they were, their responsibility would all fall on the the those producing the minutes. But we haven't implemented it. So your point, you know. I I suggest, rather than go through me. You talk to Christine about that 1719 02:37:47.420 --> 02:37:48.190 John Compton: devil. 1720 02:37:48.680 --> 02:37:50.789 Peter Nagrod: No, alright. Georgia. 1721 02:37:50.790 --> 02:37:53.020 John Compton: I will. I will, if you want, but I can. 1722 02:37:53.020 --> 02:37:55.900 Peter Nagrod: No, it's not, but it's not. Christine can't do it. It's gotta be. 1723 02:37:55.900 --> 02:38:01.066 John Compton: No, no, she needs to set up the needs to set it up a website so that. 1724 02:38:01.842 --> 02:38:03.260 Peter Nagrod: Great. Job. Yeah. 1725 02:38:03.260 --> 02:38:04.770 Georgette Cole: Has set that up. 1726 02:38:05.030 --> 02:38:06.409 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, exactly. You are. 1727 02:38:06.660 --> 02:38:07.000 Georgette Cole: Like me. 1728 02:38:07.000 --> 02:38:09.790 John Compton: And begin to saddle anybody with doing that. 1729 02:38:09.790 --> 02:38:10.860 Georgette Cole: No, no! There's 1730 02:38:11.190 --> 02:38:15.680 Georgette Cole: where she put links on each each committee's web page. 1731 02:38:16.500 --> 02:38:19.429 Georgette Cole: Click on to go to a Google Doc. 1732 02:38:22.010 --> 02:38:25.351 Georgette Cole: site where their agendas are 1733 02:38:26.050 --> 02:38:31.329 Georgette Cole: and and most of them are are are up to date, or pretty up to date. Last time I looked. 1734 02:38:32.690 --> 02:38:37.718 Peter Nagrod: If if you look on the well, if you look on the web, I'm looking at 3 months trying to 1735 02:38:38.170 --> 02:38:43.770 Peter Nagrod: it's not on there for the minutes. Unless I'm it's it's I'm in the minutes section. 1736 02:38:44.440 --> 02:38:45.450 Peter Nagrod: But but no, maybe. 1737 02:38:45.450 --> 02:38:46.140 John Compton: That's something. 1738 02:38:46.140 --> 02:38:46.680 Peter Nagrod: To look at. 1739 02:38:46.903 --> 02:38:48.020 John Compton: Back to that. Let's go. 1740 02:38:48.020 --> 02:38:54.440 Peter Nagrod: But when we when we look at, maybe when we look at, you know, guidelines for committees, we'll also consider this. Okay. 1741 02:38:54.440 --> 02:38:55.080 John Compton: Okay. 1742 02:38:55.310 --> 02:38:56.050 John Compton: Aye. 1743 02:38:56.590 --> 02:39:00.590 John Compton: alright, that's it. Next meeting is July. 1744 02:39:01.300 --> 02:39:03.190 John Compton: We'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 1745 02:39:04.710 --> 02:39:05.470 John Compton: Hey? 1746 02:39:06.840 --> 02:39:08.700 Eva: Motion to adjourn. 1747 02:39:08.870 --> 02:39:09.460 Peter Nagrod: Let's go. 1748 02:39:09.460 --> 02:39:10.739 John Compton: But Jordan. Thanks everybody. 1749 02:39:10.740 --> 02:39:11.850 Barbara: Excellent, everybody. 1750 02:39:11.850 --> 02:39:13.070 Peter Nagrod: And everybody.