WEBVTT 1 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:05.660 John Compton: Good evening, everybody. 2 00:01:06.340 --> 00:01:07.350 John Compton: Rob 3 00:01:09.540 --> 00:01:11.310 John Compton: Chris Georgette! 4 00:01:11.970 --> 00:01:12.780 John Compton: There's 5 00:01:13.470 --> 00:01:15.890 John Compton: Barbara Ava! Jean 6 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.510 John Compton: Phil Edwards. Wow! 7 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:21.030 John Compton: We. 8 00:01:21.290 --> 00:01:23.529 John Compton: We've got all sorts of people here. 9 00:01:29.050 --> 00:01:34.309 Barbara: So, John, I know you want me to record as well. And 10 00:01:35.198 --> 00:01:36.989 Barbara: if somebody could just 11 00:01:37.420 --> 00:01:39.760 Barbara: tell me how to record it as a. 12 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:40.890 John Compton: I think. 13 00:01:40.890 --> 00:01:41.310 Barbara: Yes. 14 00:01:41.310 --> 00:01:47.710 John Compton: I'm recording it since you. You've performed your function. But I need to. For some reason. 15 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:52.540 John Compton: There. It says it's recording. 16 00:01:52.750 --> 00:01:53.570 Barbara: Yes. 17 00:01:53.570 --> 00:01:58.399 John Compton: Yeah, you should be able to record down below somewhere. There's a i think, along your. 18 00:01:58.400 --> 00:01:59.859 Barbara: Right? Okay. 19 00:01:59.860 --> 00:02:01.129 John Compton: There's an ability. 20 00:02:01.130 --> 00:02:02.969 Barbara: Oh, I see it! I see it! I see it! 21 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:13.329 John Compton: Okay. It asked me. And I said, Okay, so. 22 00:02:13.330 --> 00:02:14.040 Barbara: Okay. 23 00:03:06.700 --> 00:03:07.630 Peter Nagrod: Hey, Barbara. 24 00:03:07.820 --> 00:03:09.329 Peter Nagrod: while we're waiting for John 25 00:03:10.100 --> 00:03:13.550 Peter Nagrod: Steve. Steve Shannon looked at the agenda tonight. 26 00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:17.649 Peter Nagrod: and he saw paramilitary training instead of. 27 00:03:19.390 --> 00:03:21.438 Peter Nagrod: and he he got very excited. 28 00:03:22.810 --> 00:03:25.879 Peter Nagrod: So maybe that's maybe that's the next session you can plan on. 29 00:03:30.660 --> 00:03:32.239 Robert Gilmore: I'll be sure to make that session. 30 00:03:36.390 --> 00:03:42.540 John Compton: Yeah, that's that's an auto. Fill it, it goes it. It auto fills parliamentary to paramilitary. 31 00:03:42.540 --> 00:03:47.069 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, yeah. Well, we'll see how the election goes, whether we need to do that or not. Okay. 32 00:03:47.070 --> 00:03:47.675 John Compton: That's. 33 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:48.900 Peter Nagrod: Hey! Kay! 34 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:50.219 John Compton: That's enough of that. 35 00:03:50.220 --> 00:03:50.970 Peter Nagrod: Yes. 36 00:03:52.993 --> 00:03:53.686 John Compton: Alright! 37 00:03:55.140 --> 00:04:00.686 John Compton: Alright that! Let's see who who all the council is. Here. Peter's here. 38 00:04:01.600 --> 00:04:08.270 John Compton: Barbara! Chris, Rob, and we're looking for Mary. She's down here, but not we can't see her so. 39 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:10.760 John Compton: Let's call the 40 00:04:11.470 --> 00:04:17.519 John Compton: the october 14th meeting of the Washington Grove Town Council to order 41 00:04:17.730 --> 00:04:23.889 John Compton: 1st item of a business, as always, is approval of the agenda. 42 00:04:24.210 --> 00:04:30.750 John Compton: So you all received the agenda. I'm gonna show it here. I'll reduce its size a little bit. There. 43 00:04:31.955 --> 00:04:33.740 John Compton: You'll see in 44 00:04:33.860 --> 00:04:37.370 John Compton: what appears to be now several colors. For some reason 45 00:04:37.670 --> 00:04:39.740 John Compton: not sure why. 46 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:46.719 John Compton: The differences between the agenda I'm showing you and the one that was distributed earlier. 47 00:04:47.041 --> 00:04:52.000 John Compton: And it and these are all added items, and they were all they're all in my report. 48 00:04:52.300 --> 00:04:55.370 John Compton: So just those are the only differences. 49 00:04:55.750 --> 00:04:59.520 John Compton: So I'd like a motion to approve the agenda. 50 00:05:00.940 --> 00:05:02.910 Peter Nagrod: Motion to approve the agenda. 51 00:05:03.420 --> 00:05:07.749 John Compton: Any opposed or comments on the agenda. See, I learned something. 52 00:05:07.750 --> 00:05:08.690 Eva Langston: Yesterday. 53 00:05:08.690 --> 00:05:09.240 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 54 00:05:09.990 --> 00:05:11.680 Peter Nagrod: we'll see about that. 55 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:15.869 John Compton: The objections to the agenda. I will say about that exactly. 56 00:05:16.250 --> 00:05:16.500 Peter Nagrod: But 57 00:05:17.510 --> 00:05:19.829 Peter Nagrod: we're watching you carefully tonight, John. 58 00:05:20.370 --> 00:05:24.150 John Compton: Gotta buy today because we haven't actually 59 00:05:24.810 --> 00:05:26.800 John Compton: decided to change anything. 60 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:27.450 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 61 00:05:27.450 --> 00:05:39.519 John Compton: All right, since there are no objections. The agenda is approved as shown here, and we'll go through it. So the 1st item next item of business is public appearances 62 00:05:40.184 --> 00:05:48.950 John Compton: publicly limited to 3 min on subjects that are not listed on the agenda. 63 00:05:49.447 --> 00:05:54.572 John Compton: Those we will take your comment in at the time of the 64 00:05:55.870 --> 00:06:00.180 John Compton: of the Webert. We get to that agenda. Item. 65 00:06:00.856 --> 00:06:08.360 John Compton: With a couple of caveats. When we get to that item on the agenda. Any public appearances 66 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.930 John Compton: on another subject? 67 00:06:12.830 --> 00:06:18.383 John Compton: Okay, if we have no public appearances, then our next item of business is 68 00:06:18.910 --> 00:06:33.449 John Compton: The the treasurer's report. Jean is here to comment on the treasurer's report, and I'll turn it over to Jean if she has anything to. 69 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:35.090 John Compton: and. 70 00:06:35.090 --> 00:06:39.859 Jean Moyer: I was just yeah. I was just gonna make a couple comments on 71 00:06:39.900 --> 00:06:44.519 Jean Moyer: the real property and dwelling tax appear to be 72 00:06:44.790 --> 00:06:49.360 Jean Moyer: low. It's not an even receipt each month. 73 00:06:49.670 --> 00:06:54.750 Jean Moyer: But I did just today receive a little over a hundred 1,000 74 00:06:55.010 --> 00:07:00.610 Jean Moyer: from the county, so that should put those percents more in line 75 00:07:02.570 --> 00:07:03.970 Jean Moyer: and then 76 00:07:04.010 --> 00:07:06.160 Jean Moyer: down in miscellaneous 77 00:07:08.150 --> 00:07:10.870 Jean Moyer: the action hauling invoice 78 00:07:11.675 --> 00:07:14.834 Jean Moyer: Peter, I don't know if you want to get involved. 79 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.440 Jean Moyer: This year we're invoicing in 4 installments. 80 00:07:19.770 --> 00:07:25.220 Jean Moyer: The 1st installment went out in July, and was due the end of September 81 00:07:25.470 --> 00:07:33.070 Jean Moyer: had not received it. I did send a reminder invoice out. He's notorious for paying late. 82 00:07:33.849 --> 00:07:40.439 Jean Moyer: It is still unpaid. I'll be getting ready to send out the second installment. Invoice. 83 00:07:40.610 --> 00:07:46.320 Jean Moyer: It'll include the unpaid balance, and we had put into the contract 84 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:50.280 Jean Moyer: a penalty fee for not paying, so that 85 00:07:51.671 --> 00:07:56.969 Jean Moyer: Peter, I think you might be the one that might help facilitate this if I'm correct. 86 00:07:56.970 --> 00:08:00.010 Peter Nagrod: What is this? The commercial, the commercial calling. 87 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.250 Jean Moyer: No action, hall. 88 00:08:03.140 --> 00:08:04.850 Peter Nagrod: Oh, no, that's not me! That's not me. 89 00:08:04.850 --> 00:08:05.499 Jean Moyer: Have a big. 90 00:08:05.500 --> 00:08:07.210 John Compton: Hey! Rob! 91 00:08:07.210 --> 00:08:09.251 Robert Gilmore: I'm I'm happy to to 92 00:08:09.900 --> 00:08:12.340 Jean Moyer: Can reach out as well, and Kathy can, too. 93 00:08:12.340 --> 00:08:12.850 Robert Gilmore: Yeah. 94 00:08:12.850 --> 00:08:16.439 Jean Moyer: I just wanted to put the Council on notice for that 95 00:08:18.310 --> 00:08:31.129 Jean Moyer: and that those were the comments I wanted to make. Other comments are in the report in the Comments section. Happy to answer any questions. If folks 96 00:08:32.140 --> 00:08:34.330 Jean Moyer: have any questions. 97 00:08:34.984 --> 00:08:42.250 Jean Moyer: We're running, you know, at 8, I think revenue is at 18% for the year 98 00:08:43.301 --> 00:08:47.720 Jean Moyer: expenses at 13% of budget. So 99 00:08:48.370 --> 00:08:50.689 Jean Moyer: I have no concerns at all. 100 00:08:50.780 --> 00:08:52.019 Jean Moyer: At the moment. 101 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:53.870 Robert Gilmore: Great. 102 00:08:55.930 --> 00:08:58.590 John Compton: So any questions for Jane. 103 00:08:59.120 --> 00:08:59.880 John Compton: Nope. 104 00:09:00.633 --> 00:09:00.996 Jean Moyer: Hello! 105 00:09:02.130 --> 00:09:09.689 John Compton: If not, we'll follow our traditional procedure of voting. On accepting the treasurer's report. 106 00:09:09.950 --> 00:09:11.700 John Compton: all in favor 107 00:09:14.130 --> 00:09:15.720 John Compton: any opposed 108 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:17.680 John Compton: alright. 109 00:09:18.180 --> 00:09:21.719 John Compton: Then treasurer's report is accepted. 110 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:27.860 John Compton: Alright the next item on the agenda is my report. 111 00:09:28.570 --> 00:09:32.140 John Compton: which I will give as soon as I get this thing larger. 112 00:09:32.290 --> 00:09:33.380 John Compton: So you all 113 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:36.888 John Compton: all right. So 1st off kudos 114 00:09:38.141 --> 00:09:53.559 John Compton: the kudos for the last month, during most of which I wasn't here. But nevertheless, some great volunteer events went on, and led principally by Tom Land. 115 00:09:53.760 --> 00:10:05.569 John Compton: who can see who, perhaps with others. But nevertheless he he was the voice of the and of organizing the contractor appreciation event at the lake. 116 00:10:05.930 --> 00:10:10.319 John Compton: which, in spite of being postponed a week or so. 117 00:10:10.821 --> 00:10:13.769 John Compton: I understand, was a major success 118 00:10:14.220 --> 00:10:16.000 John Compton: from at least the town 119 00:10:16.060 --> 00:10:20.122 John Compton: resonance point of view. Hopefully, those of our 120 00:10:20.930 --> 00:10:24.310 John Compton: our vendors and and contractors who came 121 00:10:24.420 --> 00:10:35.702 John Compton: found it to be so as well on on a very nice day. So so really that that was a great, great idea, and apparently 122 00:10:36.180 --> 00:10:38.560 John Compton: very good day for everybody 123 00:10:40.372 --> 00:10:48.160 John Compton: the the other kudos go for the 70 plus birthday party, I guess, is what it actually was. 124 00:10:49.780 --> 00:10:54.009 John Compton: I never got the memo in time to have actually planned to attend. 125 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.149 John Compton: Yes, actually, I am 126 00:10:56.410 --> 00:11:19.349 John Compton: 70 plus but those who went, and the description of the party and the planning, and all of that, apparently was a big success from from at least from those who of you who said something, and once again to Tom and anyone else who I'm unaware of, who 127 00:11:19.930 --> 00:11:24.346 John Compton: participated in that fantastic idea. 128 00:11:25.390 --> 00:11:34.109 John Compton: maybe maybe next year we can change the date to make sure everybody is aware. But no, no, I'm kidding about that. It was good. 129 00:11:35.740 --> 00:11:47.350 John Compton: So until any other kudos or I apologize. If I didn't know about them. As I say, I was missing much of September, more than half of September I was I was away. 130 00:11:48.270 --> 00:11:56.920 John Compton: Okay. The next. The next item is the testimony to the Maryland lynching truth and Reconciliation commission. 131 00:11:57.940 --> 00:12:05.000 John Compton: This actually came up during September, and there the the State has a commission 132 00:12:05.648 --> 00:12:11.480 John Compton: and and it's probably I'm not certain. But I think it's in conjunction 133 00:12:11.850 --> 00:12:13.930 John Compton: with the 200 and 50.th 134 00:12:16.090 --> 00:12:25.923 John Compton: celebration! That's coming up. Recognition of of the State of Maryland. But they they formed a commission to 135 00:12:26.730 --> 00:12:27.745 John Compton: to 136 00:12:30.350 --> 00:12:33.559 John Compton: assemble and and and propose 137 00:12:34.238 --> 00:12:37.431 John Compton: actions that would would 138 00:12:41.690 --> 00:12:47.876 John Compton: recognize and and apologize for, and 139 00:12:49.563 --> 00:12:57.306 John Compton: make sure it's not forgotten that. You know, the the lynchings associated with 140 00:12:58.050 --> 00:13:05.590 John Compton: racism happened in Maryland as well in Montgomery County. This commission 141 00:13:05.590 --> 00:13:30.430 John Compton: is taking testimony in various counties. They had one on October 5, th here in Maryland, I mean in Montgomery County. I was out of town, but but Barbara, Councilor Armando stepped in and presented testimony, which was originally a draft, came from Charlie Charleston, who also would have testified, but 142 00:13:30.650 --> 00:13:39.260 John Compton: unfortunately was unable to for health reasons. But Barbara stepped up and actually wrote a terrific, a terrific 143 00:13:40.298 --> 00:13:43.929 John Compton: set of statements from from the town. 144 00:13:44.110 --> 00:13:49.960 John Compton: Obviously we don't have any lynchings in our history that we know of. Nor are we 145 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:53.490 John Compton: related to the 3 known lynchings in the county 146 00:13:54.100 --> 00:14:00.680 John Compton: but nevertheless they apparently wanted to hear from us because of our active 147 00:14:01.170 --> 00:14:03.060 John Compton: recognition 148 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:09.720 John Compton: of the racist actions associated with the town that predated the town 149 00:14:09.780 --> 00:14:21.459 John Compton: that included the town and our efforts to but well, our our apologies for it, and our intent and actions to 150 00:14:22.203 --> 00:14:27.270 John Compton: do better and remedy, and the the consequences. 151 00:14:27.920 --> 00:14:34.300 John Compton: Any consequences, and of that of the policies and the decisions 152 00:14:34.490 --> 00:14:40.840 John Compton: going forward. So Barbara did a great job. I urge you to read it. It is in the materials. 153 00:14:42.620 --> 00:14:42.970 John Compton: Yes. 154 00:14:42.970 --> 00:14:52.750 Paula Puglisi: May I just say one quick thing, that Commission is going to continue to meet, not just to recognize, but to also talk about practical reparations. 155 00:14:52.750 --> 00:14:55.886 John Compton: Yeah, that's what I meant. Right? Thank you, Paul. 156 00:14:58.380 --> 00:15:13.337 John Compton: All right. Next item on my report is the Green Bank, Washington Grove Climate Resilience project. We have a the Green Bank is has funded some pilot projects to 157 00:15:13.950 --> 00:15:29.190 John Compton: to address climate resilience, and to in which the Green Bank was provided some funding from the county, and perhaps some other sources as well, to help 158 00:15:30.446 --> 00:15:33.014 John Compton: municipalities and to 159 00:15:34.390 --> 00:15:49.170 John Compton: to achieve greater climate resilience with our changing our changing climate, and that that covers a whole variety of things. But we have a pilot project with them which we are very fortunate to have. 160 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:55.089 John Compton: I did want to show you. The the Council has seen this before, but I do want to show you 161 00:15:55.280 --> 00:15:55.944 John Compton: the 162 00:15:57.220 --> 00:15:58.170 John Compton: the 163 00:16:00.700 --> 00:16:05.169 John Compton: outline of of what the project entails. Hopefully, you can see this. 164 00:16:05.812 --> 00:16:09.349 John Compton: It involves up to $400,000. 165 00:16:09.846 --> 00:16:15.529 John Compton: There's a variety of components. The main focus early on was the Westwoods restoration 166 00:16:16.001 --> 00:16:22.760 John Compton: due to due to stormwater damage. So this is something, of course, that we've we've been aiming at for some years. 167 00:16:22.830 --> 00:16:35.340 John Compton: So there's been progress on that. The reason I'm reporting it tonight is because the Green Bank has contracted with the Maryland environmental Systems Mes 168 00:16:35.520 --> 00:16:41.349 John Compton: to to conduct a survey in the town of of Water runoff. 169 00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:49.300 John Compton: affecting the re, the West woods to and and the 170 00:16:49.550 --> 00:16:55.700 John Compton: mes is going to aid in identifying grant opportunities. 171 00:16:56.764 --> 00:16:59.056 John Compton: And put together 172 00:17:00.390 --> 00:17:02.770 John Compton: grant applications 173 00:17:02.860 --> 00:17:13.459 John Compton: for addressing the stormwater issues. In the rest. You can see it's written here. It's in the materials. You can read it in more detail. There's some sequential 174 00:17:13.490 --> 00:17:16.760 John Compton: sequential parts of this project. 175 00:17:17.448 --> 00:17:23.672 John Compton: And it even includes in in later in the year, 176 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:36.770 John Compton: effects of of stormwater floodwater on private property and assistance as to how to help residents deal with that. 177 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:44.069 John Compton: And lastly, it's going to be expanded to address climate resilience in general. 178 00:17:44.660 --> 00:17:46.140 John Compton: such as 179 00:17:47.550 --> 00:17:52.980 John Compton: having a a place to shelter in the event of a climate related. 180 00:17:53.668 --> 00:18:01.129 John Compton: Emergency, such as an ex, you know, an extended loss of electricity due to a storm. 181 00:18:02.750 --> 00:18:11.230 John Compton: and other associated types of things related to heating. You know where we're too hot 182 00:18:11.670 --> 00:18:14.300 John Compton: for extended periods, you know. 183 00:18:14.340 --> 00:18:22.560 John Compton: Do we need a place where people can seek some refuge from heat things associated with climate? 184 00:18:22.850 --> 00:18:24.900 John Compton: And that's that's 185 00:18:24.910 --> 00:18:33.130 John Compton: been been added to the project. And may may have some practical application later in in this fiscal year. 186 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.409 John Compton: Okay, that's all I wanted to say about that. 187 00:18:39.690 --> 00:18:46.800 John Compton: right going on to the next item is the energy Audit plan for the Mccathron Hall. The Sustainability Committee. 188 00:18:47.399 --> 00:19:08.420 John Compton: Has proposed. Well, they've proposed to do an energy audit of Mccathron Hall. It's an energy about evaluation of energy use. I think we all actually know what that is. But the idea is to you know? How can how can energy use be reduced at at Mcatherine Hall for all the various. 189 00:19:08.490 --> 00:19:11.640 John Compton: for for for all the various 190 00:19:12.910 --> 00:19:23.370 John Compton: areas? And what are what would be needed to do that? What are the various options to improve and reduce energy use? At the Hall? 191 00:19:24.810 --> 00:19:26.370 John Compton: This is. 192 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.730 John Compton: I understand one of the things that 193 00:19:30.150 --> 00:19:38.180 John Compton: is needed to to move our sustainability, our our designation as a. 194 00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:57.289 John Compton: and I'm gonna blow this because I didn't review it. Our our sustainability Maryland category. We're in the lowest category, whatever that is bronze level to move to the next level among the things they want. They they that gets that is need is improves. Our 195 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:02.197 John Compton: our sustainability rating is this would be this 196 00:20:03.020 --> 00:20:07.420 John Compton: energy audit. The problem with the energy audit is. Obviously it costs money. 197 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:18.100 John Compton: And once again we're going to be talking to the Green Bank, who also has a an interest in promoting and and aiding 198 00:20:19.035 --> 00:20:23.640 John Compton: private entities, and others in doing energy audits. 199 00:20:23.770 --> 00:20:24.495 John Compton: So 200 00:20:25.650 --> 00:20:31.929 John Compton: just want everybody to be aware of that. There's nothing in the budget for an energy audit. We have one quotation 201 00:20:32.090 --> 00:20:38.649 John Compton: from one outfit that does it. It's on the order. Or that quotation was on the order of $2,500 202 00:20:40.390 --> 00:20:42.316 John Compton: to do a detailed 203 00:20:43.390 --> 00:20:44.760 John Compton: evaluation. 204 00:20:46.341 --> 00:20:48.988 John Compton: Continuing on the 205 00:20:49.830 --> 00:20:52.449 John Compton: the town 206 00:20:52.470 --> 00:21:03.070 John Compton: received a sustainable communities. Grant award from Pepco for $10,000 for environmental stewardship 207 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:04.270 John Compton: use 208 00:21:04.961 --> 00:21:09.208 John Compton: and this was applied for by the Meadow Committee. 209 00:21:10.134 --> 00:21:14.480 John Compton: to obtain funds to be used in the Meadow Restoration. 210 00:21:14.820 --> 00:21:33.219 John Compton: a plan which we are going to be discussing. We have been discussing, and we'll continue to discuss. And it's on the agenda later on. But we have, we have $10,000 to use. should we? Decide to move ahead with a Restoration plan. 211 00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:50.590 John Compton: the streetlight inventory. This has been going on some time. As you know, we have a lighting committee, and among the things they've taken the lead on is to 212 00:21:54.220 --> 00:22:07.200 John Compton: ensure or achieve the potential for the town to own our own streetlights. The reason for for that I won't go into now, but there are good reasons, because Pepco has in the past. 213 00:22:07.280 --> 00:22:11.929 John Compton: and may again may still in the future propose to the Public Service Commission 214 00:22:11.940 --> 00:22:16.790 John Compton: that changes in the streetlights throughout 215 00:22:16.850 --> 00:22:18.690 John Compton: the Pepco area 216 00:22:18.740 --> 00:22:34.110 John Compton: be be allowed and some of those changes we may not appreciate and if we were to own our own streetlights, then we would be we would be 217 00:22:34.547 --> 00:22:40.060 John Compton: great and greater control of any changes. So the lighting committee's been working on that. 218 00:22:40.170 --> 00:22:45.300 John Compton: My report is that we've been working to get an accurate Street Light inventory which 219 00:22:45.590 --> 00:23:03.259 John Compton: remember, this is Pepco. And historically there's been been some disconnect with. Of course, Washington Grove is a small municipality, but it's true, for other municipalities as well. Their inventory of streetlights was very deficient. Our inventory of streetlights 220 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:14.030 John Compton: we didn't take a big interest in until we started to try and reduce our energy consumption, which we've been very successful at. But now now we've just agreed on a definitive 221 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:18.850 John Compton: not that it wouldn't, couldn't change, but a bit definitive inventory. 222 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.590 John Compton: And that's a good thing. 223 00:23:22.218 --> 00:23:25.809 John Compton: Just as an aside, Pepco will be submitting 224 00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:28.030 John Compton: another tariff 225 00:23:29.470 --> 00:23:41.260 John Compton: request to the Public Service Commission. They're holding some meetings to inform interested parties, including municipalities and everyone what that consists of 226 00:23:41.260 --> 00:24:02.539 John Compton: we're anticipating. It will consist of a lot of of a lot of the modifications to Pre. The previous tariff, which were negotiated in as directed by the Psc. Last the last time they did a tariff. So that's going to happen November. So there's more to do on this. And this is just a progress report. 227 00:24:03.970 --> 00:24:06.619 John Compton: the inventory. At least we have, I think. 228 00:24:06.970 --> 00:24:08.370 John Compton: assembled 229 00:24:09.450 --> 00:24:22.366 John Compton: all right. The next item is the Parliamentary procedure training, which happened yesterday for the Council and and some of some committee chairs who were interested. It was a very 230 00:24:24.530 --> 00:24:25.620 John Compton: useful 231 00:24:26.196 --> 00:24:32.520 John Compton: and and and I think it went for 3 h, but it didn't seem that long, at least to me. 232 00:24:33.164 --> 00:24:35.259 John Compton: So we now are. 233 00:24:35.712 --> 00:24:41.349 John Compton: All experts in Robert's rules of order, and we won't ever have a problem with procedure. 234 00:24:41.540 --> 00:24:51.739 John Compton: and if that was true, I I would have to resign. But we we do have. We've gotten some a lot of expert advice 235 00:24:52.228 --> 00:25:15.099 John Compton: as to how how meetings should be run can be run. What the what? The what the what the rules of order, then their hierarchy are, and some some aids for for using those and we will some, at least with respect to town. 236 00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:22.049 John Compton: the the town meeting will be implementing some of those and hopefully things will be smooth 237 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:25.790 John Compton: when we get to the meeting. 238 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:28.280 John Compton: All right. 239 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:39.482 John Compton: On October 19, th Gabriel Acevero, our one of our 3 delegates say delegates in District 39 has organized a 240 00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:43.659 John Compton: But he is calling a. 241 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:58.660 John Compton: It's actually a district 39 event. But it's a it's the theme is sustainability and climate justice for all taking place at at the Hall, and residents and public are invited to join 242 00:25:58.760 --> 00:26:08.619 John Compton: there will be invited speakers. I do not have an agenda as to exactly what it will entail, but it's for 2 h 11 to one 243 00:26:08.740 --> 00:26:09.890 John Compton: on the 19.th 244 00:26:11.141 --> 00:26:30.059 John Compton: Another announcement reminder that we have contracted with leadership. Montgomery, to conduct a town wide. Everyone in town is is invited to participate a diversity, equity, inclusion, education, system. 245 00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:32.050 John Compton: It, too, is 3 h. 246 00:26:32.090 --> 00:26:34.399 John Compton: however, from 9 to 12 247 00:26:34.921 --> 00:26:36.680 John Compton: I think that's a Saturday. 248 00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:40.769 John Compton: November 16.th A sign up will be required 249 00:26:41.288 --> 00:26:54.920 John Compton: and there will be a registration form towards the end of this month, or or at least at the very beginning of November. So anyone wanting to attend need will need to sign up, but but 250 00:26:54.970 --> 00:26:56.320 John Compton: you're free to do it. 251 00:26:57.785 --> 00:27:05.689 John Compton: The Washington Grove haunted Woods this year will be from 4 Pm. On Saturday, October 26th in the Gazebo 252 00:27:07.100 --> 00:27:13.680 John Compton: The trick or treating this year will be held on Halloween from 6 to 8, 253 00:27:14.570 --> 00:27:38.340 John Compton: and the last thing I want to just mention is that as part of our 150th celebration last year, as you know, Craig English designed a poster which the town purchased. Some we purchased actually quite a few. The pricing had a very unusual 254 00:27:38.860 --> 00:27:39.960 John Compton: scale. 255 00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:52.960 John Compton: For very few dollars. We got a lot more posters, so consequently we have a lot of posters that were not purchased by anybody else, and the intention was that they would be would make excellent 256 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:55.730 John Compton: thank you. Appreciation. 257 00:27:56.918 --> 00:28:21.740 John Compton: press gifts to people who come to town are invited to town for various reasons, to speak to to, you know, on maybe maybe to tour whatever. And so I'm just making this public announcement that everyone should keep in mind that these are available, and they can plan and request to get one or 5 or whatever it is 258 00:28:21.840 --> 00:28:24.119 John Compton: for use for this purpose. 259 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.049 John Compton: and that wraps up 260 00:28:27.590 --> 00:28:29.909 John Compton: my report with 261 00:28:31.860 --> 00:28:42.639 John Compton: with, and we have one more report to come, so I'll if there are any questions on any of those items, maybe this is the time to take them from the council. Only, please. 262 00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:45.489 John Compton: But I have any questions. 263 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:47.570 John Compton: Okay. 264 00:28:47.570 --> 00:28:51.529 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, no, John, just just for the the event coming up. 265 00:28:51.670 --> 00:28:53.449 Peter Nagrod: We're a volunteer 266 00:28:53.760 --> 00:28:56.460 Peter Nagrod: that we're a volunteer at town. 267 00:28:56.490 --> 00:29:07.419 Peter Nagrod: And the it's the same people doing the same thing all the time. So for the haunted house we could really use some help on Friday and Saturday, so 268 00:29:07.530 --> 00:29:15.300 Peter Nagrod: we'll put out the notice. And just please think about donating a little bit of time to help the kids. It's for the kids and you get free. Get candy. So 269 00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:16.570 Peter Nagrod: it's worth it. Thanks. 270 00:29:16.570 --> 00:29:23.310 John Compton: And it's and and it's and it's just set up and all that. You don't. Actually, if you if you're if you can't be there during the hour. 271 00:29:23.310 --> 00:29:24.570 Peter Nagrod: Exactly. Yup, you won't. 272 00:29:24.570 --> 00:29:25.190 John Compton: Yeah. 273 00:29:25.725 --> 00:29:26.259 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 274 00:29:26.930 --> 00:29:29.540 John Compton: It's it just takes effort to put it together. Thank you. 275 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:31.299 John Compton: That's a good 276 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.080 John Compton: good thing to get out there. Anybody else? 277 00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:48.131 John Compton: Alright. So we actually have one more report rather than giving the shared use pathway report. We've invited Gene kaposnick, of the 278 00:29:48.790 --> 00:29:55.539 John Compton: Montgomery County Department of transportation, who is leading the Washington Grove Connector engineering. 279 00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:57.450 John Compton: Planning 280 00:29:58.710 --> 00:30:10.710 John Compton: and when I invited her to come and give a fairly brief status report as to where that is. As you know, we all wanted it built 281 00:30:10.930 --> 00:30:36.567 John Compton: last week, but I think even they want it built last week. But but there's a there, there's a a lot of work to get it built, so we thought we could use a a report. So Jean Gene is here, Gene. I'll give a brief. Just so you don't have to do all of the background. I'm just reminding everyone that 282 00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:38.225 John Compton: that 283 00:30:39.250 --> 00:31:08.499 John Compton: last year after a series of of planning the planning board and and the earlier study. The go ahead was given to build the Connector independently of any other projects, because it had been had been connected to the Crabs Branch Amity Road, which has now been disconnected from that, and as a consequence it is it was put 284 00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:10.078 John Compton: with a with a little bit of 285 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:17.959 John Compton: A bit of a persuasion was put into the minor bicycle, or 286 00:31:18.430 --> 00:31:37.969 John Compton: I don't. I don't know exact name. There's a category in the capital Improvement budget from the minor bicycle improvement budget, and it was explicitly put in there for funding in this fiscal year, even though the Department of Transportation was was somewhat 287 00:31:38.340 --> 00:31:53.440 John Compton: a lot pessimistic that construction could get started in this fiscal year. But but we felt that we really wanted to get it in there and and and and hope that things went 288 00:31:53.850 --> 00:31:55.310 John Compton: faster than 289 00:31:56.071 --> 00:32:08.659 John Compton: than had been laid out as the timeline. So that's where it is now trying to get to to construction. And I, you know there's some things that have to happen. I'll let Jean talk about that Gene. 290 00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:29.370 Jean Kapusnick: Sure. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. That was a great introduction. I appreciate it so for those of you who haven't met me yet. My name is Jean. I work in the Department of Transportation in our transportation engineering group, and I am managing this project, which is a trail from the end of Crows Branch, way up to Brown Street, in Washington Grove and 291 00:32:29.690 --> 00:32:48.170 Jean Kapusnick: back in. I guess it was about February we met with the Transportation Environment Subcommittee, the town of Washington Grove. We had been interfacing with them as well, and we and in our office became comfortable enough with the plans that we decided on an alignment for this trail. 292 00:32:48.170 --> 00:33:03.480 Jean Kapusnick: meaning the path the path was going to take, and that allowed us to get going. Now we could finally get some ink on the paper and design these plans and start to really work toward a construction project, and we needed that decision to be made. 293 00:33:03.530 --> 00:33:32.019 Jean Kapusnick: At that time I set a schedule that was ambitious, though, after 18 years of waiting, Mr. Mayor, I know none of this sounds fast enough, and I totally agree, but projects like this do have to go through a lot of other bureaucracy, not just our bureaucracy, but other bureaucracies as well. And so you lay out a schedule in phases. And the 1st milestone. That 1st phase is about a 30% detail level plan. 294 00:33:32.330 --> 00:33:47.539 Jean Kapusnick: And at that time that 30% plan will lay out the alignment of the path, the width of that path, all the impacts you might have with the grading. Putting this path in to start identifying some of those impacts, to trees, to wetlands things like this. 295 00:33:47.540 --> 00:34:03.310 Jean Kapusnick: And you get a good idea of what this is going to look like. But then you pause because you want everybody involved to look at this and make sure that it looks okay. This is very typical at all levels of government for construction projects like this, they go through a phased approach. 296 00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:12.249 Jean Kapusnick: This 30% coincides with something that we're required to do, just like any developer in Montgomery County, and that is to go to the Park and planning commission. 297 00:34:12.500 --> 00:34:33.809 Jean Kapusnick: and we present our plan to them. Now, a developer that's doing a big housing development goes through a more rigorous review than we would. But we do still have to go to them in an advisory way and get their input on these projects that goes for schools that goes for parks that goes for dot projects, anything public like this. 298 00:34:34.179 --> 00:34:36.099 Jean Kapusnick: It does have to go through this process. 299 00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:45.799 Jean Kapusnick: So the ambitious schedule that I laid out was all of the interim steps worked with our consultant to make sure this was doable, because there's a lot of work they had to do 300 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:53.279 Jean Kapusnick: that we would have that mandatory referral meeting with the parking, planning planning board in October. 301 00:34:53.530 --> 00:34:58.059 Jean Kapusnick: which doesn't seem ambitious at all. From February to October to set up a meeting. But 302 00:34:58.230 --> 00:35:03.280 Jean Kapusnick: internally we met all of the internal dates that we had set. 303 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:26.589 Jean Kapusnick: We have 30. We're calling 35% on the the plan set that I shared with a few of you feel free to share this with anyone on the call or anyone else that's interested is a 35% plan, a lot of work. A lot of field work went into that. A lot of design went into that. A lot more engineering than it might look to actually get this thing, that? Yes, this is a feasible plan at 35%. 304 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.419 Jean Kapusnick: And so those plans are ready. 305 00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:37.910 Jean Kapusnick: But some of the aspects and some of the the pieces of this have to go through a pre-review before it goes to the planning board itself. 306 00:35:38.470 --> 00:35:45.010 Jean Kapusnick: and when I laid out this schedule. I put what I thought was a realistic timeframe for all of this to fall into place. 307 00:35:45.230 --> 00:36:01.180 Jean Kapusnick: and I want to explain where we are. But I want you please to understand that this is not meant to be defensive in any way. I'll tell you anything you want to know, and it's not meant to bring any type of microscope onto any other agencies that review these plans. Either 308 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:09.110 Jean Kapusnick: they take the time that they take. They are experts in their field, and we look to them to give us good feedback on these plans. 309 00:36:09.700 --> 00:36:20.890 Jean Kapusnick: But occasionally some of these reviews take a lot longer than you hope they would, and in this case the approach that the reviewer has taken has been very an iterative process 310 00:36:21.060 --> 00:36:39.539 Jean Kapusnick: where we're getting comments and we're responding right away. But then it's taking some time to hear from them again, and we're responding right away. So I finally spoke with the reviewer on Friday, and we've been indicating that this is something we felt we had a schedule. We're trying to get to the mandatory referral. 311 00:36:39.660 --> 00:36:46.539 Jean Kapusnick: And so they know that when I talked to her on Friday, at about 3 o'clock in the afternoon. I finally got in touch with her. 312 00:36:46.570 --> 00:37:11.129 Jean Kapusnick: and she, unsolicited, told me that our consultant is doing a great job. They're doing everything I've asked, but I just looked through it with a fine tooth comb and found a few more things. So that was Friday afternoon. So we are on track. We're doing everything we're supposed to be doing. This mandatory referral will happen. But we're just taking longer to get all of her comments addressed. 313 00:37:11.140 --> 00:37:23.929 Jean Kapusnick: I don't want you to think that this is in some way, either, that we just can't do our jobs. We're not giving them what they want to see. A lot of these comments have been preferences. 314 00:37:24.010 --> 00:37:37.310 Jean Kapusnick: Every project is different. The level of detail that someone might want to see on a 35% plan from one plan to another can vary. And so we're trying to nail down just getting an approval from them. For this aspect of the project. 315 00:37:37.875 --> 00:37:47.960 Jean Kapusnick: I've sent you all the plans. They they're all the layout of the project. The grading. We also have a lighting plan in there which we're required to to have as well. 316 00:37:48.070 --> 00:38:02.230 Jean Kapusnick: which was a very interesting conversation with a lighting engineer that I do not have a background in. I found this fascinating. This will be something we'll want to talk about as we go forward about thinking about when the trail might get used. 317 00:38:02.270 --> 00:38:26.340 Jean Kapusnick: Is there a concern about crime, or is there a concern more about the animals having, and birds having too much light at night? You know things like, how do we balance all of those choices. We have discussed those lighting plans with the Park, with Parks Department, because we're going to be adjacent to their property, and light does not, you know, adhere to the property lines, so we want to make sure they were comfortable. 318 00:38:26.580 --> 00:38:48.499 Jean Kapusnick: And they are. They're good with this. There is a bridge designed in this that you all had asked for, to have that over that that deeper part of this trail to put a bridge in that's been fully designed, I mean that had to be. We had to put a bridge that was going to work. It'll get further designed to make sure it's going to have all the right loads and everything. 319 00:38:48.680 --> 00:39:12.760 Jean Kapusnick: and reviewed internally later. But there's a lot of detail in these plans. It's just a matter of getting it all in front of that planning board getting their buy-in to the project. I won't say approval, but we want them to be comfortable with this plan, for sure there is a member of the planning board that used to manage the Parks department. We want to make sure she's comfortable with this as well, and so we'll have that meeting when we can 320 00:39:12.890 --> 00:39:20.980 Jean Kapusnick: brace yourselves. They have 60 days to schedule that meeting from the time we apply for the meeting. 321 00:39:21.010 --> 00:39:29.070 Jean Kapusnick: So I had built that all into this schedule, knowing this was going to be there, and we just didn't quite make it. And for that I apologize. 322 00:39:29.350 --> 00:39:45.379 Jean Kapusnick: That being said because this is taking longer like this, we can continue to work on the plans. We're not. This isn't just complete downtime. We can complete, continue to work on the plan. We can continue to get comments from all of you, if you'd like, on the plans now as well. 323 00:39:45.610 --> 00:39:49.470 Jean Kapusnick: When that planning board meeting happens, it's a public meeting. 324 00:39:49.580 --> 00:40:19.530 Jean Kapusnick: It's open to the public. They invite the public in. Whether it's written testimony. You could come to the meeting itself in Wheaton at the new building that's there. That's the park and planning headquarters, or you could call in like you're doing tonight. If anybody wants to give testimony for or against the project, you could feel free to do that as well. So I will get that information out to you as soon as we have it. There'll be a date, and then they'll open up the website will eventually open up for those comments and time to register for that. 325 00:40:19.700 --> 00:40:22.200 Jean Kapusnick: So that's the update here. 326 00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:37.130 Jean Kapusnick: I think it's going very well. It's just not as quick as I as I'd like as well as well. So we're on it. We talk about the project almost every day. It is not on our back, burner. It's not been forgotten by any stretch of the imagination. So 327 00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:40.659 Jean Kapusnick: I'll take any questions you have, or anything else. 328 00:40:40.660 --> 00:40:41.260 John Compton: Thank you. 329 00:40:41.560 --> 00:40:42.960 John Compton: Barbara. Go ahead. 330 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:54.781 Barbara: Alright thank you, Jean, for that report. And I I do have the 35% plan. And I've been trying to peruse it as best as I can. It's just like speaking another language, I think, sometimes with with these plans. 331 00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:55.400 Jean Kapusnick: Sure. 332 00:40:55.770 --> 00:41:03.190 Barbara: So do you have a date, I mean an anticipated date for the the mandatory referral at this point no. 333 00:41:03.190 --> 00:41:09.510 Jean Kapusnick: What I could. What I could tell you is that as soon as and I mean literally the day we got this approval. 334 00:41:09.970 --> 00:41:16.029 Jean Kapusnick: We'll take all of the plans that we have. They're already packaged and ready to go, except for that, approved one 335 00:41:16.794 --> 00:41:24.429 Jean Kapusnick: and send them to the the person that manages that planning process. We send them the plans 336 00:41:24.430 --> 00:41:46.240 Jean Kapusnick: 2 weeks later or so. Let me give them a few days to digest this, but 2 weeks later or so we'll have a meeting with hit with them in order to make sure everything is there. This might sound like a problem or a delay. But really, that's a good thing, because then it's there. They know it's there, and we're ready to go to apply them for the mandatory referral itself. 337 00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:55.649 Jean Kapusnick: And that process they have. I believe it's even in the county code. They have 60 days to prepare for that, and at that point they will give me a date. 338 00:41:55.710 --> 00:42:16.179 Jean Kapusnick: So we're looking at 2 to 3 months from now. You get that that process. I don't. Sometimes it varies. If they have a meeting that's got some huge development in it, and they just want to have a couple of things. They might push it out, you know 2 weeks later. But it'll be in that timeframe. 339 00:42:16.180 --> 00:42:17.100 Barbara: Alright. Thank you. 340 00:42:17.100 --> 00:42:18.190 Jean Kapusnick: I could tell you. 341 00:42:18.562 --> 00:42:31.289 Barbara: And and one other question. So I see you have a Pisia court plan in that as well. Have you been in discussions with people from that community yet, or I'm not sure how much involvement they've had. I just really haven't heard so. 342 00:42:31.290 --> 00:42:37.980 Jean Kapusnick: That's a great question. What the reason that's in the plan at all is because it came up at a public meeting. 343 00:42:38.510 --> 00:43:02.220 Jean Kapusnick: And it had been everything we saw for that. I went back and looked. I watched the public meeting to make sure I understood all this I talked to the old manager who now works at Parks, and he said, Oh, yeah, everyone was in in. They thought this was a great idea to have that connection because it gets them over to your street and then down to this trail, even if we don't connect through the through the meadow. 344 00:43:02.790 --> 00:43:04.040 Jean Kapusnick: Through the park itself. 345 00:43:04.540 --> 00:43:24.379 Jean Kapusnick: You'll see in those plans. And, by the way, Jay Everhart told me I had 5 min tonight, so I have I can make all the time you need. If anybody wants to go to a workshop with me, and I can show you how to read a set of plans and learn that language a little bit. I'd love to do that, and we could do it anytime. There are 2 versions of the Piscella view. 346 00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:25.350 Barbara: Correct. 347 00:43:25.350 --> 00:43:31.550 Jean Kapusnick: There right? Because at some point there was a discussion about having that connection at the intersection. 348 00:43:31.934 --> 00:43:37.450 Jean Kapusnick: At other times it was well, why don't we just formalize that connection that's already there? 349 00:43:37.540 --> 00:44:05.239 Jean Kapusnick: We looked at both, and fully engineered both to see how this would go, and we have cost estimates and everything for this, because there's a big difference in effort, huge way, bigger than it even looks on paper. When it comes to the permitting, you would need the impacts, the sheer amount of concrete you would need in order to have this at the crossing. At that intersection we need retaining walls. 350 00:44:05.250 --> 00:44:32.220 Jean Kapusnick: We're going to be on Hoa property that would need all kinds of approvals from them, and trees were to be lost. It's a big deal, but we wanted to really not just judge that, you know, by thinking about it. We wanted to look at it and say, Is this, how would this work? And in order to make that accessible for everyone which we, of course, would and have to do. It is a it's a big commitment there to put in retaining walls and ramps and. 351 00:44:32.220 --> 00:44:32.950 Barbara: And thanks. 352 00:44:32.950 --> 00:44:39.510 Jean Kapusnick: It doesn't look it when you're just out there. But the terrain is really, it's just that steep hill, and it's just the wrong angle. 353 00:44:39.520 --> 00:44:48.740 Jean Kapusnick: and so it was really hard to get that to fit the other one, on the other hand, is is a piece of cake, and there is saw already sidewalk. There. 354 00:44:48.740 --> 00:44:49.100 Barbara: Right. 355 00:44:49.120 --> 00:45:06.120 Jean Kapusnick: Not creating something to know where it does connect. Just fine. We talked about maybe putting a crosswalk there. I don't even know if we'd want to do that just it's just enough to get people on wheels of any type through there without having to go through the woods on on the dirt that's there now. 356 00:45:06.120 --> 00:45:06.490 Barbara: Sure. 357 00:45:06.490 --> 00:45:10.419 Jean Kapusnick: That'll come up at the planning board, and certainly you guys can weigh in on that as well. 358 00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:28.150 Barbara: Yeah. But I guess what I wanted to know is like, how many discussions have you had with the community? Because I personally like don't really know. I mean, I would think that they would be in favor of it, because so many people from that community use that shorter path. But I just didn't know any more details beyond that. 359 00:45:28.150 --> 00:45:32.989 Jean Kapusnick: We have not had any public meetings, as you all know, or you've been invited to them, too. 360 00:45:33.490 --> 00:45:43.059 Jean Kapusnick: We have not done that yet in order to keep this thing rolling and get checking off the milestones that we need. Some of these things are gonna have to just 361 00:45:43.060 --> 00:46:08.219 Jean Kapusnick: be kind of shifted around a bit. Once we get through this, I think we should have another public meeting for this project. There were some already, and so we've sort of met our commitment for that. But it's been a while, and we have much more detail now. So somewhere in here, we're gonna want to reach out to everyone and make sure that they're that. We don't hear any opposition to that connection either, though I can't imagine from everything I've heard. 362 00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:10.460 Jean Kapusnick: it does seem like it makes a lot of sense. 363 00:46:10.460 --> 00:46:11.689 Barbara: And right. 364 00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:20.610 Jean Kapusnick: I would hope there'd be none. But yeah, again, it's hard to tell. People move and new people come in in that timeframe, and you might hear someone who's not in favor of it. 365 00:46:21.140 --> 00:46:24.215 Jean Kapusnick: Currently, it looks like it's being used already. 366 00:46:24.600 --> 00:46:26.940 Barbara: It is. It's very heavily used. It's very. 367 00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:27.440 Jean Kapusnick: Another thing. 368 00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:31.080 Jean Kapusnick: It's not like. It's we're connect can making a new connection. 369 00:46:31.080 --> 00:46:31.860 Barbara: Exactly. 370 00:46:31.860 --> 00:46:32.640 Jean Kapusnick: People, right. 371 00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:32.990 Barbara: Great. 372 00:46:33.242 --> 00:46:42.819 Jean Kapusnick: But yeah, hopefully, you all would be in favor of having a meeting like that at some point. Maybe we can work with you to schedule it in your town, or or somewhere nearby, and and have that. 373 00:46:43.100 --> 00:46:43.580 Barbara: For again. 374 00:46:43.580 --> 00:46:44.099 Peter Nagrod: See you, then. 375 00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:50.360 Barbara: Thank you for all your thank you for all you're you're doing on this. I know it's been a long haul and a lot of work. So thank you. 376 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:51.989 Jean Kapusnick: Oh, thanks, Barbara! Appreciate! 377 00:46:52.317 --> 00:46:58.530 Peter Nagrod: John, I have a comment or question. So, Jean? Quick question. Which might be a little embarrassing 378 00:46:58.680 --> 00:47:07.220 Peter Nagrod: you. You said that you use the phrase, we're on track. And I'm just. It's so. This I know. This is incredibly complex project. 379 00:47:07.630 --> 00:47:17.849 Peter Nagrod: I don't know why, but it is. And when. So you you say you're on track, is there? So does it on track means that there's a master plan, and is there if you're on track, if 380 00:47:17.990 --> 00:47:21.350 Peter Nagrod: world, if you're on track, what's the completion date 381 00:47:21.430 --> 00:47:24.120 Peter Nagrod: about like? What? What are we looking at here? 382 00:47:24.470 --> 00:47:27.219 Jean Kapusnick: I think what I meant by on track was that we are. 383 00:47:27.220 --> 00:47:27.560 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 384 00:47:27.560 --> 00:47:31.510 Jean Kapusnick: The boxes and completing everything we need to do, which is a good. 385 00:47:31.510 --> 00:47:32.020 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 386 00:47:32.020 --> 00:47:51.540 Jean Kapusnick: It may not seem it, but after years of sort of hemming and hawing, and going back and forth, and sort of getting going, and then stopping. This is on a roll. Now we're moving. It is so hard in this field anymore to predict some of the things that happen on these projects. I'm going to be honest with you, and. 387 00:47:51.540 --> 00:48:08.380 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, very clear. But you very aware of that. We also dealt county. We understand it. But in your so- so just guesstimate in your mind in a perfect world. When when do you think that like this might be completed? Just just? I would just just guess. 388 00:48:08.380 --> 00:48:09.090 Jean Kapusnick: I think it's. 389 00:48:09.090 --> 00:48:10.350 Peter Nagrod: I'll help you to it. 390 00:48:10.350 --> 00:48:21.870 Jean Kapusnick: I think I think I've talked to people about this briefly, that it's probably a 6 month construction period or so. I would say we would start this in about 2 years. 391 00:48:22.110 --> 00:48:31.470 Jean Kapusnick: That sounds like a long time. And but I'm I'm hopeful that we could do that. I need to. There's permits involved with. There are wetlands 392 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:38.330 Jean Kapusnick: that will have to go through that that permitting, we'll certainly work on the design. All we can, you know, as. 393 00:48:38.330 --> 00:48:40.350 Peter Nagrod: No, okay. So I have time to put in 394 00:48:40.550 --> 00:48:41.470 Peter Nagrod: fires. 395 00:48:41.740 --> 00:48:42.949 Jean Kapusnick: Sorry you broke up. 396 00:48:43.213 --> 00:48:46.640 Peter Nagrod: I have time. I have time to put air in my bicycle tires. 397 00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:49.720 John Compton: Now you have time to learn how to ride a bike. 398 00:48:49.720 --> 00:48:54.649 Peter Nagrod: I just wanna I just want to be alive when it when it when it opens. That's all. That's all I'm shooting for. 399 00:48:54.750 --> 00:49:05.000 Jean Kapusnick: This is a good opportunity to bring up something that I need to talk with all of you about, because none of the other things we need is is we're gonna need your legal permission to build this trail on your. 400 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:06.409 John Compton: Property didn't works. 401 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:29.919 Jean Kapusnick: So we will have to, and that is something we could get started much sooner than we may not have all the paperwork in place, but we might want to get that started so that everybody's sure they know what to do with that. The other thing I'm starting now, literally hopefully, tomorrow is these plans that can go now to the Wssc. There is a sanitary sewer line through that area that we're going to be on top of. 402 00:49:30.120 --> 00:49:51.409 Jean Kapusnick: We're pretty sure and talking to them here and there about this, that they're not going to have too much problems with the fact that we're going to be over this. What they worry about is they have. If there's something that they would have to replace, that would be very, very costly, they won't do it, they'll put asphalt back. So we might be okay. There, we do have one manhole we need to adjust. And so that needs to be fully 403 00:49:51.460 --> 00:50:03.569 Jean Kapusnick: vetted with them how that's going to be done? So that process could get started. Now, I guess when I say on track is like we're we're we're doing all the work to to get this to construction. 404 00:50:03.730 --> 00:50:06.479 Jean Kapusnick: But those are the things that will be out of our, not 405 00:50:06.520 --> 00:50:11.409 Jean Kapusnick: completely out of our control, but are things that are going to require other people's input into the process? Are they. 406 00:50:11.410 --> 00:50:13.980 Peter Nagrod: Thank you. I'm happy. I'm happy and satisfied. Thank you. 407 00:50:13.980 --> 00:50:18.749 Jean Kapusnick: Oh, good, thank you, Peter. I heard someone sigh at the beginning of this. This might have been. 408 00:50:19.407 --> 00:50:20.722 Peter Nagrod: Wasn't me. 409 00:50:21.730 --> 00:50:28.589 John Compton: Okay, I I do have a question, a more immediate immediate action. Question. 410 00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:47.639 John Compton: we. I'm glad that we we have the plan. And when the when when you're able to schedule the mandatory referral I I would, I think, as a town from my point of view, I. And I believe that the committee we have 411 00:50:48.580 --> 00:51:03.159 John Compton: sort of looking at this keeping a eye on it would very much appreciate being able to speak and to to you, after we see the the materials that you're going to provide. The planning board. 412 00:51:03.520 --> 00:51:09.109 John Compton: That if we have any concerns, I I would hate to bring it up. Look 413 00:51:09.150 --> 00:51:16.210 John Compton: I I we have no problem. Speaking in opposition to things in front of the planning board. We have a 414 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:22.840 John Compton: long history of that and a pretty successful history, usually because we try and only complain about things that 415 00:51:22.910 --> 00:51:50.949 John Compton: are reasonable, so we don't want to do that. In this case we want to go in in full support and not so we, if if we have any concerns or issues, we'd like to be able to talk to you in advance. And as you, as we did in front of the the Committee of the County Council Committee. We'd like to come in there being more or less an agreement if there were any any variations that we might think up that you had not 416 00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:52.960 John Compton: recognized. Yeah. 417 00:51:52.960 --> 00:52:06.030 Jean Kapusnick: That's I appreciate that, and thank you. And the plans that I have distributed to you now are the plans we will be sending to the planning board. The only documents you don't have are related to the tree exemption. 418 00:52:06.650 --> 00:52:20.680 Jean Kapusnick: And so that will be the same plans. It'll just show trees and things like that, and I can certainly share those with you as soon as I have them back and approved. I don't want to share them till they are, they get stamped, and then we'll all know we're looking at the same version. 419 00:52:20.937 --> 00:52:43.970 Jean Kapusnick: But these are the plans that will be sent there. And so, yeah, absolutely. And like, I said, if you want to have another meeting another time, invite people to to talk about that, or if I come out and meet with you. If you'd like a person, would be easier, whatever to look at those plans and see what's there. Let me know. I think you guys have seen them before. You're savvy, you? You know what you're what you're looking at. But if there's anything I can help with, let me let me know. 420 00:52:44.110 --> 00:52:44.680 Jean Kapusnick: Yeah. 421 00:52:44.680 --> 00:52:46.809 John Compton: Okay, that's great. Thank you. 422 00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:55.860 John Compton: And thank you very much for this. And now I think everybody's pretty well informed. We we, as you know we're recording this session. We now 423 00:52:55.970 --> 00:53:02.544 John Compton: provide recordings of these meetings. As as part of the the minutes 424 00:53:03.060 --> 00:53:08.380 John Compton: minutes. So so people who want to find out and hear it themselves, will be able to thank you, Gene. 425 00:53:08.380 --> 00:53:13.350 Jean Kapusnick: That's great. No thanks, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I think this was a great conversation. Thank you. 426 00:53:13.560 --> 00:53:15.570 John Compton: Alright, then, good 427 00:53:16.490 --> 00:53:29.929 John Compton: alrighty! We will move. Then on to our one of the new business items. Which is is on the agenda, and that's the proposal. 428 00:53:30.648 --> 00:53:34.060 John Compton: To republish the Grove Gatherings book 429 00:53:34.070 --> 00:53:53.400 John Compton: that many of you, if not all, are familiar with. That was written by Rosalie Chance, a former resident of the of the town and in. I think it was 1975 and I think the Women Women's club 430 00:53:53.890 --> 00:54:17.829 John Compton: published it or sponsored it, or in any way was connected with its. It's the creation of that book. And because there are so few copies, and it's not. It's very hard to become available. Some of the town residents and point the finger at Meredith became concerned that that we not lose 431 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:37.319 John Compton: this book from our history. So Meredith is here with the proposal, and Phil Edwards is here as well as you know. He's written, you know, a very, very important 2 volume history of the town up to 50 years ago. Now, Phil. 432 00:54:37.470 --> 00:54:39.749 John Compton: I really wish you'd do something about that. 433 00:54:40.976 --> 00:54:50.469 John Compton: But you know how much work it was. Yeah, so Meredith is going to give a little bit of tell what? What what they have in mind. So 434 00:54:50.890 --> 00:54:51.380 John Compton: go ahead. 435 00:54:51.380 --> 00:54:59.059 horan: There were originally a thousand copies produced of Grove gatherings back in 19 436 00:54:59.310 --> 00:55:06.369 horan: 75, and Rosalie has passed away flipper winter has the 437 00:55:06.670 --> 00:55:09.769 horan: I guess, closest family member to 438 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:14.499 horan: keep the information about it and really 439 00:55:14.900 --> 00:55:16.750 horan: hold the book 440 00:55:17.140 --> 00:55:19.596 horan: in his family's name. 441 00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:36.289 horan: We thought that it would be good to have a digital copy available. There are copies, a few couple cartons in the Women's Club now. It's a folksy book. It's different than Phil's history. 442 00:55:36.892 --> 00:55:39.219 horan: Has some good photographs. 443 00:55:39.390 --> 00:55:50.159 horan: but we thought we could have some additional things that would help. It's missing an index. So we put together an index. Phil has it in the back. 444 00:55:50.300 --> 00:55:52.849 horan: We also here's a copy 445 00:55:53.258 --> 00:56:01.609 horan: the previous one was blank in the back. So we added a picture of Rosalie at her book, signing a little bit about her. 446 00:56:02.850 --> 00:56:05.830 horan: A small introduction 447 00:56:07.426 --> 00:56:11.793 horan: the typeface is a little bit lighter than 448 00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:28.029 horan: We'd like, but it's primarily an online version it'll be available from Amazon at the price we choose. We thought $25. But we expect that probably more people will get it online. 449 00:56:28.690 --> 00:56:35.649 horan: So Phil's going to tell you a little bit about what, he added. There were some mistakes that were corrected in the text. 450 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:44.960 horan: and there was some thought given about maybe listing the names of all the cottages that we knew. But we left that out. But it's 451 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:53.209 horan: finished. So if you want to see a digital copy. We can make that available to you. But Phil, you wanna finish. 452 00:56:53.210 --> 00:57:00.639 Peter Nagrod: Excuse me so so Meredith, are you just? Is this just informational? Or are you asking the town to do something. 453 00:57:01.110 --> 00:57:01.820 John Compton: Yes. 454 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:08.680 horan: Of, of course. Yeah, the Women's Club has declined to republish this. 455 00:57:09.160 --> 00:57:10.340 horan: and 456 00:57:10.870 --> 00:57:12.579 horan: we would like the town to 457 00:57:12.610 --> 00:57:18.350 horan: publish it if the town doesn't feel comfortable doing that. We're going to do it as a small group. 458 00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:19.505 horan: somehow. 459 00:57:20.860 --> 00:57:23.988 horan: hopefully, with your blessing also. But 460 00:57:25.670 --> 00:57:27.229 horan: after Phil 461 00:57:28.550 --> 00:57:39.180 horan: has a few remarks. We can discuss it, and you can ask questions. You may have some about copyright or whatever. So Phil, go ahead and fill in. 462 00:57:44.520 --> 00:57:46.330 Peter Nagrod: Out. You're muted! 463 00:57:49.490 --> 00:57:50.490 Peter Nagrod: You did. 464 00:57:51.250 --> 00:57:52.519 John Compton: Bill, you're muted. 465 00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:03.949 Peter Nagrod: Here we go! 466 00:58:03.950 --> 00:58:06.109 Philip Edwards: Okay. So I'm here. 467 00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:08.090 John Compton: Yeah. 468 00:58:09.006 --> 00:58:09.998 Philip Edwards: Okay, so 469 00:58:11.260 --> 00:58:18.015 Philip Edwards: I reread Rosalie's book over the winter. I was astounded at 470 00:58:18.680 --> 00:58:26.110 Philip Edwards: how much information there is there, and how valuable it is. I hadn't read it since 1975 or 6. 471 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:30.690 Philip Edwards: Yeah, it was just amazing. And 472 00:58:31.640 --> 00:58:36.112 Philip Edwards: the germ of the idea of digitizing. It was already, 473 00:58:36.570 --> 00:59:04.217 Philip Edwards: you know, established at the 150.th So over the winter I undertook to digitize the text and do the Ocr. To digitize the photographs, and of course they're they're terrible in the in the public, in the publication from 75. But with Alan Janice's help they are better than they were originally 474 00:59:05.050 --> 00:59:15.540 Philip Edwards: the only, of course, after Ocr there had to be. There were a lot of typos, and of course there were typos in the original. 475 00:59:16.428 --> 00:59:25.561 Philip Edwards: So the only changes that I made in the course of digitizing and 476 00:59:27.020 --> 00:59:33.280 Philip Edwards: and getting it into printable form were to correct misspellings 477 00:59:33.690 --> 00:59:43.992 Philip Edwards: with a special focus on names if names were misspelled. I did the research necessary to make sure we got them right. 478 00:59:44.740 --> 00:59:46.326 Philip Edwards: so typos 479 00:59:47.890 --> 00:59:49.590 Philip Edwards: tiny bit of grammar 480 00:59:50.151 --> 01:00:07.449 Philip Edwards: and of course the font. The original font wasn't available, so we had to choose from what was available. We were able to keep the pagination the same. So if somebody says, Hey, look at page 77 in the original, it'll 481 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:10.160 Philip Edwards: be on page 77 in the 482 01:00:10.270 --> 01:00:13.878 Philip Edwards: copy the only additions. 483 01:00:14.640 --> 01:00:18.340 Philip Edwards: that I made were a short notes 484 01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:22.720 Philip Edwards: which we can share with you. Notes on the second edition. 485 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:43.918 Philip Edwards: the addition of an index, and on the photographs there were many of them without captions so I've added captions where they're missing, and I've added information on additional information for clarification on some of the others. 486 01:00:44.970 --> 01:00:50.620 Philip Edwards: Everywhere I made any change. My changes in square brackets 487 01:00:50.690 --> 01:01:05.409 Philip Edwards: and the there are no subtractions from the original, so all the original information is there throughout the book and including on the captions. So what we're asking tonight is. 488 01:01:05.420 --> 01:01:07.830 Philip Edwards: would the town 489 01:01:08.140 --> 01:01:09.889 Philip Edwards: like to be the publisher? 490 01:01:09.940 --> 01:01:19.410 Philip Edwards: So what's that mean. It means that on the copyright page it'll say published by the town of Washington Grove, Maryland, or, however, you want to phrase it. 491 01:01:20.030 --> 01:01:24.960 Philip Edwards: what it means to the town is you own it then. 492 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:40.185 Philip Edwards: Now you don't own Rosalie's work. That's public domain. Anybody can monkey around with that, anyway, once. But you would own this production, this second edition 493 01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:46.167 Philip Edwards: and you would be able to do what you would with it. 494 01:01:47.120 --> 01:01:59.290 Philip Edwards: I used Kdp kindle direct publishing to do the formatting so that it could be available in print. And so it's ready to go 495 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:00.980 Philip Edwards: as is 496 01:02:02.270 --> 01:02:18.550 Philip Edwards: with a push of a button in both a print edition and a an ebook edition which is virtually like the print edition. But you know, on your screen cost to the town is 0 497 01:02:19.250 --> 01:02:27.570 Philip Edwards: 0 now and forever, unless the town wanted to. Have to stockpile 498 01:02:27.974 --> 01:02:37.190 Philip Edwards: actual copies to sell or give away in which case you'd have to pay the printing cost, which is like $2 and 499 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:41.129 Philip Edwards: 67 cents as of yesterday. 500 01:02:41.646 --> 01:02:45.614 Philip Edwards: So yeah, we could take care of that. 501 01:02:46.340 --> 01:02:55.894 Philip Edwards: So if you decide, yes, yeah, the town's gonna publish this, then you own it. I transfer all the files to you 502 01:02:56.390 --> 01:03:06.290 Philip Edwards: any royalties that come in from Amazon, or it's not just Amazon. It's Amazon and other distributors. 503 01:03:06.718 --> 01:03:10.389 Philip Edwards: Any royalties that come in belong to the town 504 01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:22.560 Philip Edwards: and, as far as the price goes, the $25 is totally arbitrary. I put $25 on the print copy and $10 on the ebook 505 01:03:22.910 --> 01:03:31.160 Philip Edwards: totally arbitrary. You could make it $900, and of course, that way you could sell them yourself for 800 506 01:03:31.925 --> 01:03:53.624 Philip Edwards: or you could actually calculate what the 0 royalty price would be. Now, of course, Amazon gets something out of it, Amazon or the other distributors, so it wouldn't be $2 and 67 cents on Amazon, but it might be around, you know. $8 and 26 cents. 507 01:03:54.678 --> 01:03:59.169 Philip Edwards: would be the Amazon price, and then there'd be 0 royalty. 508 01:03:59.500 --> 01:04:15.320 Philip Edwards: So anyway, that's the question on the table. Does the town want to be the publisher? And if the town does not want to be the publisher. Does the town have any admonitions or advice 509 01:04:15.490 --> 01:04:17.030 Philip Edwards: to give 510 01:04:17.090 --> 01:04:20.299 Philip Edwards: before a private group of 511 01:04:20.310 --> 01:04:25.600 Philip Edwards: of residents or former residents publish it on their own. 512 01:04:25.770 --> 01:04:26.520 Philip Edwards: Thank you. 513 01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:28.810 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 514 01:04:30.450 --> 01:04:31.185 John Compton: Okay, 515 01:04:32.970 --> 01:04:39.930 John Compton: we can open it up to questions. I have a proposal to the Council as to how to proceed with this. 516 01:04:41.420 --> 01:04:43.719 John Compton: unless there's an objection 517 01:04:43.870 --> 01:04:45.429 John Compton: to considering 518 01:04:47.110 --> 01:04:57.550 John Compton: publishing it in the name of the town. And you know, without going into the arguments as to what the the pros and cons of that 519 01:04:57.860 --> 01:04:58.840 John Compton: or 520 01:04:59.527 --> 01:05:03.900 John Compton: I would recommend, since none of us have likely read it. 521 01:05:04.651 --> 01:05:12.660 John Compton: that the 1st thing that we do before deciding is read the book. So to provide at least a 1 month. 522 01:05:12.810 --> 01:05:17.569 John Compton: You know a future meeting to take this up giving all of us. 523 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:22.798 John Compton: and I freely admit I've only read a few parts of the book. 524 01:05:23.410 --> 01:05:30.230 John Compton: to read read it. We we would read, obviously the electronic version that has been put together. 525 01:05:30.370 --> 01:05:34.770 John Compton: and then, and then take the matter up again. 526 01:05:34.830 --> 01:05:41.399 John Compton: As to know so at least we'll know what we're not. We are or are not publishing 527 01:05:43.460 --> 01:05:46.979 John Compton: so that's my recommendation to the Council. 528 01:05:47.860 --> 01:05:53.620 John Compton: Paul, I see your hand, but there's no there's no mechanism for you to make any input tonight. 529 01:05:53.890 --> 01:05:58.690 John Compton: unless the Council chooses to do so, which I don't believe I wouldn't recommend. 530 01:05:59.310 --> 01:06:05.170 John Compton: So I, the Council can now ask questions, or 531 01:06:05.430 --> 01:06:06.640 John Compton: propose 532 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:09.729 John Compton: to formally do whatever you would like to do. 533 01:06:11.660 --> 01:06:12.670 John Compton: Mary. 534 01:06:12.670 --> 01:06:18.510 marywarfield: I'm I'm just curious why the Women's Club does not want to take on this project. 535 01:06:18.870 --> 01:06:20.689 marywarfield: If there's no cost to it. 536 01:06:24.545 --> 01:06:25.140 John Compton: Meredith. 537 01:06:25.140 --> 01:06:38.140 horan: I? I asked that question, and the Executive Board declined with no particular reason, so I can't pass along the reason to you. I have assumptions, but they have no reason that they gave me. 538 01:06:39.730 --> 01:06:41.310 John Compton: Okay. Anybody else. 539 01:06:41.310 --> 01:06:43.899 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's just oh, sorry, Barbara. You were first.st 540 01:06:43.900 --> 01:06:52.700 Barbara: Oh, I just has do. We has the town published other books, I mean it, doesn't I? Just look at you know we didn't. 541 01:06:53.120 --> 01:06:56.919 Barbara: We didn't publish Phil's book, and that's really like the classic book 542 01:06:57.040 --> 01:07:01.539 Barbara: I mean, is this something that we have gotten into as a town before. 543 01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:07.700 John Compton: I'm unaware of any any circumstance. 544 01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:13.379 Peter Nagrod: And and the other. The other consideration is 545 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:32.531 Peter Nagrod: because I know Paula wanted to bring this up is about the whole real effort to look at the past and to me. The town publishing this, I think Barbara's my 1st question would be, why are we going to the publishing business which I think Barbara is asking because we haven't done it, but also 546 01:07:33.030 --> 01:07:44.760 Peter Nagrod: you know, this is opening up. I think a big can of worms as far with our citizens as far as what's in the book? And we can read the book. But it's just that's our, you know, we read there. 547 01:07:44.950 --> 01:07:49.779 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's it's it's it's been around for a long time. A lot of a lot of things have changed since then. 548 01:07:50.990 --> 01:08:02.770 Peter Nagrod: So it's like, we're endorsing everything that's in there, and I think it's great. But I think that, like Mary said that if the Women's club or somebody else does it, that would make a lot more sense to me than the town publishing this book. 549 01:08:03.020 --> 01:08:12.390 Peter Nagrod: and I don't know why we would put this off for a month and make everybody read the book when you know, I think we should have a vote by the Council and see if we want to do that. 550 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.920 Peter Nagrod: Sorry, Phil, it's a great book I read. The 1st couple of chapters 551 01:08:16.109 --> 01:08:17.679 Peter Nagrod: haven't finished it yet. 552 01:08:20.050 --> 01:08:21.869 John Compton: Anybody else on the Council 553 01:08:23.090 --> 01:08:24.910 John Compton: have any any 554 01:08:25.300 --> 01:08:34.720 John Compton: proposals? I mean, we've just heard the proposal, so we we don't have to act on. I mean, if we can. Simply, you know. Thank you very much. 555 01:08:35.265 --> 01:08:40.379 John Compton: For the opportunity. And what we don't even have to turn it down because 556 01:08:40.490 --> 01:08:42.619 John Compton: there's no motion on the floor 557 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.787 John Compton: at the moment. i i i will say, however, that 558 01:08:49.470 --> 01:08:53.550 John Compton: you know, if in the circumstance 559 01:08:54.640 --> 01:09:01.910 John Compton: well, let's just state it boldly. Her account is extremely valuable historical information concerning the town. 560 01:09:02.010 --> 01:09:10.920 John Compton: It differs fairly, significantly from Phil's books, because it's a personal account. It's not a researched. 561 01:09:11.140 --> 01:09:12.388 John Compton: you know. 562 01:09:15.121 --> 01:09:23.539 John Compton: telling with references. As to where you know original sources and all of that 563 01:09:24.008 --> 01:09:30.551 John Compton: so it's a call. You might call it a memoir with this particular particular subject, 564 01:09:31.250 --> 01:09:38.090 John Compton: and for the for for the town. Those are valuable that I mean we. We can only wish we had more of them. 565 01:09:38.410 --> 01:09:41.749 John Compton: you know. It's like people's letters and stuff like that. 566 01:09:42.158 --> 01:09:53.510 John Compton: So to lose it in in any way. For example, to rely on print copies when there would be, you know we would we? We should think about that. 567 01:09:53.609 --> 01:09:56.650 John Compton: I mean, would we really want to lose this? 568 01:09:56.830 --> 01:10:02.039 John Compton: And you know. Perhaps the perhaps the Historic Preservation Commission could weigh in on it. 569 01:10:03.370 --> 01:10:04.670 John Compton: the so. 570 01:10:04.870 --> 01:10:07.709 John Compton: if we were confident it would be published 571 01:10:08.260 --> 01:10:10.799 John Compton: without our participation. 572 01:10:11.690 --> 01:10:14.223 John Compton: Perhaps that would be sufficient. 573 01:10:15.521 --> 01:10:20.340 John Compton: without getting into the argument as to whether the you know normally. 574 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.420 John Compton: publishers of books are not held responsible for their content 575 01:10:25.740 --> 01:10:33.720 John Compton: just because you choose to publish a book doesn't mean you are are approving 576 01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:36.360 John Compton: of what has been written. 577 01:10:36.870 --> 01:10:52.360 John Compton: So I would suggest that the that if if that's what you're thinking. That the town, by publishing it somehow is is is approving of what was written there. That's I don't think it's 578 01:10:52.590 --> 01:11:07.940 John Compton: in in most publishing situations is the case, whether by association you might argue, maybe maybe there's something to that argument. Well, we're associated with it because we put our publication, we we we 579 01:11:08.250 --> 01:11:09.729 John Compton: we're the publisher. 580 01:11:11.170 --> 01:11:11.650 John Compton: But 581 01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:16.150 Robert Gilmore: John John. Publishers get sued for defamation 582 01:11:16.300 --> 01:11:19.690 Robert Gilmore: all the time. They're the natural targets because they have the money. 583 01:11:20.443 --> 01:11:27.310 Robert Gilmore: Now, I don't know that we? So if if that's what you're suggesting that we wouldn't have 584 01:11:28.610 --> 01:11:32.710 Robert Gilmore: we wouldn't be sort of held responsible for what's in the book that's just not 585 01:11:32.820 --> 01:11:33.750 Robert Gilmore: accurate. 586 01:11:34.250 --> 01:11:41.430 John Compton: Rob, I don't believe you. I mean you can be sued for anything, but I don't believe the town could be held responsible legally. 587 01:11:42.030 --> 01:11:45.440 John Compton: In other words, it would be a waste of somebody's time 588 01:11:45.510 --> 01:11:56.790 John Compton: to hold the town responsible for a book that's been in that's been around for 50 years, and is simply being produced in a different form. 589 01:11:57.550 --> 01:11:59.169 Robert Gilmore: I mean whether there's. 590 01:11:59.170 --> 01:12:02.009 John Compton: I don't I? I'm not a lawyer, but that all sounds. 591 01:12:02.280 --> 01:12:05.529 Robert Gilmore: Know I I and I am a lawyer. That's why I'm just 592 01:12:06.510 --> 01:12:07.720 Robert Gilmore: expecting him. A 593 01:12:08.250 --> 01:12:25.600 Robert Gilmore: I perhaps you had something different in mind. But I just if you're suggesting that if the concern is, there's something that's false, and someone who thinks that something in the book is false would sue for defamation. The publisher, and if that would be us which it sounds like is the proposal. 594 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:38.590 Robert Gilmore: Publishers are the ones who get sued for defamation. In addition to the authors. The publishers get sued because they're the ones with the money. So and we don't have sovereign immunity, for as a municipality for that. 595 01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:49.490 Robert Gilmore: So you know. Look whether there's any merit to that, whether there's a likelihood. Those are completely different questions. But the idea that the publisher of a book isn't liable for what's in the content just is not 596 01:12:49.710 --> 01:12:50.460 Robert Gilmore: true. 597 01:12:51.050 --> 01:13:14.249 Barbara: I would like to make a point of order, which is that we are actually discussing a motion, even though there is no motion on the floor. We are discussing, discussing a fantasy note motion that we should publish this. Now, if we're not. If we're not going to just have a motion. Then I suggest that we move on. If we are going to have a motion, somebody needs to make it. 598 01:13:15.490 --> 01:13:20.359 Robert Gilmore: It's an excellent point. I'll rephrase my prior comment as a I think point of information. 599 01:13:20.900 --> 01:13:21.570 Robert Gilmore: but 600 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:24.070 Robert Gilmore: is a well taken point. 601 01:13:24.240 --> 01:13:32.920 Eva Langston: I'll agree with Barbara that if a council member wants to bring this up as a motion, then they can do it, and then we can vote on it. 602 01:13:33.660 --> 01:13:36.000 Eva Langston: yeah, that's all. That's all. I'll say. 603 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:43.419 John Compton: Okay, I'll take that as a proposal that the we we finish with this 604 01:13:44.078 --> 01:13:47.300 John Compton: item and move on to the next without action. 605 01:13:47.540 --> 01:13:49.479 John Compton: any opposition to that. 606 01:13:49.480 --> 01:13:50.310 Peter Nagrod: No. 607 01:13:51.310 --> 01:13:58.079 John Compton: Okay. In that case, that's where we're going. So thank you. Meredith. And and of course, Phil. 608 01:13:58.160 --> 01:14:01.979 John Compton: or your presentation and all. 609 01:14:01.980 --> 01:14:02.670 Philip Edwards: Thank you. 610 01:14:03.580 --> 01:14:14.630 John Compton: All right on to one of the important things we need to do tonight, and that is the stormwater infrastructure maintenance contract. Award. 611 01:14:16.040 --> 01:14:23.189 John Compton: They've they've discussed this somewhat at length, in September. 612 01:14:23.300 --> 01:14:25.227 John Compton: in September, the 613 01:14:25.980 --> 01:14:32.129 John Compton: the you you heard from the what I'm calling the Rfp. Group. 614 01:14:32.260 --> 01:14:36.962 John Compton: who the the small number of individuals who 615 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:40.949 John Compton: the town and I relied on 616 01:14:41.030 --> 01:14:44.459 John Compton: to work up the Rfp 617 01:14:44.490 --> 01:15:01.609 John Compton: interact with the respondents and potential respondents. And now to look at the 2 bidders to assist the Council in awarding this contract, and it was left from last meeting 618 01:15:01.740 --> 01:15:12.639 John Compton: that the the Rfp. Group would report back on the references that look into the references for both companies. 619 01:15:12.690 --> 01:15:24.559 John Compton: and also hopefully, having assembled all the information that we would normally require for a contract, make their recommendation to the Council. 620 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.970 John Compton: So I'm going to turn it over to whoever I believe it's Patty 621 01:15:29.586 --> 01:15:32.420 John Compton: who has provided a report 622 01:15:32.510 --> 01:15:38.170 John Compton: of their reference. The examination of the references, as well as 623 01:15:38.190 --> 01:15:43.210 John Compton: reviewed the criteria that we had in the Rfp. For making the award 624 01:15:43.370 --> 01:15:44.350 John Compton: and 625 01:15:45.860 --> 01:15:53.210 John Compton: at the end of that as well as a financial. There's a separate document which does, which which lays out the financial comparison 626 01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:57.379 John Compton: from from the 2 bidders 627 01:15:57.846 --> 01:16:01.959 John Compton: and then they do make a recommendation. So I'm going to give Patty 628 01:16:02.030 --> 01:16:09.740 John Compton: chance to inform the Council about this, and then we will move on to a discussion 629 01:16:09.850 --> 01:16:10.525 John Compton: of 630 01:16:11.460 --> 01:16:12.739 John Compton: awarded the contract. 631 01:16:13.340 --> 01:16:18.090 Peter Nagrod: Alright. We've we've all we've all received the report, and I assume we've all read the report. 632 01:16:18.280 --> 01:16:23.049 Peter Nagrod: and and there's a recommendation in there, so I'll I'm making the motion 633 01:16:23.210 --> 01:16:27.949 Peter Nagrod: to. I would like to make the motion that we award this contract to Smi. 634 01:16:29.510 --> 01:16:31.694 Eva Langston: Oh, second, oh, yeah. 635 01:16:32.240 --> 01:16:32.910 Barbara: I mean. 636 01:16:32.910 --> 01:16:40.840 John Compton: Okay, the the motion is on the floor. It is now open for discussion. 637 01:16:41.050 --> 01:16:43.740 John Compton: Is there any discussion of this 638 01:16:44.250 --> 01:16:45.100 John Compton: motion? 639 01:16:48.240 --> 01:16:48.850 John Compton: Nope? 640 01:16:48.850 --> 01:16:52.579 Barbara: Peter, I suggest Peter goes first, st since he's the one who made the motion. 641 01:16:54.050 --> 01:16:57.670 John Compton: You're you're asking him for why he's making the motion, or why he. 642 01:16:57.670 --> 01:17:02.479 Barbara: Just normally, the person who makes the motion goes 1st and and gives their reasons why. 643 01:17:02.480 --> 01:17:05.729 John Compton: I was afraid nobody wanted to discuss it. I mean, you know. 644 01:17:05.730 --> 01:17:29.429 Peter Nagrod: Oh, well, I don't want to discuss it, because I think we've discussed this thing to death. It's just to me it's Smi is by far the best choice for the grove. I've talked to. Quite a few people, especially people. I'm looking at Steve words right now, and and Patty, who I have a lot of respect for, especially in this area here, and I am 100 confident that we should go with Smi. 645 01:17:30.570 --> 01:17:34.190 Peter Nagrod: I don't wanna see design. I want to see, build, and I want to get it done. Now. 646 01:17:34.370 --> 01:17:35.150 Barbara: Okay. 647 01:17:36.860 --> 01:17:42.739 John Compton: Okay, thank you. Anyone else wish to contribute to the discussion press. 648 01:17:43.620 --> 01:17:47.329 Kriss Grisham: So the question I have is, if we if we vote 649 01:17:47.360 --> 01:17:48.889 Kriss Grisham: to award a contract. 650 01:17:49.602 --> 01:17:55.079 Kriss Grisham: then do we go back and discuss how the contract is to be awarded? Or is that 651 01:17:55.550 --> 01:17:57.130 Kriss Grisham: taken care of? Offline. 652 01:17:58.320 --> 01:18:02.549 John Compton: Well, I'm glad you mentioned that. I think the motion 653 01:18:02.580 --> 01:18:03.760 John Compton: ought to. 654 01:18:04.100 --> 01:18:08.480 John Compton: If it doesn't imply, because of the special circumstances 655 01:18:08.570 --> 01:18:10.549 John Compton: of this design, build 656 01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:22.820 John Compton: the the Mo. I think we need to provide for. And I've talked about this before is we're going to kind of negotiate with the awardee 657 01:18:22.930 --> 01:18:27.189 John Compton: as to how the funds should be 658 01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:36.310 John Compton: expended in particular, divided up for for engineering, for design 659 01:18:36.410 --> 01:18:38.110 John Compton: versus construction. 660 01:18:38.260 --> 01:18:44.620 John Compton: We've talked about asking for, or a 30% design. 661 01:18:45.060 --> 01:18:45.930 John Compton: which. 662 01:18:46.330 --> 01:18:53.839 John Compton: to my understanding is is would would typically be 30% of the funds that were 663 01:18:54.010 --> 01:18:55.010 John Compton: bid 664 01:18:55.660 --> 01:18:57.353 John Compton: for design. 665 01:18:59.030 --> 01:19:06.960 John Compton: that might not strictly be true, and at which point we would then that would, of course, include cost estimates. 666 01:19:07.250 --> 01:19:09.880 John Compton: cost proposals which 667 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.290 John Compton: we would then 668 01:19:13.050 --> 01:19:13.980 John Compton: work 669 01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:16.770 John Compton: and decide which 670 01:19:16.830 --> 01:19:18.030 John Compton: propose 671 01:19:18.450 --> 01:19:22.569 John Compton: fit into our we which we want to approve. 672 01:19:22.970 --> 01:19:29.099 John Compton: So the in other words, there needs to be a negotiation as to how this contract is structured. 673 01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:33.079 John Compton: having said that. 674 01:19:33.230 --> 01:19:35.129 John Compton: I think Peter's 675 01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:40.869 John Compton: motion is pretty much on point, he is proposing we award the contract. 676 01:19:41.380 --> 01:19:51.440 John Compton: he! He to Smi! That's not the same as approving the contract, and I would like recommend that we come back to the Council to actually approve 677 01:19:51.660 --> 01:19:52.750 John Compton: the contract. 678 01:19:52.900 --> 01:19:54.250 John Compton: Normally. 679 01:19:54.260 --> 01:20:16.680 John Compton: the contract. You know we have a we we, you know, with a leaf contract, or whatever it's our standard contracts always the same. We add a few things we all agree on. That's there. We usually tell her everybody knows when we've added something. So it's a minor variation. But in this case we've never had a contract like this. So we we need to come back and ensure that we 680 01:20:16.820 --> 01:20:22.629 John Compton: we've done everything we ought to do. And so I would propose definitely. Once the contract is. 681 01:20:22.750 --> 01:20:26.879 John Compton: is, is almost finalized that the Council approves 682 01:20:27.020 --> 01:20:29.620 John Compton: the contract signing. 683 01:20:29.910 --> 01:20:33.379 John Compton: and I would certainly target the November meeting for that. 684 01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:39.809 John Compton: So does that answer your question. 685 01:20:39.810 --> 01:20:45.009 Kriss Grisham: Yes, it does. And so it's a 2 step process. We award contract, and then we come back, and and then we'll. 686 01:20:45.030 --> 01:20:46.150 John Compton: We approved. 687 01:20:46.150 --> 01:20:49.969 Kriss Grisham: Within the contract. Okay, no, that sounds good. Thank you. 688 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:51.909 John Compton: Yeah, because you'll note. 689 01:20:52.060 --> 01:20:55.369 John Compton: here's a We. We actually don't have an amount 690 01:20:56.150 --> 01:20:57.739 John Compton: in our Rfp. 691 01:20:58.280 --> 01:21:06.399 John Compton: They requested to know how much funds we actually had available. What we did say is, it was in this vicinity. 692 01:21:06.570 --> 01:21:13.899 John Compton: you know, that we had but but they requested to know that, because obviously want to know what our target was. 693 01:21:14.030 --> 01:21:18.880 John Compton: and we provided that. But the actual contract needs to have a number on it. 694 01:21:18.910 --> 01:21:25.979 John Compton: And it it it. You know, that number needs to be approved by the Council, so Bob has his hand up and. 695 01:21:26.740 --> 01:21:28.420 Robert Booher: Just a a minor point. 696 01:21:28.420 --> 01:21:36.319 John Compton: By the way, Bob's on the review. Come, group. So this is advice to the Council. I'm not just letting any old person contribute here 697 01:21:36.710 --> 01:21:37.950 John Compton: to the 698 01:21:38.120 --> 01:21:38.930 John Compton: discussion. 699 01:21:40.004 --> 01:21:51.989 Robert Booher: Yeah, I what what I think, what you said is all correct generally, though, the way this generally happens is, is you agree to to enter into negotiation with the the. 700 01:21:51.990 --> 01:21:52.970 John Compton: Fine. Thank you. 701 01:21:52.970 --> 01:21:54.250 Robert Booher: Elected party. 702 01:21:54.450 --> 01:21:57.709 Robert Booher: That's how it's generally so you're not really a 703 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.060 Robert Booher: awarding it because there's nothing to award yet. So. 704 01:22:01.460 --> 01:22:02.190 John Compton: Thank you. 705 01:22:02.190 --> 01:22:04.050 Robert Booher: It's just a terminology thing. 706 01:22:08.710 --> 01:22:14.649 John Compton: I think that was advice to reword the motion. Yeah, hey? Peter. 707 01:22:14.740 --> 01:22:19.910 John Compton: to approve entering in negotiation for a final contract with Smr. 708 01:22:25.030 --> 01:22:27.390 John Compton: And then we'll come back and approve the contract. 709 01:22:28.030 --> 01:22:30.159 John Compton: When we have a contract to approve. 710 01:22:31.095 --> 01:22:34.820 Robert Gilmore: John, what's our deadline for committing the funds 711 01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:35.980 Robert Gilmore: in the grant. 712 01:22:35.980 --> 01:22:37.280 John Compton: Number, 31.st 713 01:22:38.410 --> 01:22:40.620 Robert Gilmore: December 31st this year. Okay, yeah. 714 01:22:43.700 --> 01:22:46.870 John Compton: I think we're pretty well on track to to have that 715 01:22:47.040 --> 01:22:47.870 John Compton: accomplish. 716 01:22:53.300 --> 01:22:54.410 John Compton: Okay. 717 01:22:54.790 --> 01:22:57.920 John Compton: Patty has her hand up, but there's no question here. So. 718 01:22:58.270 --> 01:23:08.130 John Compton: Patty, this needs to be short and germane to what we're discussing, which is the motion to approve Smi and negotiating with Smi, go ahead. 719 01:23:08.490 --> 01:23:12.779 Patrice Klein: No, that's fine. Just bringing to your attention in the report some of the 720 01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:17.140 Patrice Klein: pieces of information that we learned in talking to the references. 721 01:23:17.180 --> 01:23:18.540 Patrice Klein: One person, 722 01:23:19.390 --> 01:23:23.039 Patrice Klein: Cecilia Lane, who is with Department of the environment. 723 01:23:23.460 --> 01:23:28.349 Patrice Klein: energy, and the environment for DC. Government, had noted that in her experience she 724 01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:31.410 Patrice Klein: actually tries to keep the engineering costs 725 01:23:31.863 --> 01:23:34.270 Patrice Klein: to 25% of the overall 726 01:23:34.490 --> 01:23:40.861 Patrice Klein: budget of the project. And in another reference, this was just helpful, because these are professional 727 01:23:41.430 --> 01:23:44.240 Patrice Klein: contract management folks. 728 01:23:44.360 --> 01:23:57.150 Patrice Klein: Construction management was to either obtain a bond or to use. Maybe Bob can talk more about this later about certain types of Aia contracts. So just 2 pieces of information for your further consideration. That's it. 729 01:24:00.790 --> 01:24:03.279 John Compton: Okay, any further discussion on 730 01:24:04.780 --> 01:24:08.950 John Compton: Peter. I assume you approve changing it to enter in negotiation. 731 01:24:08.950 --> 01:24:12.050 Peter Nagrod: Sorry I didn't know I was muted. Yes, I did. I concurred with you. 732 01:24:12.050 --> 01:24:12.620 John Compton: Thank you. 733 01:24:13.130 --> 01:24:15.329 John Compton: Any other discussion on this. 734 01:24:17.620 --> 01:24:18.390 Peter Nagrod: By the Council. 735 01:24:18.766 --> 01:24:28.170 John Compton: Has his his hand up. He's also on the Rfp. Group. So since we are, we are relying on advice from them. Let's let Dave 736 01:24:28.340 --> 01:24:29.410 John Compton: contribute here. 737 01:24:30.480 --> 01:24:32.638 Dave Cosson: Okay, just a very quick 738 01:24:33.220 --> 01:24:43.290 Dave Cosson: to help with Chris's comment. The the nature of the project is that there's interaction and changes throughout the the. 739 01:24:43.740 --> 01:24:44.699 Dave Cosson: And then they've 740 01:24:46.190 --> 01:24:51.059 Dave Cosson: right. We talk about whatever we want to build it as designed, and so on. So 741 01:24:51.080 --> 01:24:54.770 Dave Cosson: so there, there is more ongoing discussion. 742 01:24:57.820 --> 01:24:58.529 John Compton: Thank you. 743 01:25:00.530 --> 01:25:03.580 John Compton: Okay. Are we ready for a vote on the question? 744 01:25:04.270 --> 01:25:10.610 John Compton: All right. The the motion is to approve entering into negotiation with smi 745 01:25:11.654 --> 01:25:18.190 John Compton: for for a contract to do the stormwater infrastructure, maintenance work 746 01:25:18.860 --> 01:25:20.000 John Compton: all in favor. 747 01:25:20.940 --> 01:25:21.510 Peter Nagrod: Bye. 748 01:25:21.780 --> 01:25:22.870 John Compton: Any post. 749 01:25:23.860 --> 01:25:25.483 John Compton: Alright, thank you all. 750 01:25:25.890 --> 01:25:26.920 Peter Nagrod: Yay! 751 01:25:27.480 --> 01:25:30.480 John Compton: For getting very, very efficiently. 752 01:25:30.820 --> 01:25:58.040 John Compton: And so now the work I will contact. Sm, I'm just gonna tell you what's happening. Barbara's celebrating I've got to contact. Smi! I'm gonna rely obviously on a bunch of you to help out. And I think I'm gonna involve Jason Mills. I want to emphasize that the plan all along. 753 01:25:58.110 --> 01:25:59.450 John Compton: and I've repeated it 754 01:25:59.490 --> 01:26:01.930 John Compton: now, and I'm going to repeat it again 755 01:26:02.220 --> 01:26:06.800 John Compton: was with respect to the details, the technical 756 01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:12.880 John Compton: aspects of this. We have some. We you know, we have some people involved 757 01:26:12.890 --> 01:26:30.320 John Compton: who will have opinions. But I think we need to. We need to have a a town engineer, and I'm proposing that we hire Jason. Well, so specifically, Jason, to do that or whoever he suggests to do that 758 01:26:30.380 --> 01:26:33.399 John Compton: as we go along. It might be a different individual. 759 01:26:33.929 --> 01:26:38.960 John Compton: And we do it with a in a contract for for hourly work. 760 01:26:40.210 --> 01:26:45.379 John Compton: for under $5,000. Because we. I don't think we want to involve anyone else 761 01:26:45.460 --> 01:26:48.930 John Compton: in this in this oversight 762 01:26:49.080 --> 01:26:49.880 John Compton: role 763 01:26:50.140 --> 01:27:00.230 John Compton: to help us get ensure. We're we're getting what we think we're getting and and and all that. So that will come in November, probably as well to just approve 764 01:27:00.270 --> 01:27:01.880 John Compton: moving ahead with that. 765 01:27:03.070 --> 01:27:04.050 John Compton: okay. 766 01:27:05.170 --> 01:27:11.040 John Compton: all right. I think we're done with that. We'll move on to the next item of business. 767 01:27:12.400 --> 01:27:13.330 John Compton: Okay. 768 01:27:13.776 --> 01:27:20.019 John Compton: Hold on a second. I do not have something I should have had available. So just hold up 769 01:27:24.160 --> 01:27:25.239 John Compton: for a second. 770 01:27:26.210 --> 01:27:27.543 John Compton: I'm sorry. 771 01:27:33.490 --> 01:27:35.809 John Compton: alright. Apologize for that. 772 01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:40.960 John Compton: Okay, so the next item on the agenda is the Restoration plan for the Conservation meadow 773 01:27:41.390 --> 01:27:51.059 John Compton: and I in in moving to discussing the proposal 774 01:27:51.470 --> 01:27:56.460 John Compton: of the Meadow Committee. We don't actually have a motion yet. I don't think to approve it. 775 01:27:56.890 --> 01:28:00.463 John Compton: If we do, I've simply sorry I've forgotten it. 776 01:28:02.120 --> 01:28:09.590 John Compton: But I do want to make a statement which which I hope will will resonate with with the Council. 777 01:28:10.306 --> 01:28:13.429 John Compton: We've gotten a lot of resident letters. 778 01:28:13.610 --> 01:28:17.209 John Compton: and there's been a lot of individual discussions that 779 01:28:17.510 --> 01:28:19.740 John Compton: I have engaged in 780 01:28:20.583 --> 01:28:27.270 John Compton: and there's clearly confusion and uncertainty over why a Restoration plan has been proposed for the field 781 01:28:27.670 --> 01:28:32.240 John Compton: and concern over the changes that the plan that we have been shown 782 01:28:32.310 --> 01:28:41.489 John Compton: will mean to the field and the meadow, and and enough residents now seem to care as clearly the Council 783 01:28:42.110 --> 01:28:45.010 John Compton: cares in in making this decision. 784 01:28:45.100 --> 01:28:50.930 John Compton: but I think an informational meeting to address the various issues is warranted. 785 01:28:51.414 --> 01:28:55.860 John Compton: I propose that this be a special town council meeting. 786 01:28:56.921 --> 01:29:03.940 John Compton: That would be in for for strictly on the on the the Meadow Restoration 787 01:29:04.690 --> 01:29:05.640 John Compton: matter. 788 01:29:05.950 --> 01:29:13.639 John Compton: the meeting would include a review of the History of the Fields preservation. Why? Why is it not developed 789 01:29:14.130 --> 01:29:19.539 John Compton: the joint agreement to maintain and operate the field as a meadow could be reviewed. 790 01:29:19.740 --> 01:29:27.100 John Compton: Facts about what a meadow is, what the meadow. What? What the field looks like now? So that's the facts. 791 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.260 John Compton: And then the proposal, the Restoration proposal? 792 01:29:32.300 --> 01:29:34.833 John Compton: Why, Restoration? 793 01:29:36.556 --> 01:29:50.510 John Compton: has been proposed, and what the proposal is, so those would all be informational and be presentations. But the meeting would large would then largely be for having residents 794 01:29:52.096 --> 01:29:53.869 John Compton: make their 795 01:29:54.010 --> 01:30:02.350 John Compton: public appearance, their statements, or indeed, if multiple residents had something to present, they could present it. 796 01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:16.370 John Compton: and all of this would serve as a way of getting all of the information on the meadow, so that every together in one place, so that everybody learns the same things. Here's the same things 797 01:30:16.550 --> 01:30:19.310 John Compton: and has an opportunity to air their opinions. 798 01:30:20.495 --> 01:30:27.249 John Compton: Obviously, for the Council, because it's council meeting. The Council will hear the facts. We'll hear the opinions. 799 01:30:27.450 --> 01:30:29.430 John Compton: and that. 800 01:30:30.290 --> 01:30:32.750 John Compton: I suggest will be helpful. 801 01:30:32.780 --> 01:30:39.500 John Compton: so that you guys can make an informed decisions on how to proceed, whatever that might be, whether it's approval. 802 01:30:39.660 --> 01:30:45.565 John Compton: the Restoration plan, or whether it's something else to move forward on this. 803 01:30:46.604 --> 01:30:53.270 John Compton: so this, this would all be preparatory to that. And and hopefully, you know, possibly 804 01:30:53.590 --> 01:30:56.979 John Compton: allows a consensus to become clearer 805 01:30:57.170 --> 01:31:21.250 John Compton: rather than you know, having, you know, some vocal residents who obviously care about the meadow speaking up, and maybe a whole bunch of residents who aren't aware that there is this level of of involvement. Also, you know, weigh in at this meeting, so I hope you can report support this approach. 806 01:31:21.962 --> 01:31:30.749 John Compton: I put that out there. And basically, I'm proposing to the Council that we schedule a special meeting 807 01:31:30.850 --> 01:31:35.010 John Compton: to to address the things. I just I just reviewed. 808 01:31:38.050 --> 01:31:39.940 Peter Nagrod: So, if nobody else is going to speak. 809 01:31:40.150 --> 01:31:42.500 Peter Nagrod: we we did that Walkthrough. 810 01:31:42.540 --> 01:31:44.370 Peter Nagrod: which was 1st of all 811 01:31:44.540 --> 01:31:51.060 Peter Nagrod: there was a commission set up, or subgroup, or whatever you want to call them, to to help advise us. 812 01:31:51.220 --> 01:31:57.839 Peter Nagrod: They did their research. They took to the county. They came up with a very comprehensive and very 813 01:31:57.850 --> 01:32:24.929 Peter Nagrod: for a layman. You can understand what they were saying. That was, that was their report to us, and we did a walkthrough, as because there was some objections to that report. We did. The Walkthrough, which was excellent. County person, was there, and we heard what the county had to say, and then, being on the porch of Deb's house, we really got a lot of the viewpoint of the residents. It seems to me like 814 01:32:25.240 --> 01:32:26.789 Peter Nagrod: the question is. 815 01:32:27.770 --> 01:32:37.300 Peter Nagrod: are we going to cut the trees down, or we're not going to cut the trees down? It's not about the definition of a meadow. It's not about all that other stuff we've been through all that. 816 01:32:37.310 --> 01:32:50.630 Peter Nagrod: and I think that we just have to look at. Where is there's going to be some kind of compromise somewhere. So when we go into this meeting, if we're gonna have it, we should be prepared to deal with that. That I mean, that's the question. 817 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:57.009 Peter Nagrod: Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe somebody in the Council can enlight me and tell me I'm wrong, but it seems to me like that's the question. 818 01:32:57.010 --> 01:32:59.184 marywarfield: Think that's the only question. 819 01:32:59.620 --> 01:33:00.300 Peter Nagrod: I'm good. 820 01:33:00.300 --> 01:33:02.099 marywarfield: You know, everybody agrees. 821 01:33:02.110 --> 01:33:10.062 marywarfield: I'm sorry I'm getting feedback from this. Everybody agrees that the meadow should be restored, and the fact that we've 822 01:33:10.530 --> 01:33:15.489 marywarfield: reestablish communication with the the park, so that they're actually paying attention. 823 01:33:15.490 --> 01:33:16.070 Peter Nagrod: Amen! 824 01:33:16.070 --> 01:33:22.140 marywarfield: Has moved it to a different level. But I think some of the concerns are why 825 01:33:22.950 --> 01:33:28.079 marywarfield: the trees? First, st because there seems to be a lot of approaches that you can do 826 01:33:28.140 --> 01:33:33.059 marywarfield: can restore the meadow without just starting by taking down the trees. 827 01:33:33.220 --> 01:33:38.270 marywarfield: So I think what the concern is that I'm sorry I've 828 01:33:38.540 --> 01:33:42.560 marywarfield: sharing my voice. I'm having a hard time talking. Is that. 829 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:43.150 Peter Nagrod: That is, that. 830 01:33:43.150 --> 01:33:48.679 marywarfield: We don't really have a long term plan. I mean, it's the plan is to restore it. 831 01:33:48.820 --> 01:33:52.129 marywarfield: But just to say, Okay, we're going to take down these trees? 832 01:33:52.200 --> 01:34:04.719 marywarfield: I mean, one of the questions is, is it already a meadow? If there's less than 25% coverage by the trees, then then why do you need to take the trees down? You can restore the meadow with the parks. 833 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:06.900 marywarfield: you know. Given that. So I think 834 01:34:07.020 --> 01:34:09.220 marywarfield: there's some facts that are not clear. 835 01:34:11.750 --> 01:34:14.469 Peter Nagrod: I'm just hearing trees, that's all I'm hearing is trees. 836 01:34:14.470 --> 01:34:14.890 John Compton: So. 837 01:34:14.890 --> 01:34:15.410 Peter Nagrod: Anyway. 838 01:34:15.470 --> 01:34:17.899 John Compton: We have to do this in an ordered way. 839 01:34:17.900 --> 01:34:20.729 Peter Nagrod: Okay, hey? I have my, I'm done with my 2 comments. 840 01:34:20.730 --> 01:34:25.840 John Compton: Mary made her her statement. Chris has his hand up. He's next. 841 01:34:27.330 --> 01:34:38.894 Kriss Grisham: Thank you. Now, I have to figure out how to put my hand down. There we go. Okay. So yeah, I. And I think you know, along with what Mary is saying, and and the feedback that we're getting, and and 842 01:34:40.240 --> 01:34:43.700 Kriss Grisham: you know, from the letters and comments, I think. 843 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:45.020 Kriss Grisham: what's what's 844 01:34:45.030 --> 01:34:47.489 Kriss Grisham: we had these meetings 845 01:34:47.928 --> 01:34:57.490 Kriss Grisham: with Parks and with the Meadows Committee and the presentations? But I think there's still information that's being sought by the town residents. 846 01:34:57.670 --> 01:35:13.530 Kriss Grisham: and and you know, to have this a special town meeting to provide that opportunity. Where everybody like like, you know, the Mayor, saying, like everybody could get on board at the same time and get the same information. 847 01:35:15.060 --> 01:35:20.939 Kriss Grisham: you know it. It would be very helpful, I think. So you know. 848 01:35:21.240 --> 01:35:23.530 Kriss Grisham: are we going to cut trees down? So 849 01:35:24.250 --> 01:35:31.839 Kriss Grisham: you know, I think that's the question is, you know, if we cut them down, and then that's what Mary was saying. Some people are asking if you cut them down. Then what 850 01:35:32.289 --> 01:35:47.799 Kriss Grisham: you know, what's the plan? And and then what would that actually provide to the town? And what would it take away from the town, like like in noise, abatement, or in in habitat for the deer 851 01:35:47.830 --> 01:35:52.160 Kriss Grisham: and all of those things still need to be discussed, I think. And even though we had 852 01:35:52.440 --> 01:35:54.870 Kriss Grisham: a group of people in the meadow 853 01:35:55.830 --> 01:36:03.180 Kriss Grisham: and on on, you know Deb's front porch there. There were still a lot of people that weren't able to attend. So 854 01:36:03.730 --> 01:36:09.719 Kriss Grisham: you know, I think what John is is suggesting is probably the the best approach to give people 855 01:36:10.390 --> 01:36:11.620 Kriss Grisham: a more. 856 01:36:11.870 --> 01:36:13.670 Kriss Grisham: You know global 857 01:36:14.530 --> 01:36:31.750 Kriss Grisham: gathering point where people could could get all of their questions answered, and and possibly by then, maybe more defined plans moving forward to to restore the meadow and to retain the meadow. You know what is what is parks doing, and what is the town 858 01:36:31.780 --> 01:36:33.009 Kriss Grisham: willing to do? 859 01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:36.499 Kriss Grisham: That's my quick. 860 01:36:36.570 --> 01:36:37.650 Kriss Grisham: 10 min 861 01:36:38.010 --> 01:36:38.969 Kriss Grisham: round one. 862 01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:47.769 John Compton: 2 to 10 min. Right? All right. I'd let I'd let the person with the hand up. But I we don't have a council member named Langston. 863 01:36:48.070 --> 01:36:49.289 John Compton: do we? 864 01:36:49.900 --> 01:36:51.040 Peter Nagrod: Yes, we do. 865 01:36:51.420 --> 01:36:53.032 John Compton: You're you're muted. 866 01:36:53.570 --> 01:36:56.129 Eva Langston: Oh, yeah, that's my maiden name. 867 01:36:56.130 --> 01:36:58.149 John Compton: Yeah, well, it shouldn't. Yeah. 868 01:36:58.500 --> 01:37:12.170 Eva Langston: No, just real quick. If we need to have a special meeting about this, I'm I'm totally fine with that to give people all the information. I feel like we've gotten very thorough factual evidence from the Meadow Committee. 869 01:37:12.170 --> 01:37:31.769 Eva Langston: you know. I went into this hearing, cut down trees, and my instinct was and then I listened to what they had to say, and it was very convincing. I have heard from other people that more research needs to be done. So I just want to know what if they have a plan for what the research is that needs to be done? 870 01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:35.989 Eva Langston: They can do the research and bring it to us. They can. 871 01:37:36.110 --> 01:38:01.721 Eva Langston: So I guess I I feel like, you know, if we're going to have this special meeting, I don't want people to say, well, more research needs to be done. I want the. If there's research to be done, then let's go ahead and do it, or have a plan for it, because I feel like I have heard a lot of research from the Meadow Committee that to me was very convincing. But again, I'm willing to hear more. I'm willing to lay all the information out for everyone. So 872 01:38:02.410 --> 01:38:05.749 Eva Langston: if yeah, if we need to have a special meeting to do that. That's that's fine. 873 01:38:06.030 --> 01:38:06.900 Eva Langston: that's all. 874 01:38:08.110 --> 01:38:13.509 John Compton: Yeah, I I neglected to say one of them presenters would be from the Parks department 875 01:38:13.630 --> 01:38:19.390 John Compton: absolutely to explain, because because they are doing meadow management elsewhere. 876 01:38:20.360 --> 01:38:26.090 John Compton: and so you know, everybody who cares to show up will 877 01:38:26.110 --> 01:38:29.239 John Compton: will hear and be able to ask questions 878 01:38:29.570 --> 01:38:32.830 John Compton: concerning the parts department 879 01:38:32.980 --> 01:38:36.059 John Compton: approach to the meadow management. 880 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.179 John Compton: So I think 881 01:38:39.250 --> 01:38:41.119 John Compton: we'll all discover 882 01:38:41.130 --> 01:38:43.580 John Compton: that while 883 01:38:43.700 --> 01:38:45.020 John Compton: a few people 884 01:38:45.490 --> 01:39:04.579 John Compton: went were concerned about the state of the field, and I'm calling it a field for good reason. There's a historical reason I'm not going to go into now. But the state of the field it was not being had not had gotten away from the original intention. 885 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.370 John Compton: and they proposed to go to Parks and discuss it. That's what they did. 886 01:39:08.380 --> 01:39:12.830 John Compton: And Parks came back with this Restoration plan which started with 887 01:39:12.870 --> 01:39:14.450 John Compton: remove trays. 888 01:39:14.480 --> 01:39:17.080 John Compton: and that's caused a lot of concern. 889 01:39:17.180 --> 01:39:20.149 John Compton: But let's hear from Parks, among others 890 01:39:20.270 --> 01:39:32.379 John Compton: who may have a different take on this as to why, what benefit there is to removing the trees, I mean, how does that get us closer to 891 01:39:32.740 --> 01:39:33.830 John Compton: the intent. 892 01:39:33.970 --> 01:39:38.390 John Compton: the intent for the field? So yes, Eva, that was the long answer to 893 01:39:38.400 --> 01:39:47.909 John Compton: we, you know. At least we'll get the Parks opinion, and you're right. If somebody wants to do the research and find, you know, come up with some alternative 894 01:39:48.330 --> 01:39:53.859 John Compton: facts and references. They by all means. This is their will be their opportunity to 895 01:39:53.940 --> 01:39:56.389 John Compton: present it to the council as well as 896 01:39:56.890 --> 01:39:57.890 John Compton: everyone else. 897 01:39:59.190 --> 01:40:03.290 John Compton: Alright! Anybody else want to speak. Chris has had his chance, so if no. 898 01:40:03.290 --> 01:40:04.750 Kriss Grisham: And this is round 2. 899 01:40:06.070 --> 01:40:07.170 John Compton: Yeah, no, you're allowed to. 900 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:09.920 John Compton: I just wanna make sure everybody else's had round one. 901 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:10.570 Kriss Grisham: Okay. 902 01:40:10.570 --> 01:40:13.630 John Compton: Okay, okay, then go ahead. Chris. 903 01:40:14.470 --> 01:40:17.710 Kriss Grisham: Thank you. Sorry. So I 904 01:40:18.846 --> 01:40:36.050 Kriss Grisham: you know. And I think that the follow up. I'm just taking a look at the the memos and letters that are coming in. It's not that, you know, like the Meadows Committee didn't do their research and and due diligence, and and I think they put together a really good package, and you know, but I think 905 01:40:37.690 --> 01:40:41.710 Kriss Grisham: I think what we're hearing right is that the town residents 906 01:40:42.233 --> 01:40:51.346 Kriss Grisham: still have questions that they feel they want answered before. We move forward with with, you know, any kind of 907 01:40:51.850 --> 01:40:57.058 Kriss Grisham: mitigating activities to restore the forest. You know our force to restore the meadow 908 01:40:57.710 --> 01:40:59.250 Kriss Grisham: and and then so 909 01:41:00.010 --> 01:41:03.009 Kriss Grisham: you know, I think that's what we're trying to get answered. And it's not like. 910 01:41:03.130 --> 01:41:05.859 Kriss Grisham: you know, the the residents coming up with 911 01:41:06.030 --> 01:41:10.530 Kriss Grisham: an action plan to to restore. We're we're looking to get 912 01:41:12.270 --> 01:41:17.917 Kriss Grisham: primarily feedback from the from the experts, you know. In this case, it's it's from Parks, 913 01:41:18.770 --> 01:41:33.020 Kriss Grisham: and Meadows. The Meadows Committee is working very closely as we talked with the Parks folks, so it's kind of like a joint effort, and then to be able to answer the questions that the residents still have. You know, I think that's all we're trying to get, and 914 01:41:33.190 --> 01:41:53.429 Kriss Grisham: there's still, if you answer one question, you get 2 or 3 more, so I think you know the mayor's approach to a special meeting to try to get everybody together, all in the same room to get all the answers. I'm not all the answers, but all the questions out that people could could then try to digest is probably a good approach. 915 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:54.330 Kriss Grisham: That's 916 01:41:54.500 --> 01:41:55.779 Kriss Grisham: my number 2. 917 01:41:57.040 --> 01:41:57.870 Kriss Grisham: Thank you. 918 01:41:58.670 --> 01:41:59.900 John Compton: Okay, thank you. 919 01:42:00.850 --> 01:42:05.279 John Compton: Rob, donna, we're not taking public input, we're having a 920 01:42:05.290 --> 01:42:06.616 John Compton: of of 921 01:42:07.330 --> 01:42:11.209 John Compton: a council discussion at this point. If 922 01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:19.730 John Compton: you know, I know, I said, that public appearances on issues on the agenda would be taken at this time. 923 01:42:20.326 --> 01:42:24.360 John Compton: However, I I think the proposal here 924 01:42:24.490 --> 01:42:30.570 John Compton: is that, you know not to. If if we do go ahead and schedule a 925 01:42:30.940 --> 01:42:36.110 John Compton: a special town meeting, then that would be the appropriate time 926 01:42:37.650 --> 01:42:40.730 John Compton: to to express ones 927 01:42:42.710 --> 01:42:45.409 John Compton: point of view on on this question. So. 928 01:42:45.700 --> 01:42:50.820 Donna Shriner: John, I wasn't going to. I wasn't going to express points of view. I was going to ask a question. 929 01:42:52.291 --> 01:42:54.939 John Compton: Yeah. But even that we we. 930 01:42:54.940 --> 01:42:56.220 Donna Shriner: I think it's an important. 931 01:42:56.220 --> 01:42:59.280 John Compton: Actually for you. We had a parliamentary training yesterday. 932 01:43:00.020 --> 01:43:05.589 John Compton: and we were advised. Not that we are are 933 01:43:05.710 --> 01:43:15.669 John Compton: changing our approach to the meetings, but we were advised that that that perhaps involving non council members 934 01:43:15.970 --> 01:43:21.269 John Compton: a. E. In in discussions needed to be in a kind of ordered way. 935 01:43:21.340 --> 01:43:23.939 John Compton: and the current discussion 936 01:43:24.050 --> 01:43:27.160 John Compton: is is one of those so. 937 01:43:27.440 --> 01:43:30.151 Donna Shriner: Well, then, perhaps you need to change your 938 01:43:32.020 --> 01:43:39.020 Donna Shriner: statement at the very beginning that public comments will not be accepted if the item is on the agenda. 939 01:43:40.270 --> 01:43:42.010 John Compton: Well, I think what's happening. 940 01:43:42.010 --> 01:43:44.100 Donna Shriner: Just a thought. I'm gonna mute myself. 941 01:43:44.100 --> 01:43:51.800 John Compton: You're you're absolutely correct, and it would be. But if the Council's choosing not to take up the matter tonight, except to. 942 01:43:52.400 --> 01:44:01.049 John Compton: in other words to defer the actual discussion of of the meadow to another meeting. Then 943 01:44:01.200 --> 01:44:03.390 John Compton: what's the point? I mean. 944 01:44:03.730 --> 01:44:04.580 John Compton: you know 945 01:44:04.730 --> 01:44:06.530 John Compton: you're you're you're. 946 01:44:06.530 --> 01:44:11.480 Donna Shriner: Again, John, I was going to ask a question. I was not going to express an opinion. 947 01:44:12.100 --> 01:44:13.580 Donna Shriner: and and and and. 948 01:44:13.580 --> 01:44:15.359 John Compton: Okay, if you're gonna ask a question. 949 01:44:15.360 --> 01:44:24.290 Donna Shriner: My, my question is simply, How does having, how does how do? How does having a public meeting impact the grant? 950 01:44:25.080 --> 01:44:25.970 Donna Shriner: That's my question. 951 01:44:27.240 --> 01:44:29.230 John Compton: Oh, the grant! We've accepted the grant. 952 01:44:29.470 --> 01:44:30.590 John Compton: That's it. 953 01:44:31.090 --> 01:44:32.409 John Compton: That's your answer. 954 01:44:32.850 --> 01:44:34.660 John Compton: It has no effect on the ground. 955 01:44:39.390 --> 01:44:39.860 John Compton: Okay. 956 01:44:39.860 --> 01:44:40.620 Robert Gilmore: Hours. 957 01:44:40.940 --> 01:44:50.059 Robert Gilmore: Yeah. May think it's a excellent idea that of having a a special meeting on this. 958 01:44:50.780 --> 01:44:51.950 Robert Gilmore: the 959 01:44:52.590 --> 01:44:57.390 Robert Gilmore: I want to share this kind of thought, I guess. For the 960 01:44:57.440 --> 01:45:01.520 Robert Gilmore: the the Council, as well as other residents. 961 01:45:01.540 --> 01:45:03.270 Robert Gilmore: it seems to me that this 962 01:45:03.450 --> 01:45:07.189 Robert Gilmore: isn't really a question of what the experts recommend. 963 01:45:07.270 --> 01:45:30.350 Robert Gilmore: It's simply weighing and deciding kind of competing values. There are some people in town in particular, residents who think keeping trees is more important. And there's some people in town in particular, residents along the meadow who think making it more like a meadow making it more open is more important. 964 01:45:30.847 --> 01:45:33.950 Robert Gilmore: It's not evident that experts are really gonna 965 01:45:34.700 --> 01:45:38.589 Robert Gilmore: help us decide one way or the other. I think at the end of the day 966 01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:40.789 Robert Gilmore: we are going to have to 967 01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:45.800 Robert Gilmore: implement one set of values and priorities over another. 968 01:45:46.297 --> 01:45:49.900 Robert Gilmore: And I don't think that it's going to come down to 969 01:45:50.140 --> 01:45:53.509 Robert Gilmore: sort of an expert conclusion that 970 01:45:53.870 --> 01:45:55.379 Robert Gilmore: gives us the right answer. 971 01:45:55.420 --> 01:46:24.207 Robert Gilmore: Those are like the the the tougher issues that we deal with. Sometimes we have problems where there's like, you know, here's the the right answer, and experts can help us. I don't necessarily see this as that kind of problem which I think is reflected in the fact that you have a lot of smart, thoughtful, caring people or neighbors on both sides of this. You read the letters, and there's a lot of people who feel one way, and there are a lot of people who feel another way. 972 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:34.669 Robert Gilmore: so I think, having a town meeting where everyone can can give their voice. And we're probably gonna make a decision that's gonna make some people happy and some people unhappy. 973 01:46:34.710 --> 01:46:45.210 Robert Gilmore: And I think that that's probably going to be the reality. I think, having a robust and fair process is the best way in democracy to deal with that. This seems like it's going to be one of those kinds of issues. 974 01:46:45.870 --> 01:46:48.269 Robert Gilmore: I, personally haven't made up my mind yet, so I. 975 01:46:50.280 --> 01:46:52.330 Robert Gilmore: Alright, that's all I wanted to share. Mike. 976 01:46:52.330 --> 01:46:53.449 John Compton: Hey, thanks, Rob. 977 01:46:54.900 --> 01:46:57.250 John Compton: alright! Anybody else want to 978 01:46:58.200 --> 01:47:04.939 John Compton: contribute here, or maybe propose formally that we schedule another town council meeting. 979 01:47:04.940 --> 01:47:06.570 Peter Nagrod: My hand is raised. 980 01:47:06.570 --> 01:47:07.470 John Compton: Okay. 981 01:47:07.470 --> 01:47:08.100 Robert Gilmore: I'll second. 982 01:47:08.100 --> 01:47:09.949 Peter Nagrod: I just want to say that, Rob. 983 01:47:10.454 --> 01:47:14.840 Peter Nagrod: Thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to say in the beginning. So thank you. 984 01:47:18.650 --> 01:47:28.160 John Compton: Okay? So if there's no further discussion, the proposal is to schedule a special town council meeting. 985 01:47:28.984 --> 01:47:31.520 John Compton: To address the meadow 986 01:47:32.282 --> 01:47:36.780 John Compton: matter, including some presentations for factual presentations. 987 01:47:37.185 --> 01:47:42.550 John Compton: And then to hear. So it would be a meeting and kind of a hearing. 988 01:47:42.570 --> 01:47:48.009 John Compton: a hearing in the sense that all appear. All comers 989 01:47:48.040 --> 01:47:56.729 John Compton: are welcomed to express their their views on this matter, and that, in fact, some presentations would also 990 01:47:56.750 --> 01:48:00.670 John Compton: be possible for anyone with the 991 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:09.609 John Compton: with more than an individual with more than a few, let's say, residents who were in agreement with that that point of view. So that's what I. 992 01:48:09.610 --> 01:48:09.950 Peter Nagrod: I don't know. 993 01:48:11.136 --> 01:48:15.026 John Compton: Let's go ahead and vote in favor of that, and then we'll try and schedule it. 994 01:48:16.410 --> 01:48:25.960 John Compton: so we'll move to a vote all in favor of scheduling a special town town council meeting. I see 4, 5, and Mary 6. Okay, great. 995 01:48:26.020 --> 01:48:30.549 John Compton: So we we've agreed to do that. Let's can we look at our calendars, please? 996 01:48:30.997 --> 01:48:43.000 John Compton: We don't wanna want too much time. Go by here. On the other hand, we need some time to organize this, and certainly get a parks spokesman to some, some 997 01:48:43.558 --> 01:48:54.711 John Compton: information for this meeting, and probably some others to present some other aspects of this. So I'm kind of looking at my calendar, and I'm going to propose 998 01:48:56.090 --> 01:49:02.400 John Compton: Well, 1st of all, if you want to consider a Saturday, I would propose the 9th of November. 999 01:49:03.370 --> 01:49:03.920 John Compton: Saturday. 1000 01:49:04.618 --> 01:49:08.110 Peter Nagrod: Can't make it. Baby shower. 1001 01:49:09.650 --> 01:49:10.290 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1002 01:49:10.290 --> 01:49:12.179 John Compton: You have a baby shower. 1003 01:49:12.180 --> 01:49:16.390 Peter Nagrod: I have a baby coming along in 2 months, and I have a baby shower. Saturday. 1004 01:49:17.860 --> 01:49:18.240 John Compton: I'm not. 1005 01:49:18.240 --> 01:49:18.640 Peter Nagrod: Yep. 1006 01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:20.512 John Compton: Follow up on that 1007 01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:22.410 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, right. 1008 01:49:22.410 --> 01:49:24.450 John Compton: That opens too many questions here. 1009 01:49:25.061 --> 01:49:30.020 John Compton: Okay. Well, I assume it's out of town, because that's where you're. 1010 01:49:30.020 --> 01:49:33.209 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's in Virginia. But it's yeah. It's 1 o'clock. 1011 01:49:33.740 --> 01:49:39.459 John Compton: Okay? Then we could go to the 16.th We have the the. 1012 01:49:39.460 --> 01:49:41.699 Peter Nagrod: Parliamentary training. Oh, no, we don't. 1013 01:49:41.700 --> 01:49:43.209 John Compton: On the 16th 1014 01:49:43.669 --> 01:49:47.820 John Compton: until noon. That does not mean we couldn't do it in the afternoon. 1015 01:49:49.570 --> 01:49:52.899 Eva Langston: I thought the Dei training got moved to the afternoon. 1016 01:49:54.040 --> 01:49:54.760 John Compton: No. 1017 01:49:54.760 --> 01:50:04.960 Barbara: No they. They asked us if we could possibly move it, and then I sent that message out to you. But then we ended up, not moving it so. 1018 01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:06.349 Eva Langston: Okay, I I did not realize. 1019 01:50:06.350 --> 01:50:07.229 Barbara: Sorry for the confusion. 1020 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:12.359 Barbara: Yeah, this is why we didn't. 1 of the reasons why we didn't want to move it, because it 1021 01:50:12.410 --> 01:50:16.170 Barbara: would be too confusing, but it was already confusing, so. 1022 01:50:16.170 --> 01:50:17.950 John Compton: In my my report that then. 1023 01:50:17.950 --> 01:50:19.059 Eva Langston: Oh, okay. Bye. 1024 01:50:19.060 --> 01:50:20.549 John Compton: I missed that. I'm sorry. 1025 01:50:20.550 --> 01:50:21.280 Barbara: Yeah. 1026 01:50:21.280 --> 01:50:22.909 John Compton: I should have, I should have 1027 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:24.650 John Compton: commented on that. But yeah. 1028 01:50:25.230 --> 01:50:32.550 John Compton: so we could. We could still do it Saturday, I mean, the only reason Saturday is worth considering is because it gets the maximum participation. 1029 01:50:32.750 --> 01:50:33.910 John Compton: Usually. 1030 01:50:34.627 --> 01:50:38.650 John Compton: Otherwise, we're going to an evening which is 1031 01:50:39.110 --> 01:50:39.955 John Compton: okay. 1032 01:50:41.510 --> 01:50:47.599 John Compton: So if we're gonna look at evenings then once again, I would look at the week of november 4.th 1033 01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:54.629 John Compton: and for me any day that week 1034 01:50:54.740 --> 01:50:57.650 John Compton: will be will work. I don't know how the rest of you are. 1035 01:50:57.860 --> 01:50:59.980 Peter Nagrod: The 4th is election day, right. 1036 01:51:01.540 --> 01:51:02.580 Peter Nagrod: And and what we. 1037 01:51:02.580 --> 01:51:04.959 John Compton: Hey? 5th must be Tuesday right. 1038 01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:07.880 Peter Nagrod: You have a Tuesday, we're gonna be either depressed or really happy. 1039 01:51:08.323 --> 01:51:09.210 Eva Langston: So Monday. 1040 01:51:09.210 --> 01:51:10.720 John Compton: The election day, Monday. 1041 01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:14.059 Robert Gilmore: Tuesday is the election day. So 1042 01:51:14.390 --> 01:51:15.800 Robert Gilmore: yeah, Monday's the 4.th 1043 01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:18.050 John Compton: So 6, we're gonna be depressed. 1044 01:51:19.430 --> 01:51:20.290 Peter Nagrod: No, we won't be. 1045 01:51:20.290 --> 01:51:23.539 John Compton: What can I say? Monday? What was the problem, Eva? 1046 01:51:23.540 --> 01:51:25.229 Eva Langston: Monday is Woods Committee. 1047 01:51:25.690 --> 01:51:27.399 John Compton: I can't. We cannot. 1048 01:51:27.430 --> 01:51:32.069 John Compton: If we will consider the committees, we'll be eliminating part of this. 1049 01:51:32.833 --> 01:51:33.306 John Compton: So 1050 01:51:34.293 --> 01:51:42.650 John Compton: I'm not unless I'm not. I'm not targeting the Woods Committee. I'm just saying, you know, there there are like committee meetings often. 1051 01:51:44.040 --> 01:51:48.379 John Compton: if you don't want that, we can look at the next week. The Town Council meeting is the 11th 1052 01:51:49.155 --> 01:51:53.390 John Compton: in a way. I was hoping to get it in before the council meeting, but there's no requirement. 1053 01:51:53.500 --> 01:51:56.270 John Compton: but we could do it. The week of the council meeting as well. 1054 01:51:56.270 --> 01:51:59.500 Peter Nagrod: Why, why can't we do it? Tuesday, the 5, th or the 6, th or the 7.th 1055 01:51:59.870 --> 01:52:01.660 John Compton: On that on election day. 1056 01:52:02.360 --> 01:52:02.960 Peter Nagrod: Wow! What. 1057 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:03.510 marywarfield: Election. 1058 01:52:03.510 --> 01:52:06.240 Peter Nagrod: No, after no, that that week. 1059 01:52:06.410 --> 01:52:11.629 Eva Langston: We can do it on the 4, th and then have. I guess the Woods Committee will just move 1060 01:52:11.840 --> 01:52:13.170 Eva Langston: to a different day. 1061 01:52:13.850 --> 01:52:15.530 John Compton: Probably. Yeah. 1062 01:52:18.730 --> 01:52:21.039 John Compton: Is everybody. Okay? With a 4? th Sorry? 1063 01:52:21.060 --> 01:52:22.929 Peter Nagrod: Is, isn't that election day. 1064 01:52:23.490 --> 01:52:25.020 John Compton: No. Tuesday. 1065 01:52:25.020 --> 01:52:25.549 Eva Langston: Oh, it's. 1066 01:52:25.950 --> 01:52:27.149 Peter Nagrod: I'm sorry. Oh. 1067 01:52:27.710 --> 01:52:28.270 John Compton: Best. 1068 01:52:28.490 --> 01:52:31.499 Barbara: I'm not sure if I can make it the 4th or not. 1069 01:52:31.940 --> 01:52:34.680 Barbara: I could make it the 5th or the 6.th 1070 01:52:36.110 --> 01:52:37.720 marywarfield: I can't make it. The 6.th 1071 01:52:38.480 --> 01:52:40.340 Peter Nagrod: Oh, how about the 7? th 1072 01:52:40.340 --> 01:52:41.110 John Compton: Deborah. 1073 01:52:41.110 --> 01:52:42.990 Eva Langston: I can't do the 7.th 1074 01:52:43.380 --> 01:52:44.260 Peter Nagrod: Well. 1075 01:52:47.530 --> 01:52:50.069 John Compton: Okay, Peter. 1076 01:52:51.500 --> 01:52:58.144 John Compton: Next 9th Sunday. We don't wanna do, because well, we could do the morning, I suppose. 1077 01:52:58.710 --> 01:53:00.219 John Compton: there's Sunday morning. 1078 01:53:00.220 --> 01:53:02.170 Barbara: I can't do. Sunday morning. 1079 01:53:02.630 --> 01:53:05.489 John Compton: So okay, Sunday morning is out. 1080 01:53:05.930 --> 01:53:08.339 John Compton: We could back up to the 3.rd 1081 01:53:09.510 --> 01:53:10.120 John Compton: That's okay. 1082 01:53:10.120 --> 01:53:12.050 Barbara: I'm away. I'm away! 1083 01:53:13.730 --> 01:53:15.090 John Compton: Okay. 1084 01:53:15.320 --> 01:53:15.880 Kriss Grisham: I mean. 1085 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.700 Barbara: Or is this gonna be in person or 1086 01:53:18.940 --> 01:53:20.799 Barbara: on zoom? Because. 1087 01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:21.230 John Compton: How much. 1088 01:53:21.230 --> 01:53:23.380 Barbara: I could still participate. 1089 01:53:24.720 --> 01:53:25.040 John Compton: Yeah. 1090 01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:26.319 Robert Gilmore: Could be a zoom 1091 01:53:26.350 --> 01:53:29.159 Robert Gilmore: special town council meeting, like others we've had. 1092 01:53:29.950 --> 01:53:33.204 John Compton: Okay, I mean, I'm willing to do a zoom either way 1093 01:53:33.600 --> 01:53:34.379 John Compton: you do. 1094 01:53:35.630 --> 01:53:38.359 John Compton: Does that make a difference, Barbara? You could. 1095 01:53:38.360 --> 01:53:46.160 Barbara: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, somehow, I was imagining, you know, in in Mccatherne Hall. But yeah, the 4th would be fine for me, or the 3.rd 1096 01:53:47.470 --> 01:53:55.210 John Compton: All right. How's the 4? th sorry the 4th or the 3, rd are we? What are we talking about? The 4th 3rd is the Sunday. How about the second. 1097 01:53:56.350 --> 01:53:57.080 Peter Nagrod: Yeah. 1098 01:53:57.080 --> 01:53:58.140 Eva Langston: I mean, it depends on. 1099 01:53:58.140 --> 01:53:58.793 marywarfield: Enjoy it. 1100 01:53:59.960 --> 01:54:01.929 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, sounds like, yeah, that's good. 1101 01:54:02.250 --> 01:54:02.820 Barbara: Yeah. 1102 01:54:02.820 --> 01:54:03.959 marywarfield: Seconds. Okay. 1103 01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:05.039 Robert Gilmore: That's it. 1104 01:54:05.440 --> 01:54:06.040 Eva Langston: One, okay. 1105 01:54:06.040 --> 01:54:06.770 John Compton: Good. 1106 01:54:06.770 --> 01:54:09.489 Eva Langston: What time are we? What time are we saying? For the second. 1107 01:54:09.610 --> 01:54:14.110 John Compton: Well, you know, I would provide a couple of hours minimum for this. 1108 01:54:14.220 --> 01:54:18.660 John Compton: So maybe 10, is it or 9, 10. 1109 01:54:18.660 --> 01:54:19.680 Eva Langston: 10 am. 1110 01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:20.400 John Compton: Yeah. 1111 01:54:20.400 --> 01:54:23.729 Eva Langston: Okay, yeah, that's fine. 9 or 10. Yeah, that's fine. 1112 01:54:24.080 --> 01:54:26.900 John Compton: Alright. Let's make it 10 o'clock. Okay. 1113 01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.080 John Compton: on on November second. 1114 01:54:29.120 --> 01:54:36.249 John Compton: And that is, what is that? That's 2, 2 and a half weeks from now. Okay, yeah, that should do it. I hope. 1115 01:54:36.480 --> 01:54:38.440 Kriss Grisham: Is it? Is it virtual or. 1116 01:54:39.020 --> 01:54:41.679 John Compton: Yeah, we just decided to make it virtual. So. 1117 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.160 Kriss Grisham: It is virtual. Yeah, okay. 1118 01:54:43.350 --> 01:54:43.990 Peter Nagrod: Good. 1119 01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:45.020 John Compton: Yeah. 1120 01:54:45.780 --> 01:54:46.610 John Compton: you know. 1121 01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:50.650 John Compton: nobody wants to actually get in the same room with everyone. We had a very nice. 1122 01:54:51.660 --> 01:54:54.640 John Compton: and this yesterday morning we were all in the same room. 1123 01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:56.490 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's great. 1124 01:54:58.550 --> 01:55:04.269 John Compton: Okay, all right, we've got it. The second, thank you. And we'll move along on the agenda. 1125 01:55:05.155 --> 01:55:05.910 John Compton: Then 1126 01:55:06.020 --> 01:55:09.779 John Compton: we are on to more new business. 1127 01:55:10.230 --> 01:55:18.699 John Compton: and this involves a I put it on the agenda, and we approved it on the agenda, so I'm not going to go into why, it's on there. 1128 01:55:19.401 --> 01:55:32.039 John Compton: But we have a request to the Council to direct that the website be that that certain documentation associated 1129 01:55:32.360 --> 01:55:35.320 John Compton: the the resolution 2023 1130 01:55:35.330 --> 01:55:37.379 John Compton: on the website be removed. 1131 01:55:38.790 --> 01:55:52.379 John Compton: That that's all I'm going to say. On this. I leave it to the Council to put forth a either some discussion or a motion associated with this request. 1132 01:55:53.840 --> 01:56:01.499 Barbara: So what we learned in the parliamentary procedure training yesterday is that there is no discussion without a motion. So 1133 01:56:01.700 --> 01:56:03.649 Barbara: that's something to keep in mind. 1134 01:56:04.710 --> 01:56:07.179 John Compton: By putting it on the agenda, we 1135 01:56:07.820 --> 01:56:09.370 John Compton: implicitly. 1136 01:56:12.160 --> 01:56:16.469 John Compton: we implicitly adopted that there was a motion to 1137 01:56:16.950 --> 01:56:18.910 John Compton: one way or the other, so 1138 01:56:19.660 --> 01:56:25.980 John Compton: probably they you would assume to to approve. It's a motion, not a not a 1139 01:56:26.100 --> 01:56:26.930 John Compton: vote. 1140 01:56:27.390 --> 01:56:28.470 John Compton: But 1141 01:56:28.970 --> 01:56:33.990 John Compton: let's go ahead. And Barbara's right. Is there some discussion on this? 1142 01:56:34.431 --> 01:56:37.090 John Compton: Where do? Where does the Council wish to go on? It. 1143 01:56:37.090 --> 01:56:40.339 Peter Nagrod: It's not. It's not clear what we're discussing to me. 1144 01:56:42.280 --> 01:56:46.609 John Compton: Okay, well, the the letter which I can put up. But basically. 1145 01:56:46.610 --> 01:56:50.430 Peter Nagrod: Well, I've read. I've read it. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Is, has everybody read it? 1146 01:56:50.950 --> 01:56:52.929 Peter Nagrod: It's specific. Yeah, yeah. 1147 01:56:52.930 --> 01:56:56.750 John Compton: Was to remove the power, a Powerpoint presentation 1148 01:56:57.330 --> 01:57:00.550 John Compton: that is referred to in the resolution 1149 01:57:00.850 --> 01:57:09.150 John Compton: supporting material at the bottom of the resolution. We have a note that there is supporting documentation 1150 01:57:09.200 --> 01:57:10.430 John Compton: available 1151 01:57:10.460 --> 01:57:12.769 John Compton: for anyone who cares to look at it. 1152 01:57:13.860 --> 01:57:15.660 John Compton: That is up on the web. 1153 01:57:16.050 --> 01:57:22.690 John Compton: so that when one goes to see that resolution one can access that supporting documentation. 1154 01:57:23.700 --> 01:57:25.399 Peter Nagrod: So do we need to make a motion 1155 01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:30.581 Peter Nagrod: to to? Or should we make a motion to discuss this, or can we just discuss it? Barbara? 1156 01:57:30.860 --> 01:57:34.769 Barbara: So we need to have a motion if we're going to discuss it. 1157 01:57:35.140 --> 01:57:38.290 Peter Nagrod: Okay, okay, so can I make a motion to discuss it? 1158 01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:39.160 Peter Nagrod: No. 1159 01:57:39.160 --> 01:57:41.600 Barbara: You don't want to discuss something. 1160 01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:44.970 Eva Langston: Can make a motion either to approve or deny the request. 1161 01:57:44.970 --> 01:57:52.379 John Compton: Or or or table, or per our table. Wasn't that? No, not def indefinitely postpone. 1162 01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:53.669 Eva Langston: Or you can. Yeah. 1163 01:57:53.670 --> 01:57:56.990 Barbara: That's yeah. That's that's the the coward's way out. 1164 01:57:56.990 --> 01:57:57.630 John Compton: Yeah. 1165 01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:01.829 Peter Nagrod: So we're learning. So I have to make a motion to 1166 01:58:01.890 --> 01:58:05.580 Peter Nagrod: approve or deny it. Why can't I just make a motion 1167 01:58:05.650 --> 01:58:07.170 Peter Nagrod: for us to discuss it? 1168 01:58:07.340 --> 01:58:08.742 Eva Langston: Cause. That's not. 1169 01:58:09.210 --> 01:58:13.230 Barbara: We were gonna discuss about whether we should discuss it, and that makes no sense. 1170 01:58:13.230 --> 01:58:17.380 Peter Nagrod: Alright, I'll make a motion kind of. I'd like to make a motion to approve the request. 1171 01:58:19.290 --> 01:58:20.350 John Compton: Okay. 1172 01:58:20.816 --> 01:58:24.609 John Compton: is there a second? Just formality doesn't need to be a second. 1173 01:58:26.320 --> 01:58:27.779 John Compton: There's no second. But. 1174 01:58:28.940 --> 01:58:33.290 Barbara: Well, if there's no, I think if we're gonna discuss it, there should be a second. 1175 01:58:33.750 --> 01:58:34.199 Robert Gilmore: I thought that. 1176 01:58:34.790 --> 01:58:36.360 Robert Gilmore: Second, for every motion. 1177 01:58:37.050 --> 01:58:37.660 Peter Nagrod: No. 1178 01:58:37.660 --> 01:58:39.626 John Compton: Apparently not 1179 01:58:40.610 --> 01:58:47.180 Barbara: Right. What? What the what the Parliamentarian said is. Well, if you all just dive in and start talking about it. But 1180 01:58:47.290 --> 01:58:49.609 Barbara: I kind I don't think that's 1181 01:58:49.830 --> 01:58:54.719 Barbara: the way we should be doing things. I think we should follow the rules, and the rule is 1182 01:58:54.810 --> 01:58:56.020 Barbara: to second it. 1183 01:58:57.660 --> 01:59:02.540 John Compton: Alright. So Barbara is, is basically saying, is that for one council member 1184 01:59:02.660 --> 01:59:04.840 John Compton: to make a motion 1185 01:59:05.090 --> 01:59:10.189 John Compton: and commit the rest of the Council to a discussion is not sufficient. 1186 01:59:10.590 --> 01:59:14.870 John Compton: The second, by the way, does not have to support them. The motion 1187 01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:19.580 John Compton: at all. They simply have to agree. They're basically agreeing 1188 01:59:19.700 --> 01:59:22.670 John Compton: to entertain the motion. 1189 01:59:24.130 --> 01:59:26.709 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I'm not supporting the motion. I just would like. 1190 01:59:26.710 --> 01:59:27.500 John Compton: That's my own. 1191 01:59:27.500 --> 01:59:28.400 Peter Nagrod: Yes, yes. 1192 01:59:28.400 --> 01:59:29.100 John Compton: Yeah. 1193 01:59:29.100 --> 01:59:31.809 marywarfield: Okay, in that. In that case I'll second it. 1194 01:59:32.180 --> 01:59:37.269 John Compton: Yeah. So you know, that does not commit you to voting for the motion. But in any way. 1195 01:59:37.680 --> 01:59:38.989 Peter Nagrod: Right? Oh, it's okay. 1196 01:59:38.990 --> 01:59:41.854 John Compton: Seconded to up to 1197 01:59:42.780 --> 01:59:43.920 John Compton: Remove 1198 01:59:44.250 --> 01:59:49.700 John Compton: the documentation that was objected to in this letter. 1199 01:59:52.150 --> 01:59:55.620 John Compton: Does anyone wish to speak to the motion? 1200 01:59:55.850 --> 01:59:56.750 John Compton: Mary. 1201 01:59:57.680 --> 01:59:59.659 marywarfield: I'm I'm not sure what 1202 02:00:00.060 --> 02:00:10.929 marywarfield: change that. Why, what? What? Why, that where this request is coming from, what? What has changed since I wasn't on the Council when we adopted that, but I assume that there was discussion before 1203 02:00:11.070 --> 02:00:14.899 marywarfield: that was put together, so I don't know what circumstances that change that 1204 02:00:15.110 --> 02:00:17.150 marywarfield: are leading to this request. 1205 02:00:18.370 --> 02:00:19.430 marywarfield: Did anybody. 1206 02:00:23.530 --> 02:00:26.120 John Compton: I have. No, I have nothing to contribute to that. 1207 02:00:28.620 --> 02:00:29.919 marywarfield: I mean, it seems to me if there's no. 1208 02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:32.679 John Compton: There are no changes, but there are no circumstances. 1209 02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:39.300 marywarfield: So in that case I don't see why the Council would want to reverse a resolution that we voted. That 1210 02:00:39.390 --> 02:00:42.269 marywarfield: was voted on, you know, a year ago. 1211 02:00:44.870 --> 02:00:45.750 John Compton: Okay. 1212 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:46.730 John Compton: Barbara. 1213 02:00:47.490 --> 02:00:58.609 Barbara: We? I don't think we can go through resolutions and decide. Well, we'll post this, but not post that. Put the Powerpoint up, not put the Powerpoint up, we need to have 1214 02:00:58.780 --> 02:01:03.779 Barbara: policies that apply across the board. 1215 02:01:03.940 --> 02:01:05.170 Barbara: So 1216 02:01:05.650 --> 02:01:15.289 Barbara: whatever our policy is, and I think by habit our policy has been, you know, something happens, it gets posted and it stays there. 1217 02:01:15.350 --> 02:01:16.600 Barbara: and 1218 02:01:17.060 --> 02:01:25.740 Barbara: I don't see making an exception on a case by case basis for this resolution or that resolution, or that 1219 02:01:26.030 --> 02:01:27.790 Barbara: piece of information. 1220 02:01:31.610 --> 02:01:33.100 John Compton: Okay, thank you. 1221 02:01:33.340 --> 02:01:35.679 John Compton: Barbara. Anyone else have any. 1222 02:01:36.630 --> 02:01:37.260 marywarfield: Okay. 1223 02:01:37.260 --> 02:01:38.920 John Compton: Comments, to to the. 1224 02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:43.540 Peter Nagrod: Would. No, just just to get to agree with Barbara and Mary. 1225 02:01:44.067 --> 02:01:50.820 Peter Nagrod: Christine's got an an overwhelming job. And she mean she's amazing at what she does. But there's so much information 1226 02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:57.470 Peter Nagrod: in the town, you know, knowledge management. That's what she's doing, and we don't have 1227 02:01:57.650 --> 02:01:59.280 Peter Nagrod: a lot of oversight 1228 02:01:59.310 --> 02:02:10.340 Peter Nagrod: on what goes on on there. And I think you know we that came up, I think before, and we kind of agreed to do what we're doing right now. So it seems to me, though, like we play, we place a lot of 1229 02:02:11.350 --> 02:02:17.919 Peter Nagrod: trust with Christine, but I think she does a good job, and I don't know if we wanna you know. 1230 02:02:17.940 --> 02:02:19.120 Peter Nagrod: if we 1231 02:02:19.320 --> 02:02:24.720 Peter Nagrod: if we wanna you know, look at this and come up with more rules and regulations, or what. 1232 02:02:26.150 --> 02:02:28.179 John Compton: Well, not not to. 1233 02:02:28.480 --> 02:02:34.440 John Compton: not not to be critical about what you just said. This does not involve Christine. 1234 02:02:35.120 --> 02:02:40.770 John Compton: What's on the website is what Barbara said. We put up the resolution which we. 1235 02:02:40.770 --> 02:02:41.350 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1236 02:02:41.350 --> 02:02:51.050 John Compton: Solutions are on the website and it it notes. There is supporting material. So the supporting material is available on the website. 1237 02:02:51.670 --> 02:02:52.979 Peter Nagrod: But when you say, Yeah. 1238 02:02:52.980 --> 02:02:56.009 John Compton: Team. We're doing that with every resolution. 1239 02:02:57.040 --> 02:02:59.640 Peter Nagrod: So that Powerpoint, yeah, was that Powerpoint. 1240 02:02:59.640 --> 02:03:24.479 marywarfield: There is also the the Powerpoint for the discussion on the other side. So that information, I think Paula pointed this out in her letter is available on the website, so people can read both of them and and make their own decision. But I think the fact that their references were put on the original resolution, and it was voted on and passed. I don't, unless there's something changed. I don't see why we would want to reverse it. 1241 02:03:28.200 --> 02:03:29.830 John Compton: Is there any further discussion 1242 02:03:29.850 --> 02:03:30.969 John Compton: on the motion? 1243 02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:33.900 John Compton: Hearing none. 1244 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:36.500 John Compton: we'll move to a vote. The 1245 02:03:36.730 --> 02:03:40.659 John Compton: the the motion is to remove 1246 02:03:40.810 --> 02:03:45.380 John Compton: the Powerpoint presentation and other documentation. I've forgotten whether there anything else. 1247 02:03:46.620 --> 02:03:48.310 John Compton: In in the request. 1248 02:03:49.081 --> 02:03:53.150 John Compton: All in favor of doing so. 1249 02:03:54.750 --> 02:03:56.270 John Compton: All opposed. 1250 02:03:58.090 --> 02:04:03.479 John Compton: All right. I see. 4, 5. And who am I missing. Chris, did you vote. 1251 02:04:04.257 --> 02:04:05.929 Kriss Grisham: I'm gonna abstain. 1252 02:04:06.060 --> 02:04:08.009 Kriss Grisham: This is before my time, and I'm 1253 02:04:08.020 --> 02:04:10.249 Kriss Grisham: still trying to figure out what's what. So. 1254 02:04:10.250 --> 02:04:15.359 John Compton: So we heard absent. So that's 5 votes against 1255 02:04:15.410 --> 02:04:17.350 John Compton: and no votes for. 1256 02:04:17.530 --> 02:04:22.460 John Compton: thank you. With, well, with an extension. We've we've been recording extensions. 1257 02:04:23.040 --> 02:04:25.980 John Compton: and Chris gave his reasons for abstaining. 1258 02:04:26.010 --> 02:04:28.399 John Compton: Okay, matter is 1259 02:04:28.420 --> 02:04:31.790 John Compton: at at an end, and that takes us 1260 02:04:32.150 --> 02:04:34.430 John Compton: to any other new business. 1261 02:04:35.860 --> 02:04:36.809 John Compton: We didn't go. 1262 02:04:36.810 --> 02:04:38.830 Peter Nagrod: One thing, John. 1263 02:04:39.245 --> 02:04:45.729 Peter Nagrod: It says in the minutes that I I was assigned to address speed humps, slash bumps 1264 02:04:45.970 --> 02:04:47.160 Peter Nagrod: in town. 1265 02:04:47.280 --> 02:04:48.640 Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I'm just reporting. 1266 02:04:48.640 --> 02:04:50.840 John Compton: Volunteered to do it. 1267 02:04:50.840 --> 02:04:55.449 Peter Nagrod: Well, I am. I am not on volunteering, but I will say that I've I've 1268 02:04:55.510 --> 02:05:07.250 Peter Nagrod: talked to a lot of people. I've talked to the planning commission. We discussed it, and it's it's just way beyond me, as far as everybody has an opinion on it. 1269 02:05:07.310 --> 02:05:10.215 Peter Nagrod: And so I'm not sure if 1270 02:05:10.930 --> 02:05:13.649 Peter Nagrod: I'm going to put this on. I'm going to table this indefinitely 1271 02:05:15.700 --> 02:05:18.149 Peter Nagrod: other approach, unless you want to approach it differently. 1272 02:05:18.580 --> 02:05:22.809 Robert Gilmore: I'm I'm happy to feed it over, Peter. If you'd like to. 1273 02:05:23.510 --> 02:05:31.529 John Compton: All right. Rob has volunteered to be lead on speed hunt proposals. 1274 02:05:31.530 --> 02:05:32.430 Peter Nagrod: Okay. 1275 02:05:32.430 --> 02:05:39.369 John Compton: That was basically what you had had said you would do. But Rob's going to do it. You're you're you're off the hook 1276 02:05:39.730 --> 02:05:40.850 John Compton: right? 1277 02:05:41.380 --> 02:05:47.799 John Compton: Alright, Rob, that's great, thank you. But but you know, as an aside, Peter. 1278 02:05:47.950 --> 02:05:51.209 John Compton: from years of dealing with this, it's 1279 02:05:51.390 --> 02:05:54.059 John Compton: you're you're right. It's not as 1280 02:05:54.370 --> 02:05:57.230 John Compton: as simple a matter as it would seem. 1281 02:05:57.990 --> 02:05:58.820 John Compton: Okay. 1282 02:05:58.820 --> 02:06:01.120 Robert Gilmore: I think I'm already the Roads committee person. 1283 02:06:01.120 --> 02:06:01.480 John Compton: Too often. 1284 02:06:02.900 --> 02:06:06.400 Robert Gilmore: It'll give me something to map it and submit a. 1285 02:06:06.400 --> 02:06:10.460 John Compton: Yes, and let's find out. Rob rob is has has has 1286 02:06:11.570 --> 02:06:12.230 John Compton: has got. 1287 02:06:12.230 --> 02:06:13.969 Robert Gilmore: I don't actually have things. 1288 02:06:13.970 --> 02:06:21.360 John Compton: They were almost doing almost nothing, because racing has disappeared with those liaison. 1289 02:06:22.080 --> 02:06:24.790 John Compton: Oh, really, seriously, thanks for stepping up. 1290 02:06:24.790 --> 02:06:29.669 Robert Gilmore: No, I'm I'm happy. It makes sense that that's my committee or or responsibility. So. 1291 02:06:30.325 --> 02:06:30.980 Peter Nagrod: Right. 1292 02:06:32.300 --> 02:06:38.009 John Compton: Okay, then. So Town Council reports as well any other 1293 02:06:38.810 --> 02:06:41.410 John Compton: business that anyone wants to raise. 1294 02:06:42.630 --> 02:06:50.959 John Compton: Okay? If not, let's move on to the regular business of the Town Council reports. I didn't find a lot of notes, so I have 2 things. 1295 02:06:51.414 --> 02:06:55.409 John Compton: It is the fall planting season for trees. The 1296 02:06:55.500 --> 02:07:11.329 John Compton: the Barbara has reported the F. And B. Forestry and beautification has an ambitious, relatively ambitious plan to plant 13 trees and 9 bushes in various areas around town. 1297 02:07:11.490 --> 02:07:22.419 John Compton: They have the proposed locations. Those are available. But they I don't. I'm not sure they've approved, but I think they may have approved what they plan to do. 1298 02:07:22.560 --> 02:07:30.810 John Compton: So you can you? It's not in the report. But if you are interested, I have no doubt that Georgette, who's the chair. 1299 02:07:30.930 --> 02:07:35.000 John Compton: will provide their map and and locations. 1300 02:07:36.460 --> 02:07:37.179 John Compton: I can. 1301 02:07:37.180 --> 02:07:39.830 Georgette Cole: Send that to anybody who asks for it. 1302 02:07:39.830 --> 02:07:40.380 John Compton: Yes. 1303 02:07:40.380 --> 02:07:41.930 Georgette Cole: And we have stakes out. 1304 02:07:43.060 --> 02:07:46.410 John Compton: Every year at both spring and fall. 1305 02:07:47.120 --> 02:07:50.290 John Compton: lest anybody have forgotten which they 1306 02:07:51.010 --> 02:07:52.280 John Compton: hopefully haven't. 1307 02:07:52.320 --> 02:07:58.490 John Compton: They always ask residents for suggestions as to where planting of new trees. 1308 02:07:58.590 --> 02:07:59.380 John Compton: or 1309 02:07:59.630 --> 02:08:01.379 John Compton: whatever new plannings 1310 02:08:01.440 --> 02:08:07.670 John Compton: where they ask for suggestions. So everyone should feel free. If they see something or they feel 1311 02:08:07.940 --> 02:08:10.540 John Compton: something would be good they want to hear about. 1312 02:08:12.710 --> 02:08:22.499 John Compton: Alright. Anybody else have anything to say about their report this is the time. Otherwise we'll vote to. We'll to post the reports. 1313 02:08:25.540 --> 02:08:30.349 John Compton: Okay, then let's move to a vote. On posting the town council reports 1314 02:08:30.480 --> 02:08:33.030 John Compton: as they were written, all in favor 1315 02:08:35.170 --> 02:08:36.480 John Compton: any post. 1316 02:08:37.240 --> 02:08:38.820 John Compton: Alright, we will 1317 02:08:39.520 --> 02:08:41.869 John Compton: pass them along to Christine. To put up 1318 02:08:41.950 --> 02:08:56.019 John Compton: alright brings us to approval of the minutes I I neglected to show you that that actually was highlighted in yellow that, and I indicated it might be deferred, because, frankly, I haven't had time to 1319 02:08:56.760 --> 02:09:05.900 John Compton: to fully complete the September 9th minutes. I will do so absolutely for sure, by the November meeting. 1320 02:09:06.361 --> 02:09:11.179 John Compton: So we have no minutes, and I owe there are several other minutes that are 1321 02:09:11.330 --> 02:09:15.870 John Compton: outstanding. They are these the the special meetings 1322 02:09:15.970 --> 02:09:22.633 John Compton: where we where we close the meeting to talk to the the 2 bidders. 1323 02:09:23.130 --> 02:09:33.280 John Compton: And those meetings had an open component because you have to. You can't close a meeting without an open meeting. So those minutes also will be 1324 02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:36.335 John Compton: be up for approval. 1325 02:09:37.590 --> 02:09:38.630 John Compton: in November. 1326 02:09:40.450 --> 02:09:47.259 John Compton: Speaking of the November, the meeting, it will be on November 11, th at 7 30, and be virtual. 1327 02:09:48.540 --> 02:09:56.830 John Compton: Okay, well, before we adjourn, does anybody have any last words, since we're actually almost exactly on the 1328 02:09:57.720 --> 02:10:00.699 John Compton: potential schedule that was on the minutes 1329 02:10:01.000 --> 02:10:02.469 John Compton: on the agenda. 1330 02:10:03.540 --> 02:10:04.440 John Compton: Anyone. 1331 02:10:04.440 --> 02:10:11.520 Barbara: I just want to say congratulations to everybody for our efforts to follow the rules of parliamentary procedure. 1332 02:10:11.520 --> 02:10:12.991 marywarfield: Yeah, way. To go. 1333 02:10:13.360 --> 02:10:15.090 Peter Nagrod: It was painful. 1334 02:10:16.120 --> 02:10:32.069 Robert Gilmore: I. So Donna donna brought a good point up, though, that we about the the public hearing. If we're not gonna have the the old style, free for all, where everyone can speak on topics on the agenda, then we should probably 1335 02:10:32.640 --> 02:10:35.010 Robert Gilmore: revisit how we handle public hearings. 1336 02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:37.799 Robert Gilmore: The the public hearing portion of me. 1337 02:10:38.950 --> 02:10:45.140 John Compton: You're you're right. Rob you! I'm fairly certain 1338 02:10:45.460 --> 02:10:46.210 John Compton: that 1339 02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:50.379 John Compton: Some of the counselors present. 1340 02:10:50.470 --> 02:10:54.120 John Compton: It was. It was urged, that we let's turn it around 1341 02:10:54.170 --> 02:10:57.129 John Compton: the the expert parliamentarian. 1342 02:10:57.190 --> 02:10:59.830 John Compton: Among the many things he 1343 02:11:00.210 --> 02:11:10.359 John Compton: he presented and explained, he, he urged the the Count. The Council has every right to specify its own procedures. 1344 02:11:11.150 --> 02:11:16.509 John Compton: and it's how the meetings are handled. But he did recommend that that be put in writing. 1345 02:11:16.990 --> 02:11:18.749 John Compton: which, of course, it's not 1346 02:11:19.470 --> 02:11:23.770 John Compton: so. I think there was an interest in specifying, for example. 1347 02:11:24.150 --> 02:11:25.650 John Compton: what the agenda. 1348 02:11:26.040 --> 02:11:35.999 John Compton: what what the order of the agenda should be, how would you handle public appearances? Which is the point here, and and other things. So I think there's some interest in 1349 02:11:36.130 --> 02:11:39.460 John Compton: in creating a guideline for that 1350 02:11:39.530 --> 02:11:45.110 John Compton: which the Council will can adopt, and everybody can see, and we can all have. 1351 02:11:45.180 --> 02:11:47.639 John Compton: you know, a little bit more structure. 1352 02:11:47.850 --> 02:11:51.240 John Compton: maybe not more structure, but at least 1353 02:11:52.170 --> 02:11:55.570 John Compton: open openly available structure 1354 02:11:55.720 --> 02:11:57.130 John Compton: to to work with. 1355 02:11:59.050 --> 02:12:07.643 John Compton: So yeah, I should apologize to Donna. You just happened to be the person who wanted to say something. You had a very good. You had a good question. 1356 02:12:08.120 --> 02:12:15.288 John Compton: of course. Which I would have happily answered offline at any moment, or in an email. 1357 02:12:15.790 --> 02:12:21.739 John Compton: about that, Grant, since I have. The mayor is responsible for all of the financial 1358 02:12:22.070 --> 02:12:24.020 John Compton: is 1359 02:12:25.200 --> 02:12:29.224 John Compton: agreements that the town engages in. So 1360 02:12:32.200 --> 02:12:38.169 John Compton: so anyway, I'm I'm glad you got the question out. But we're going to want to encourage 1361 02:12:38.210 --> 02:12:41.569 John Compton: the residents if they have questions, or they have 1362 02:12:42.020 --> 02:12:44.899 John Compton: that they make every effort to 1363 02:12:45.090 --> 02:12:47.009 John Compton: talk to the Council 1364 02:12:47.530 --> 02:13:09.549 John Compton: individually. Talk to me, raise it because you know everybody's pretty reasonable people. We don't want to. We we want to address the concerns, and sometimes we can address it without it being at a council meeting, and other times. It may be something that should be brought to the council, but if you. 1365 02:13:10.490 --> 02:13:20.809 John Compton: to the extent we can handle that prior to the meeting, the better the meetings will be managed. I think the happier everyone will be, and that that's 1 of the 1366 02:13:20.860 --> 02:13:22.580 John Compton: messages we got. 1367 02:13:23.030 --> 02:13:27.130 John Compton: or at least the conclusions I got from what we discussed yesterday. 1368 02:13:27.270 --> 02:13:28.030 John Compton: English. 1369 02:13:28.030 --> 02:13:33.659 marywarfield: I'm wondering if we could make more use of the chat for something like that where Donna had, you know, just one question that. 1370 02:13:33.660 --> 02:13:34.170 John Compton: Literally. 1371 02:13:34.170 --> 02:13:40.940 marywarfield: Rather than you know, interrupting the discussion. You know, could put it in, and if it's relevant, could be answered in that way. 1372 02:13:40.940 --> 02:13:41.370 John Compton: Right. 1373 02:13:41.370 --> 02:13:43.660 Barbara: No, I'm sorry. 1374 02:13:44.790 --> 02:13:48.640 John Compton: We've limited the chat. You can only chat with the host 1375 02:13:48.770 --> 02:13:53.039 John Compton: at at this point. There's no, there's no chat between participants 1376 02:13:53.230 --> 02:13:55.659 John Compton: at the meeting, but it's but. 1377 02:13:55.660 --> 02:13:56.499 marywarfield: With you. I mean, if. 1378 02:13:56.930 --> 02:14:05.530 John Compton: Either to answer the question or to pass it along to whoever can answer the question, or should you're right? 1379 02:14:05.780 --> 02:14:14.979 John Compton: Yeah. But see, that's exactly one of the things that you know. You know, residents are used to being able to weigh in on 1380 02:14:15.020 --> 02:14:17.309 John Compton: our issues, and if we want to. 1381 02:14:17.724 --> 02:14:31.259 John Compton: you know, make things move more smoothly, and still allow that we need to communicate just what you've said, you know. Ask your question. That's not. We're not trying to avoid the questions. We're trying to make sure the meeting stays on track. 1382 02:14:31.850 --> 02:14:32.359 John Compton: That's all. 1383 02:14:32.360 --> 02:14:35.119 marywarfield: You just have to be the marine sergeant, you know. 1384 02:14:35.120 --> 02:14:36.400 John Compton: Oh, well, I know that 1385 02:14:37.190 --> 02:14:40.033 John Compton: at some point it always boils down to that. 1386 02:14:42.860 --> 02:14:48.880 John Compton: Well, anyway, that that's great. We did get through. Thank you everybody. I assume everybody's ready to adjourn, and 1387 02:14:49.330 --> 02:14:54.160 John Compton: next meeting is going to be November second. The Special Town Council Meeting 1388 02:14:54.370 --> 02:14:57.310 John Compton: Virtual at 10 o'clock 1389 02:14:57.830 --> 02:14:59.149 John Compton: on November second. 1390 02:14:59.640 --> 02:15:03.529 marywarfield: I assume that's depending whether the Parks person can make it. Then. 1391 02:15:03.770 --> 02:15:11.480 John Compton: Georgette did text me saying, maybe we need 2 dates, because Ryan might not be. 1392 02:15:11.480 --> 02:15:12.290 marywarfield: Right. 1393 02:15:13.533 --> 02:15:18.979 John Compton: And she's right. Maybe we should look for a fallback date 1394 02:15:19.190 --> 02:15:23.510 John Compton: if if the second somehow doesn't work. 1395 02:15:23.700 --> 02:15:31.339 John Compton: it doesn't have to be Ryan. It can be anybody from his his office, but you know it would be better if it's the point person that Parks. 1396 02:15:32.150 --> 02:15:33.230 John Compton: Doing this? 1397 02:15:34.110 --> 02:15:43.309 John Compton: and so in addition to the second, let's go back to looking at our calendar, can we? Can we look at the 3rd in my calendar is totally open. 1398 02:15:43.870 --> 02:15:45.099 marywarfield: Third's okay with me. 1399 02:15:45.790 --> 02:15:46.690 Robert Gilmore: Likewise. 1400 02:15:47.110 --> 02:15:48.650 John Compton: Not only that 1401 02:15:48.950 --> 02:15:51.830 John Compton: the daylight savings time kicks 1402 02:15:52.550 --> 02:15:58.899 John Compton: is kicked out on that Saturday night, so we're going to have gained an hour. 1403 02:15:59.470 --> 02:16:00.170 marywarfield: Yeah, I. 1404 02:16:00.170 --> 02:16:02.070 Barbara: I can't do it on 1405 02:16:02.740 --> 02:16:04.490 Barbara: That's Saturday. 1406 02:16:04.490 --> 02:16:05.800 John Compton: That's Sunday. 1407 02:16:05.800 --> 02:16:07.859 Barbara: Certainly I mean the. 1408 02:16:08.570 --> 02:16:09.330 John Compton: 3, rd 1409 02:16:10.950 --> 02:16:11.510 John Compton: okay. 1410 02:16:11.510 --> 02:16:13.650 Barbara: The 3.rd I'm sorry 1411 02:16:13.820 --> 02:16:15.549 Barbara: I can't do it. On the 3.rd 1412 02:16:16.710 --> 02:16:17.780 John Compton: You can. 1413 02:16:17.780 --> 02:16:18.630 Barbara: I can. 1414 02:16:19.010 --> 02:16:19.670 John Compton: Okay. 1415 02:16:19.930 --> 02:16:25.390 Eva Langston: Could we do it on the? If so, this is our second choice, right? Could we do it at 9 Am. 1416 02:16:25.500 --> 02:16:26.520 Eva Langston: Yes. 1417 02:16:26.520 --> 02:16:27.420 John Compton: Of course. Okay. 1418 02:16:27.810 --> 02:16:32.200 Eva Langston: Okay, cause Viola's birthday parties in the afternoon, but I could do it in the morning if 1419 02:16:32.379 --> 02:16:33.650 Eva Langston: we're gonna be done. 1420 02:16:33.830 --> 02:16:36.099 Kriss Grisham: Yeah, I was also thinking, football games. 1421 02:16:36.549 --> 02:16:38.399 Peter Nagrod: Is that on Sunday. 1422 02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:42.179 John Compton: Look. It's a virtual meeting press. You can always. 1423 02:16:42.180 --> 02:16:44.870 marywarfield: That's right. It will be. 1424 02:16:44.870 --> 02:16:46.100 John Compton: Now that you're 1425 02:16:47.959 --> 02:16:57.569 John Compton: alright good, the 3rd that'll be the backup. 9 o'clock. Got it. I'll give Ryan hopefully. That weekend isn't a total bus, but but we'll find out quickly. All right. 1426 02:16:57.759 --> 02:16:58.619 John Compton: Thanks. 1427 02:16:59.020 --> 02:16:59.670 Eva Langston: All right. Nice. 1428 02:16:59.670 --> 02:17:00.980 John Compton: Yeah. Thanks. Everybody. 1429 02:17:00.980 --> 02:17:02.200 Barbara: Alright! Good night! 1430 02:17:02.200 --> 02:17:03.170 Peter Nagrod: Bye, bye. 1431 02:17:03.170 --> 02:17:03.940 Robert Gilmore: At all.